Tea Party

[travelinman67]

T,
Bud, you're just being obstinate. Little push and they get up and running. Your line of thinking in badgering D about this denigrates the entrepeneurship of Americans, something I thought a harcore Conk might value.

Shame.

Not being obstinate, Cap'n, just illustrating the failings of a tax and spend philosophy. At least D1B is willing to discuss issues and try to work through to a solution.

[travelinman67]

Client: I want to start a business.

Tman: Great do you have a plan?

Client: Yes, it's my lifelong dream and passion to do this, I've been working on it for years.

Tman: Great. Let's look at your plan to ensure it will remain permanently viable in all economic conditions.

Client: How can we do that?

Tman: We'll diversify your product line so it spreads across a wide consumer base that will not dry up depending on economic conditions. For example, you wouldn't want to base your business solely on a dependence of govt. contracts, which are subject to the whim of politicians who base decisions on non-business political "winds". Further, we'll build in an area with a stable work force with a history absent of labor unions whose goal has become the short-term fattening of union trust funds at the expense of their worker's long term security. To accomplish this, we'll design the product line to become a component of a necessary supply chain, that sustains a "necessary" consumer end product not subject to political decisions. Consider those govt. contracts as "gravy" work that enhances, but is not essential to, your company's bottom line.

Client: We can do that. I see where you're going with this. Why do so many other businesses fail to consider these factors, Tman?

Tman: Short-term thinking.

____________________________________________________________________________

Tman: Beverly, I'm going to be very busy helping this client for the rest of the day, so please put any calls from Cap'n and D1B on hold. Transfer them to line 7 first, the one that plays Kraftwerks on-hold music.

Beverly: My pleasure, sir.

[JMU DJ]

So I didn't bother to read through this drivel, but if I'm making a point someone else made... my B.


.... I don't see why all of a sudden Conks are pissed off about the governments spending habits when for the past 8 years they were leakier with spending than a sieve. Yeah, I think there's a problem of spending without means in this country, but you can't blame it on the current administration without digging the skeletons out of your own closet.

[hank scorpio]

FIRST THOUGHTS: TEA TIME

From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Tea time: Who would have ever thought that a discussion of tea bags -- even used as a verb, from both the right and left -- would become a political topic, let alone a subject we’d mention in First Read. But here we are… On this Tax Day, some Americans are attending so-called "tea party" or "tea bag" events across the country to protest everything from tax rates and the federal bailouts, to the young Obama presidency. But let’s be clear about one thing: These tea parties are hardly non-partisan events. While there’s certainly a grassroots component here, these parties have been co-opted by a major America political party (the RNC's Web site allows for creating send-a-tea-bag post cards to Dem leaders) and an entire cable news channel (which has been promoting the events). The main Web site for the events today, Tax Day Tea Party, is funded by conservative groups, and a public records search shows it's registered to a conservative techie, Allen B. Fuller, who used to be a legislative correspondent for GOP Sen. Richard Shelby and who touts creating Web sites for Republican elected officials. Also reportedly involved in today’s protest events are FreedomWorks, a conservative group founded by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, and Americans for Prosperity.

*** What Republicans might stand to gain -- and lose: With its association with these “tea party” protests, the Republican Party does stand to gain here in a mechanical/process way. If it gets a huge turnout nationwide, it will be a bit of a test run for its social networking apparatus. The Tax Day Tea Party Web site, in fact, is reminiscent of what the Obama campaign was able to do with things like voter registration and grassroots meet-ups. You can click on a state and find where there's a local tea party in any state in the country. This kind of tech savvy could pay dividends in the long run. On the other hand, this whole thing could backfire if some unsavory elements (i.e., people saying and doing some very stupid things) attend these events. Also, what happens if today’s parties don’t capture the imagination of anyone beyond the GOP amplifiers of FOX and talk radio? Today has turned into a big test of the power of the GOP grassroots in the Obama era. The pre-game for these tea parties has seemed a bit scattershot. One can sense a hesitance from the establishment wing of the GOP about getting too involved in this movement, for the fears we've described above. Tax Day has normally been an easy P.R. hit for the GOP, but with the tea party gamble, the GOP doesn't seemed focused on good 'ol fashioned tax issues.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 92475.aspx

[TwinTownBisonFan]

So I didn't bother to read through this drivel, but if I'm making a point someone else made... my B.


.... I don't see why all of a sudden Conks are pissed off about the governments spending habits when for the past 8 years they were leakier with spending than a sieve. Yeah, I think there's a problem of spending without means in this country, but you can't blame it on the current administration without digging the skeletons out of your own closet.

SHHHH YOU'RE RUINING THEIR ASTROTURF RECRUITING METHOD!!!

[hank scorpio]

Conks are getting ready to congregate!

Image removed due to the fact that Hank Scorpio is retar.... um "special".

[OL FU]

So I didn't bother to read through this drivel, but if I'm making a point someone else made... my B.


.... I don't see why all of a sudden Conks are pissed off about the governments spending habits when for the past 8 years they were leakier with spending than a sieve. Yeah, I think there's a problem of spending without means in this country, but you can't blame it on the current administration without digging the skeletons out of your own closet.

Maybe you should read the thread

[hank scorpio]

(CNN) -- Happy Patriots' Day. April 15 is the one day a year when our country asks something of us -- or at least the vast majority of us.

For those who wear a military uniform, those who serve the rest of us as policemen and firefighters and teachers and other public servants, every day is patriots' day. They work hard for our country; many risk their lives -- and some lose their lives.

But for the rest of us, the civilian majority, our government asks very little. Except for April 15. On this day, our government asks that we pay our fair share of taxes to keep our beloved country strong and safe.

Freedom isn't free. That's what the courageous World War II veterans of the American Legion taught me back in Texas Boys State decades ago. That phrase had special meaning for them. Those guys had seen buddies blown apart at Anzio or Guadalcanal.

I grew up in a different era. There was no draft, and while I have friends and family members who joined the military, most of my peers, like me, opted for the security and prosperity of the private sector.

This country has showered me with the blessings of liberty. So what do I owe my country in return? Paying my fair share of taxes, it seems, is the least I can do. Thanks to President Obama and the Democratic Congress, 95 percent of Americans will get a tax cut this year. No one -- not even the wealthiest 1 percent -- will have to pay higher income taxes until 2011.

So why are a bunch of Fox News clowns and right-wing cranks hosting "tea parties" all over the country? The Boston Tea Party, in case the clods at Fox didn't know it, protested "taxation without representation." Note the second word: without. The goofballs tossing tea bags today have representation. They voted in the election; they lost.

That a bunch of overpaid media millionaires would lead a faux-populist revolt is comical. They somehow held their populist instincts in check as George W. Bush and the Republicans cut taxes on the idle rich and put the screws to the working stiffs.

Bush's tax policies were a godsend to the Paris Hilton class, but they sent the country on the road to bankruptcy and helped ruin the economy. But now that we the people have decided to set things right, now that we've hired Obama to fix the mess conservatives created, now they're protesting?

Give me a break. Instead of tossing tea bags for the cameras, the Fox phonies ought to go to Walter Reed Army Medical Center. There they would find better, braver men who have truly sacrificed for their country. They deserve nothing but the best -- not the shameful and shoddy conditions they endured during the Bush administration.

You want something to protest? How 'bout protesting how little we give back to our veterans? Or how 'bout protesting that the entire budget of the National Cancer Institute (where government researchers battle a disease that will strike half of all men and a third of all women) is 0.03 percent of what we gave the bandits at American International Group alone? Oh, but veterans benefits and cancer research might cost money. It might require -- dare I say it? -- paying taxes.

If the whiners at Fox News want to advertise their selfishness, they are free to do so. But please don't dress it up as patriotism. Patriotism is putting your country ahead of yourself -- which is the precise opposite of what the tea party plutocrats are doing.

Editor's note: Paul Begala, a Democratic strategist and CNN political contributor, was a political consultant for Bill Clinton's presidential campaign in 1992 and was counselor to Clinton in the White House.

[JMU DJ]

So I didn't bother to read through this drivel, but if I'm making a point someone else made... my B.


.... I don't see why all of a sudden Conks are pissed off about the governments spending habits when for the past 8 years they were leakier with spending than a sieve. Yeah, I think there's a problem of spending without means in this country, but you can't blame it on the current administration without digging the skeletons out of your own closet.

Maybe you should read the thread

Interesting concept

Glad I could reiterate and surmise many of the points made in this thread with brevity

[travelinman67]

Yet Begala left out the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars spent to bail out the banks, the trillions to expand government NOT being spent on the veterans, and the $42,105 debt Obama has incurred for every man, woman and child in the U.S.

Guess that part of the Dem talking points isn't so "Patriotic".


SMFH...

[hank scorpio]

I am hoping they bring in the riot police and I can have the afternoon off!


Live feed
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[dbackjon]

http://www.savetherich.com/

[Wedgebuster]

http://www.savetherich.com/

From the Kansas City Star:

Among the speakers was Thomas Tabback, a novelist and the co-writer of Joe the Plumber's book, "Joe the Plumber: Fighting for the American Dream."

Tabback implored the crowd to fight against a rising "socialist evil" and return the country to its historical greatness. He won the biggest reponse, though, on a double entendre.

"Kings destroy societies, and we got a whole slew of kings up there right now," Tabback said, pausing for effect. "And some queens."

The crowd roared, and at least one gave voice to the statement's implication, yelling out "Barney Frank!"

Joe The Plumber-

Douchbaggery reigns supreme across our great land as mini-bunches of television mind rot victims turn out to be publicly tea bagged and preached to by universally acclaimed mega-retardo-douche bags like Joe The Plumber and Sean Hannity!!

Funny fucking shit here!


Hank, how is any business getting done in the magic city today with that HUGE crowd of folks being tea bagged there?

[wideright82]

I am hoping they bring in the riot police and I can have the afternoon off!



Live feed
http://www.co.yellowstone.mt.gov/webcam/

Look at all those people complaining

[Wedgebuster]

I am hoping they bring in the riot police and I can have the afternoon off!



Live feed
http://www.co.yellowstone.mt.gov/webcam/

Look at all those people complaining

One grenade could eliminate a lot of congenital dental defects for generations to come.

[OL FU]

(CNN) -- Happy Patriots' Day. April 15 is the one day a year when our country asks something of us -- or at least the vast majority of us.

For those who wear a military uniform, those who serve the rest of us as policemen and firefighters and teachers and other public servants, every day is patriots' day. They work hard for our country; many risk their lives -- and some lose their lives.

But for the rest of us, the civilian majority, our government asks very little. Except for April 15. On this day, our government asks that we pay our fair share of taxes to keep our beloved country strong and safe.

Freedom isn't free. That's what the courageous World War II veterans of the American Legion taught me back in Texas Boys State decades ago. That phrase had special meaning for them. Those guys had seen buddies blown apart at Anzio or Guadalcanal.

I grew up in a different era. There was no draft, and while I have friends and family members who joined the military, most of my peers, like me, opted for the security and prosperity of the private sector.

This country has showered me with the blessings of liberty. So what do I owe my country in return? Paying my fair share of taxes, it seems, is the least I can do. Thanks to President Obama and the Democratic Congress, 95 percent of Americans will get a tax cut this year. No one -- not even the wealthiest 1 percent -- will have to pay higher income taxes until 2011.

So why are a bunch of Fox News clowns and right-wing cranks hosting "tea parties" all over the country? The Boston Tea Party, in case the clods at Fox didn't know it, protested "taxation without representation." Note the second word: without. The goofballs tossing tea bags today have representation. They voted in the election; they lost.

That a bunch of overpaid media millionaires would lead a faux-populist revolt is comical. They somehow held their populist instincts in check as George W. Bush and the Republicans cut taxes on the idle rich and put the screws to the working stiffs.

Bush's tax policies were a godsend to the Paris Hilton class, but they sent the country on the road to bankruptcy and helped ruin the economy. But now that we the people have decided to set things right, now that we've hired Obama to fix the mess conservatives created, now they're protesting?

Give me a break. Instead of tossing tea bags for the cameras, the Fox phonies ought to go to Walter Reed Army Medical Center. There they would find better, braver men who have truly sacrificed for their country. They deserve nothing but the best -- not the shameful and shoddy conditions they endured during the Bush administration.

You want something to protest? How 'bout protesting how little we give back to our veterans? Or how 'bout protesting that the entire budget of the National Cancer Institute (where government researchers battle a disease that will strike half of all men and a third of all women) is 0.03 percent of what we gave the bandits at American International Group alone? Oh, but veterans benefits and cancer research might cost money. It might require -- dare I say it? -- paying taxes.

If the whiners at Fox News want to advertise their selfishness, they are free to do so. But please don't dress it up as patriotism. Patriotism is putting your country ahead of yourself -- which is the precise opposite of what the tea party plutocrats are doing.

Editor's note: Paul Begala, a Democratic strategist and CNN political contributor, was a political consultant for Bill Clinton's presidential campaign in 1992 and was counselor to Clinton in the White House.

I guess democrat and republican operatives aren't all that different. Don't agree with me and I will call you names.

After that load of BS I might just be patriotic and go exercise my first amendment right, my right to have a different political view point from the party in power and attend one of these tea parties

I hope they serve drinks or I won't last too long

[dbackjon]

They are serving TEA, OL FU...duh

[OL FU]

They are serving TEA, OL FU...duh

Columbo or sinsemilla

[clenz]

I am hoping they bring in the riot police and I can have the afternoon off!



Live feed
http://www.co.yellowstone.mt.gov/webcam/

Look at all those people complaining

It was pretty full about 20 min ago.

[Wedgebuster]

They are serving TEA, OL FU...duh

Columbo or sinsemilla

Bag, OL, they are serving tea BAG!

[wideright82]

They are serving TEA, OL FU...duh

Columbo or sinsemilla

Earl Grey

[wideright82]

Look at all those people complaining

It was pretty full about 20 min ago.

Yeah, wow it really died down. When I posted it was pretty good and full. It's tough to protest when no one is there to listen.

[OL FU]

Columbo or sinsemilla

Earl Grey

That's more my speed. I hope it isn't de-caffeinated

[OL FU]

Look at all those people complaining

It was pretty full about 20 min ago.

Where is that place.

[clenz]

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