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JoltinJoe wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol: :kisswink:

He's in "Cheater's Heaven". :coffee:
Really?? Traded to the Diamondbacks, you say? :nod:
During baseball's steroid era, 26 who played for the New York Yankees - 14 pitchers and 12 position players - have been implicated in the use of performance-enhancing drugs, more than any other team. Some denied using the drugs, and others were reported to have used drugs before or after they played with the Yankees. Here, from Sen. George Mitchell's report and other public records, are details. The dates are the years they were Yankees.

Pitchers

Roger Clemens - 1999-2003, 2007. Former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee said he injected Clemens with growth hormone and steroids. Clemens denied using banned drugs and sued McNamee for defamation.

Andy Pettitte - 1995-2003, 2007. McNamee said he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone to heal a shoulder injury. Pettitte acknowledged using the drugs.

Kevin Brown - 2004-2005. From 2001, when he was a Dodger, to 2004, when he was a Yankee, Brown bought human growth hormone and steroids from former Mets batboy and confessed steroid dealer Kirk Radomski, Mitchell wrote.

Mike Stanton - 1997-2002; 2005. While a Yankee, Stanton met Radomski, Mitchell wrote. In 2003, after Stanton had joined the Mets, Radomski delivered growth hormone to him at Shea Stadium.

Denny Neagle - 2000. While a Yankee, Neagle met Radomski in a nightclub and bought growth hormone from him five or six times in four years, Mitchell wrote.

Jason Grimsley - 1999-2000. Grimsley bought $35,000 worth of drugs from Radomski while on the Yankees and three other teams, Mitchell wrote. In the Yankees bullpen in 2000, Grimsley showed steroid pills to McNamee, Mitchell wrote.

Ricky Bones - 1996. In 2000, when he was with the Florida Marlins, syringes and steroids were found in Bones' locker, Mitchell wrote. Bones said he got the drugs in Puerto Rico to treat a degenerative hip.

Ron Villone - 2006-2007. Villone bought growth hormone from Radomski in 2004 and 2005, while on the Mariners, Mitchell wrote. After he joined the Yankees, Villone called Radomski seeking more drugs, but by then federal agents had targeted the dealer, Mitchell wrote.

Dan Naulty - 1999. While with the Twins, he bought steroids from dealers in gyms, but stopped using the drugs when he joined the Yankees, Mitchell wrote. In a first-person article in the New York Daily News, Naulty implied he continued to use steroids and growth hormone with the Yankees.

Todd Williams - 2001. Radomski said he sold steroids to Williams in 2001.

Carlos Almanzar - 2001. With Texas in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Felix Heredia - 2003-04. With the Mets in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Darren Holmes - 1998. He told Sports Illustrated that in 2003, with the Braves, he bought growth hormone from an online pharmacy but never used it.

Josias Manzanillo - 1995. Radomski said he injected Manzanillo with steroids on the Mets in 1994. Manzanillo said he bought steroids but never used them.

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Bobby Estalella - Catcher, 2001. Told the BALCO grand jury that in 2002, with the Rockies, he got growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Greg Anderson, Barry Bonds' trainer.

Jim Leyritz - Catcher, 1990-1996, 1999-2000. He told the New York Post he used growth hormone during spring training 2001 in a failed attempt to catch on with the Mets.

Jason Giambi - First baseman, 2002-2007. He told the BALCO grand jury he obtained growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Anderson in 2002 and 2003.

Hal Morris - First baseman, outfielder, 1988-1989. While with the Reds in 1999, Morris bought steroids from Radomski, Mitchell wrote. Morris denied it.

Chuck Knoblauch - Infielder, 1998-2001. McNamee said he injected Knoblauch with growth hormone in 2001. Knoblauch also bought growth hormone from Grimsley, McNamee told Mitchell.

Randy Velarde - Infielder, 2001. Obtained BALCO steroids from Anderson, the player's lawyer said. Drug agents saw Velarde in the BALCO parking lot in 2002, while he was on the Oakland A's.

Jose Canseco - Outfielder, 2000. The self-proclaimed steroid pioneer joined the Yankees for the 2000 pennant run.

Glenallen Hill - Outfielder, 2000. Mitchell wrote that Hill bought human growth hormone from Radomski in 2000. Radomski said Hill, a former Giant, complained that growth hormone he had obtained in San Francisco was ineffective. Hill told Mitchell he bought steroids from Radomski but never used the drugs.

David Justice - Outfielder, 2000-2001. Mitchell wrote that Justice bought growth hormone from Radomski after the 2000 World Series. Justice denied using the drugs.

Gary Sheffield - Outfielder, 2004-2006. Sheffield told the BALCO grand jury that at Bonds' instruction, he used BALCO steroids after the 2003 season, when he was about to join the Yankees. He said he didn't know the substances were steroids until later.

Matt Lawton - Outfielder, 2005. He was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test in 2005.

Rondell White - Outfielder, 2002. Radomski said he delivered drugs to White's New York residence in 2002.
And that's only the list prior to 2008. Now their # is up to 30 (the MLB leader in that category, I might add, trailed closely by the Rangers' 27).

I think we all know where "Cheater's Heaven" is...EC(b) is RIGHT. :nod: :evil:
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JoltinJoe wrote:Congratulations to Alex Rodriguez on his return to major league baseball tonight. :coffee:

I hope he goes four for four.


And the class of the Yankees just went up, since he is replacing Jeter.
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dbackjon wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:Congratulations to Alex Rodriguez on his return to major league baseball tonight. :coffee:

I hope he goes four for four.


And the class of the Yankees just went up, since he is replacing Jeter.
:rofl: :rofl: :shock:

Way to let your desire for A-Roid's Latino schlong cloud your judgement of his character (or lack thereof). :ohno: :ohno:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

I hope he goes four for four.


And the class of the Yankees just went up, since he is replacing Jeter.
:rofl: :rofl: :shock:

Way to let your desire for A-Roid's Latino schlong cloud your judgement of his character (or lack thereof). :ohno: :ohno:

(quiet - I am having fun with Joe)


But A-Rod is hotter ;)
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Really?? Traded to the Diamondbacks, you say? :nod:
During baseball's steroid era, 26 who played for the New York Yankees - 14 pitchers and 12 position players - have been implicated in the use of performance-enhancing drugs, more than any other team. Some denied using the drugs, and others were reported to have used drugs before or after they played with the Yankees. Here, from Sen. George Mitchell's report and other public records, are details. The dates are the years they were Yankees.

Pitchers

Roger Clemens - 1999-2003, 2007. Former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee said he injected Clemens with growth hormone and steroids. Clemens denied using banned drugs and sued McNamee for defamation.

Andy Pettitte - 1995-2003, 2007. McNamee said he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone to heal a shoulder injury. Pettitte acknowledged using the drugs.

Kevin Brown - 2004-2005. From 2001, when he was a Dodger, to 2004, when he was a Yankee, Brown bought human growth hormone and steroids from former Mets batboy and confessed steroid dealer Kirk Radomski, Mitchell wrote.

Mike Stanton - 1997-2002; 2005. While a Yankee, Stanton met Radomski, Mitchell wrote. In 2003, after Stanton had joined the Mets, Radomski delivered growth hormone to him at Shea Stadium.

Denny Neagle - 2000. While a Yankee, Neagle met Radomski in a nightclub and bought growth hormone from him five or six times in four years, Mitchell wrote.

Jason Grimsley - 1999-2000. Grimsley bought $35,000 worth of drugs from Radomski while on the Yankees and three other teams, Mitchell wrote. In the Yankees bullpen in 2000, Grimsley showed steroid pills to McNamee, Mitchell wrote.

Ricky Bones - 1996. In 2000, when he was with the Florida Marlins, syringes and steroids were found in Bones' locker, Mitchell wrote. Bones said he got the drugs in Puerto Rico to treat a degenerative hip.

Ron Villone - 2006-2007. Villone bought growth hormone from Radomski in 2004 and 2005, while on the Mariners, Mitchell wrote. After he joined the Yankees, Villone called Radomski seeking more drugs, but by then federal agents had targeted the dealer, Mitchell wrote.

Dan Naulty - 1999. While with the Twins, he bought steroids from dealers in gyms, but stopped using the drugs when he joined the Yankees, Mitchell wrote. In a first-person article in the New York Daily News, Naulty implied he continued to use steroids and growth hormone with the Yankees.

Todd Williams - 2001. Radomski said he sold steroids to Williams in 2001.

Carlos Almanzar - 2001. With Texas in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Felix Heredia - 2003-04. With the Mets in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Darren Holmes - 1998. He told Sports Illustrated that in 2003, with the Braves, he bought growth hormone from an online pharmacy but never used it.

Josias Manzanillo - 1995. Radomski said he injected Manzanillo with steroids on the Mets in 1994. Manzanillo said he bought steroids but never used them.

OTHERS

Bobby Estalella - Catcher, 2001. Told the BALCO grand jury that in 2002, with the Rockies, he got growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Greg Anderson, Barry Bonds' trainer.

Jim Leyritz - Catcher, 1990-1996, 1999-2000. He told the New York Post he used growth hormone during spring training 2001 in a failed attempt to catch on with the Mets.

Jason Giambi - First baseman, 2002-2007. He told the BALCO grand jury he obtained growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Anderson in 2002 and 2003.

Hal Morris - First baseman, outfielder, 1988-1989. While with the Reds in 1999, Morris bought steroids from Radomski, Mitchell wrote. Morris denied it.

Chuck Knoblauch - Infielder, 1998-2001. McNamee said he injected Knoblauch with growth hormone in 2001. Knoblauch also bought growth hormone from Grimsley, McNamee told Mitchell.

Randy Velarde - Infielder, 2001. Obtained BALCO steroids from Anderson, the player's lawyer said. Drug agents saw Velarde in the BALCO parking lot in 2002, while he was on the Oakland A's.

Jose Canseco - Outfielder, 2000. The self-proclaimed steroid pioneer joined the Yankees for the 2000 pennant run.

Glenallen Hill - Outfielder, 2000. Mitchell wrote that Hill bought human growth hormone from Radomski in 2000. Radomski said Hill, a former Giant, complained that growth hormone he had obtained in San Francisco was ineffective. Hill told Mitchell he bought steroids from Radomski but never used the drugs.

David Justice - Outfielder, 2000-2001. Mitchell wrote that Justice bought growth hormone from Radomski after the 2000 World Series. Justice denied using the drugs.

Gary Sheffield - Outfielder, 2004-2006. Sheffield told the BALCO grand jury that at Bonds' instruction, he used BALCO steroids after the 2003 season, when he was about to join the Yankees. He said he didn't know the substances were steroids until later.

Matt Lawton - Outfielder, 2005. He was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test in 2005.

Rondell White - Outfielder, 2002. Radomski said he delivered drugs to White's New York residence in 2002.
And that's only the list prior to 2008. Now their # is up to 30 (the MLB leader in that category, I might add, trailed closely by the Rangers' 27).

I think we all know where "Cheater's Heaven" is...EC(b) is RIGHT. :nod: :evil:
You know the only two sources for the "Mitchell Report" :rofl: have been deemed by a federal jury to have been liars?

And most of these guys took PEDs after leaving the Yankees. And no one on the '98 team has been linked to PEDs in 1998 or anytime before. Must kill you to know a team of that era was clean, when all you have is one measly tainted championship. :nod:

I pity you.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:


And that's only the list prior to 2008. Now their # is up to 30 (the MLB leader in that category, I might add, trailed closely by the Rangers' 27).

I think we all know where "Cheater's Heaven" is...EC(b) is RIGHT. :nod: :evil:
You know the only two sources for the "Mitchell Report" :rofl: have been deemed by a federal jury to have been liars?

And most of these guys took PEDs after leaving the Yankees. And no one on the '98 team has been linked to PEDs in 1998 or anytime before. Must kill you to know a team of that era was clean, when all you have is one measly tainted championship. :nod:

I pity you.

You are just mad that our juice was better than your juice.
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dbackjon wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
You know the only two sources for the "Mitchell Report" :rofl: have been deemed by a federal jury to have been liars?

And most of these guys took PEDs after leaving the Yankees. And no one on the '98 team has been linked to PEDs in 1998 or anytime before. Must kill you to know a team of that era was clean, when all you have is one measly tainted championship. :nod:

I pity you.

You are just mad that our juice was better than your juice.
Your juice couldn't one game in New York... So you really didn't win. Baseball games in Arizona are exhibitions. You have to win in New York if you really want to be a champion.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

You are just mad that our juice was better than your juice.
Your juice couldn't one game in New York... So you really didn't win. Baseball games in Arizona are exhibitions. You have to win in New York if you really want to be a champion.

And if NY could win in Arizona - but they didn't - they got thrashed, and the "best closer ever" got nailed.
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dbackjon wrote:It will be hard for MLB to suspend A-Rod for much longer, based on what they did to Melky Cabrera last year.
He is going down swinging he refuses to admit defeat!!!
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dbackjon wrote:
... and the "best closer ever" got nailed.
By a cheater. Probably the most shameful moment in MLB history.

Just think, all that juice and all that big p**** could do was hit the ball about 100 feet. :ohno:
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I don't understand this ultimatum crap. Threatening a lifetime ban if a guy doesn't agree to what may or may not be an excessive suspension? I'm not arguing that these guys are innocent. But by unilaterally taking away rights negotiated under the CBA makes it sound like Selig is turning into Goodell: i.e. abuse of power. I wouldn't be surprised if the MLBPA ends up suing Selig. A lifetime ban isn't going to stand up in court if they denied the right of appeal.

Whatever one thinks about these guys, this is NOT the right way to go about it. Sure, PEDs are bad for the game, but this is worse, IMO. Power-hungry idiots running the show. This has GOT to stop....
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JoltinJoe wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
... and the "best closer ever" got nailed.
By a cheater. Probably the most shameful moment in MLB history.

Just think, all that juice and all that big p**** could do was hit the ball about 100 feet. :ohno:
womack, grace and bell were cheaters?
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JoltinJoe wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
... and the "best closer ever" got nailed.
By a cheater. Probably the most shameful moment in MLB history.

Just think, all that juice and all that big p**** could do was hit the ball about 100 feet. :ohno:
Must absolutely kill you that your vaunted team hasn't won a championship (despite all those roids) since the Diamondbacks won it all in '01. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
By a cheater. Probably the most shameful moment in MLB history.

Just think, all that juice and all that big p**** could do was hit the ball about 100 feet. :ohno:
Must absolutely kill you that your vaunted team hasn't won a championship (despite all those roids) since the Diamondbacks won it all in '01. :coffee:
Actually,the Yankees won it in '09, Mr.Class Action Rep. :lol:
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Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Must absolutely kill you that your vaunted team hasn't won a championship (despite all those roids) since the Diamondbacks won it all in '01. :coffee:
Actually,the Yankees won it in '09, Mr.Class Action Rep. :lol:
Yeah. On roids.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Really?? Traded to the Diamondbacks, you say? :nod:
During baseball's steroid era, 26 who played for the New York Yankees - 14 pitchers and 12 position players - have been implicated in the use of performance-enhancing drugs, more than any other team. Some denied using the drugs, and others were reported to have used drugs before or after they played with the Yankees. Here, from Sen. George Mitchell's report and other public records, are details. The dates are the years they were Yankees.

Pitchers

Roger Clemens - 1999-2003, 2007. Former Yankees trainer Brian McNamee said he injected Clemens with growth hormone and steroids. Clemens denied using banned drugs and sued McNamee for defamation.

Andy Pettitte - 1995-2003, 2007. McNamee said he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone to heal a shoulder injury. Pettitte acknowledged using the drugs.

Kevin Brown - 2004-2005. From 2001, when he was a Dodger, to 2004, when he was a Yankee, Brown bought human growth hormone and steroids from former Mets batboy and confessed steroid dealer Kirk Radomski, Mitchell wrote.

Mike Stanton - 1997-2002; 2005. While a Yankee, Stanton met Radomski, Mitchell wrote. In 2003, after Stanton had joined the Mets, Radomski delivered growth hormone to him at Shea Stadium.

Denny Neagle - 2000. While a Yankee, Neagle met Radomski in a nightclub and bought growth hormone from him five or six times in four years, Mitchell wrote.

Jason Grimsley - 1999-2000. Grimsley bought $35,000 worth of drugs from Radomski while on the Yankees and three other teams, Mitchell wrote. In the Yankees bullpen in 2000, Grimsley showed steroid pills to McNamee, Mitchell wrote.

Ricky Bones - 1996. In 2000, when he was with the Florida Marlins, syringes and steroids were found in Bones' locker, Mitchell wrote. Bones said he got the drugs in Puerto Rico to treat a degenerative hip.

Ron Villone - 2006-2007. Villone bought growth hormone from Radomski in 2004 and 2005, while on the Mariners, Mitchell wrote. After he joined the Yankees, Villone called Radomski seeking more drugs, but by then federal agents had targeted the dealer, Mitchell wrote.

Dan Naulty - 1999. While with the Twins, he bought steroids from dealers in gyms, but stopped using the drugs when he joined the Yankees, Mitchell wrote. In a first-person article in the New York Daily News, Naulty implied he continued to use steroids and growth hormone with the Yankees.

Todd Williams - 2001. Radomski said he sold steroids to Williams in 2001.

Carlos Almanzar - 2001. With Texas in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Felix Heredia - 2003-04. With the Mets in 2005, he was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test.

Darren Holmes - 1998. He told Sports Illustrated that in 2003, with the Braves, he bought growth hormone from an online pharmacy but never used it.

Josias Manzanillo - 1995. Radomski said he injected Manzanillo with steroids on the Mets in 1994. Manzanillo said he bought steroids but never used them.

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Bobby Estalella - Catcher, 2001. Told the BALCO grand jury that in 2002, with the Rockies, he got growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Greg Anderson, Barry Bonds' trainer.

Jim Leyritz - Catcher, 1990-1996, 1999-2000. He told the New York Post he used growth hormone during spring training 2001 in a failed attempt to catch on with the Mets.

Jason Giambi - First baseman, 2002-2007. He told the BALCO grand jury he obtained growth hormone and BALCO steroids from Anderson in 2002 and 2003.

Hal Morris - First baseman, outfielder, 1988-1989. While with the Reds in 1999, Morris bought steroids from Radomski, Mitchell wrote. Morris denied it.

Chuck Knoblauch - Infielder, 1998-2001. McNamee said he injected Knoblauch with growth hormone in 2001. Knoblauch also bought growth hormone from Grimsley, McNamee told Mitchell.

Randy Velarde - Infielder, 2001. Obtained BALCO steroids from Anderson, the player's lawyer said. Drug agents saw Velarde in the BALCO parking lot in 2002, while he was on the Oakland A's.

Jose Canseco - Outfielder, 2000. The self-proclaimed steroid pioneer joined the Yankees for the 2000 pennant run.

Glenallen Hill - Outfielder, 2000. Mitchell wrote that Hill bought human growth hormone from Radomski in 2000. Radomski said Hill, a former Giant, complained that growth hormone he had obtained in San Francisco was ineffective. Hill told Mitchell he bought steroids from Radomski but never used the drugs.

David Justice - Outfielder, 2000-2001. Mitchell wrote that Justice bought growth hormone from Radomski after the 2000 World Series. Justice denied using the drugs.

Gary Sheffield - Outfielder, 2004-2006. Sheffield told the BALCO grand jury that at Bonds' instruction, he used BALCO steroids after the 2003 season, when he was about to join the Yankees. He said he didn't know the substances were steroids until later.

Matt Lawton - Outfielder, 2005. He was suspended 10 days for failing a steroid test in 2005.

Rondell White - Outfielder, 2002. Radomski said he delivered drugs to White's New York residence in 2002.
And that's only the list prior to 2008. Now their # is up to 30 (the MLB leader in that category, I might add, trailed closely by the Rangers' 27).

I think we all know where "Cheater's Heaven" is...EC(b) is RIGHT. :nod: :evil:
Nice list of people that should be banned and records wiped from the books.
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SuperHornet wrote:I don't understand this ultimatum crap. Threatening a lifetime ban if a guy doesn't agree to what may or may not be an excessive suspension? I'm not arguing that these guys are innocent. But by unilaterally taking away rights negotiated under the CBA makes it sound like Selig is turning into Goodell: i.e. abuse of power. I wouldn't be surprised if the MLBPA ends up suing Selig. A lifetime ban isn't going to stand up in court if they denied the right of appeal.

Whatever one thinks about these guys, this is NOT the right way to go about it. Sure, PEDs are bad for the game, but this is worse, IMO. Power-hungry idiots running the show. This has GOT to stop....
Shocker, I disagree with SH. Show me how cheating is not more harmful to the game than gambling and I'll agree. The fact that A-Roid, aka A-Fraud, doesn't deserve a lifetime ban, but Pete Rose does is nonsense. All of these cheaters have done more to harm the integrity of the game than Pete Rose ever did. :lol: Baseball...it's a joke.
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Again...please let A-Roid win his appeal so that the Yankmees are on the hook for paying him that ridiculous contract! :rofl:
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SuperHornet wrote:I don't understand this ultimatum crap. Threatening a lifetime ban if a guy doesn't agree to what may or may not be an excessive suspension? I'm not arguing that these guys are innocent. But by unilaterally taking away rights negotiated under the CBA makes it sound like Selig is turning into Goodell: i.e. abuse of power. I wouldn't be surprised if the MLBPA ends up suing Selig. A lifetime ban isn't going to stand up in court if they denied the right of appeal.

Whatever one thinks about these guys, this is NOT the right way to go about it. Sure, PEDs are bad for the game, but this is worse, IMO. Power-hungry idiots running the show. This has GOT to stop....
Shocker, I disagree with SH. Show me how cheating is not more harmful to the game than gambling and I'll agree. The fact that A-Roid, aka A-Fraud, doesn't deserve a lifetime ban, but Pete Rose does is nonsense. All of these cheaters have done more to harm the integrity of the game than Pete Rose ever did. :lol: Baseball...it's a joke.
The rumor is MLB has a lot of evidence on A-Roid, further back than Biogenesis, in otherwords, he has been juicing for years. Presumably there is evidence that could land him in jail. MLB is giving him a chance to take the easy way out with this ban.

These cheaters teams won games because they used PED's. I see momentum growing for tougher penalties on PED users from the players and fans alike.
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A-Rod should get the same suspensions as Cabrera and Braun.

If you want to argue all three should have 200+ game bans, I am fine with that. But to give A-Rod a punishment four times of Cabrera is wrong.

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dbackjon wrote:A-Rod should get the same suspensions as Cabrera and Braun.

If you want to argue all three should have 200+ game bans, I am fine with that. But to give A-Rod a punishment four times of Cabrera is wrong.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/alex-rodri ... 00942.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Baseball has more evidence on A-Roid than Braun or Cabrera. Longer time using and dealing in steroids, more offenses. More will come out in time, but A-Roid could land in jail before it's all over.

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dbackjon wrote:A-Rod should get the same suspensions as Cabrera and Braun.

If you want to argue all three should have 200+ game bans, I am fine with that. But to give A-Rod a punishment four times of Cabrera is wrong.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/alex-rodri ... 00942.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I argue any cheaters should get lifetime bans. Cheating harms the "integrity of the game" more than gambling, yet you get a lifetime ban for gambling and lying than you do for cheating and lying. Baseball has been and is a joke.
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dbackjon wrote:A-Rod should get the same suspensions as Cabrera and Braun.

If you want to argue all three should have 200+ game bans, I am fine with that. But to give A-Rod a punishment four times of Cabrera is wrong.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/alex-rodri ... 00942.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Baseball has more evidence on A-Roid than Braun or Cabrera. Longer time using and dealing in steroids, more offenses. More will come out in time, but A-Roid could land in jail before it's all over.

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he penalty was for “[Rodriguez's] use and possession of numerous forms of prohibited performance-enhancing substances, including testosterone and human growth hormone over the course of multiple years.”
Plus A-Roid refused to work out a deal like Ryan Fraud.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Baseball has more evidence on A-Roid than Braun or Cabrera. Longer time using and dealing in steroids, more offenses. More will come out in time, but A-Roid could land in jail before it's all over.

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Plus A-Roid refused to work out a deal like Ryan Fraud.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:
Plus A-Roid refused to work out a deal like Ryan Fraud.
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