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There will be some sort of misconduct case if he ends up getting convicted. This judge sure seems biased.
I wasn't going to say it and I don't know if it will be grounds for appeal but I've been getting the same impression. We have to remember that we're seeing things through the prism of the media and my own experience tells me that the media never create a completely accurate impression. We only get a distorted view. But having said that I keep thinking that through that prism the judge sure looks to me to be biased against the defense.
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ASUG8 wrote:I remember when they had to use Peter Frampton, coupons for free penny loafers, mall security, etc. to control all the white people after the OJ Simpson trial after the prosecution bungled the case. Neighborhood watch groups organized, massive gambling on how long before he's killed......

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In the meantime, in Chicago, the blacks go about their business of killing blacks. :lol:

'“Every single day we wake up in the city of Chicago, some child, some young adult, some African-American male has been murdered,” state Rep. Monique Davis said Thursday. “This is not acceptable.'"

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Pssssst...Monique. It is embarrassing that you are identifying the victims as black...as though white dead people don't aren't worth your time. :coffee:

Monique wants the National Guard to protect the black victims. :roll: Forget that...why not just have black people riot and kill black truck drivers and anyone other black person until they get the message that blacks don't want to be a victim of, "whitey"...wait a minute, I mean blacks don't want to put up with black sh!t anymore. :kisswink:

Maybe MSM can cover this in depth and talk about klean's bitchy karma involving black violence. :rofl:
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I was sitting in traffic and tuned in to the Defense closing argument. The guy was a bit weak but it was interesting how he brought into evidence the non-emergency call that the prosecution ignored as well as countless police reports of crimes in that neighborhood where the arrested (and sometimes convicted offender) was a young black male.
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Ibanez wrote:I was sitting in traffic and tuned in to the Defense closing argument. The guy was a bit weak but it was interesting how he brought into evidence the non-emergency call that the prosecution ignored as well as countless police reports of crimes in that neighborhood where the arrested (and sometimes convicted offender) was a young black male.
I think the US justice system should be able to hand down the Scottish verdict of "not proven".

The reason I think there is more to this story is that Zimmerman lied when he didn't need to lie, and his lies were consistent with somebody trying to avoid looking like he was profiling.

His story originally was that he was walking the hood looking for a certain street sign, not following Martin. He told this story after calling the cops and reporting a suspicious black male, which was a theme with the guy, and he changed his testimony about it.He was out walking the hood, armed, and looking for a street sign, not following the guy he called the cops about? Why tell that tale and then change your story?

He lied to the cops when he said he didn't know about the "stand your ground law" and was shown on the stand to have lied. Why tell the cops you didn't know about the law? Both these lies look suspiciously like somebody, somebody with police training, who was told not to follow the "suspect", planning his story ahead of time.

I agree that from what I've heard the prosecution hasn't proven their case; the founding fathers felt that it was better for a guilty man to go free than for an innocent to be convicted. He will likely walk on the narrow grounds that the jury will rule on, but he deliberately put himself into a situation that it took him lethal force to get out of. He stays in his truck and there is no story.

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So its in the jury's hands now. Could they reach a descision on the weekend? I mean, I need to brace myself for any future riots coming down the street. I don't want to be caught flat footed.
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andy7171 wrote:So its in the jury's hands now. Could they reach a descision on the weekend? I mean, I need to brace myself for any future riots coming down the street. I don't want to be caught flat footed.
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Since Martin was black and Zimmerman is hispanic... which verdict allows me to riot?
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Gonna be no riots in my area.
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Haven't really followed the case... but, found this pretty funny. :lol:
"Four minutes -- that felt like a long time to you, that we sat here and did nothing for four minutes? You get to think what Trayvon Martin was doing," said O'Mara. "Four minutes to do what? To walk home? Run home? The four minute mile was broken when I was like, 12… I do know you can run a mile in about four minutes if you’re in decent shape.
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Lord have mercy on our community, and my elderly in-laws who live in Sanford and have for 58 years.

As an aside the NAACP national convention is currently being held at the Orange County Convention Center, a mere 30 miles from the Seminole County Courthouse and Sanford. How convenient.......
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89Hen wrote:Since Martin was black and Zimmerman is hispanic... which verdict allows me to riot?
Which ever one the DOJ helps to facilitate.
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With a single phrase, Rachel Jeantel, that friend of Trayvon Martin's, may have lit a fuse in the trial of his accused killer.
Asked by the defense what Martin told her on the phone that night when he first spotted George Zimmerman, she testified a "creepy-ass cracker" was following him. There is nothing illegal about that. Jeantel said she didn't even know it was a racial slur, and numerous commentators have noted that some in Florida use the term in a non-derogatory, colloquial sense.
But for plenty of rural, white southerners, "cracker" is a demeaning, bigoted term, and its appearance does nothing to help the prosecutors.
That said, ask Ferris what impact the word will ultimately have on public opinions of this trial, and he is succinct. "I would say none." Views of justice, he says, are inextricably linked to racial attitudes. Many blacks will see this trial one way, many whites another way, just as they did in the case of O.J. Simpson.
But the broader public does not matter. What matters is the jury. And it is hard to imagine how it can help the prosecution for those six southern women to know Martin spent some of his final moments uttering a racial insult, no matter what he intended
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blueballs wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
The DA is elected, and that is EXACTLY why this gross prosecutorial malpractice is occurring.
In this case the DA, Norm Wolfinger, was told to step down by the Governor because he didn't see fit to bring charges due to self defense.

Governor Scott, a republican, appointed a special prosecutor, Angela Corrie, from Jacksonville, to do the political bidding and bring charges against Zimmerman. The attorneys prosecuting this case were hand picked by Corrie. They aren't even from our circuit.
Scott should have his Republican card taken away and voted out of office for enabling this charade to happen, even if means putting a donk in his place. GD spineless RINOs are what is wrong with the Republican party. :ohno:
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grizzaholic wrote:
Bronco wrote:-

The city must be worried about being called racists because they claim it’s just a training exercise while the police officers say it’s aimed at the Zimmermna trial.



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Well, I'm going to be at the Sprint Cup race in New Hampshire.
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Don't think I have anything to worry about as far as being near any riots this weekend.

Now driving back Mon, I will steer clear of NYC....
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BDKJMU wrote: Scott should have his Republican card taken away and voted out of office for enabling this charade to happen, even if means putting a donk in his place. GD spineless RINOs are what is wrong with the Republican party. :ohno:
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The thing is that, based on what I've seen through an admittedly distorted prism. I don't see how anybody can say there' isn't reasonable doubt. If there's a reasonable possibility that Zimmerman thought he was in danger of great bodily harm then self defense comes into play and there's reasonable doubt that a crime was committed. They have an eye witness saying Martin was on top of Zimmerman moving his arms downward. They have the pictures of damage to the back of Zimmerman's head and know he had a broken nose. They have the forensic guy saying the gunshot information is consistent with Martin being on top of Zimmerman.

The prosecution was asking how Zimmerman could've gotten to the gun and shot if Martin was on top of him but there's testimony by a Martial Arts expert saying he could've done it. Plus how can you be using that to argue that Martin wasn't on top when there's an eye witness that saw him on top?

This is just ridiculous. Zimmerman is not supposed to have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he thought he was in danger of bodily harm. The prosecution is supposed to have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not believe that and shot Martin anyway.

I think he'd going to end up being convicted of Manslaughter because that option has been made available and the jury will think it can split the baby. And that's going to be a travesty unless the media distortion is REALLY bad as to what's been presented. No way the prosecution showed beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not think he was in danger of serious bodily harm.
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BTW this is one more example of how we over compensate for past sins when it comes to Blacks. If this had happened exactly the same way but Zimmerman had shot a White guy we probably wouldn't even know about it and Zimmerman probably would never have even been arrested. He was arrested because it was a Black guy he shot and it became political. And now everybody knows some number of Blacks are going to go apoplectic if he gets acquitted. Everybody including the jury members. Never mind if he's really guilty of a crime or not. Never mind if it's very possible that Martin attacked him and pinned him to the ground and started beating his head on the concrete.

We have to keep Blacks happy and play to the "we are victims" thing.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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In this case the DA, Norm Wolfinger, was told to step down by the Governor because he didn't see fit to bring charges due to self defense.

Governor Scott, a republican, appointed a special prosecutor, Angela Corrie, from Jacksonville, to do the political bidding and bring charges against Zimmerman. The attorneys prosecuting this case were hand picked by Corrie. They aren't even from our circuit.
Scott should have his Republican card taken away and voted out of office for enabling this charade to happen, even if means putting a donk in his place. GD spineless RINOs are what is wrong with the Republican party. :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Scott should have his Republican card taken away and voted out of office for enabling this charade to happen, even if means putting a donk in his place. GD spineless RINOs are what is wrong with the Republican party. :ohno:
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Not to mention their half-witted paranoid racist ideology that nobody wants. :coffee:
Its only that to stupid lib donks like yourself..... :coffee:
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Don't laugh buy the Wx report calls for storms starting about noon today and continuing through the evening.... normal sea breeze storms mixed with the remnants of TS Chantal.

If lightning accompanies the storms- which is likely- it would be a good time to announce the verdict because good ole Central FL lightning will keep the feral assholes inside, at least for today.
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Some talking heads on CNN just said that Zimmerman's life would be worse if he is acquitted.
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Yeah, really unbiased on their part.
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grizzaholic wrote:Some talking heads on CNN just said that Zimmerman's life would be worse if he is acquitted.
:dunce:

Yeah, really unbiased on their part.
they meant in Florida. he could always move to Idaho or Montana and be a hero. Rent a house rom Mark Furman
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