The Tea Party has ruined the Republican Party.houndawg wrote:You kidding me? Z listens to tea party speeches while he chokes the pope.Ibanez wrote:
Is it? Have you not listened to any Tea Party candidates or attended one of their rallies? You obviously haven't.
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Glen Urquhart: "The exact phrase 'separation of Church and State' came out of Adolph HItler's mouth, that's where it comes from. So the next time your liberal friends talk about the separation of Church and State, ASK THEM WHY THEY'RE NAZIS."
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"I don't want to be associated with those people, but I also don't want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that’s one of the things freedom requires is that we allow people to be boorish and uncivilized, but that doesn't mean we approve of it." —Rand Paul, taking issue with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 while arguing that government should not prevent private businesses from discriminating on the basis of race, interview with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, May 21, 2010
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AZGrizFan wrote:Sweet Jesus that is a huge swing and a miss.Ibanez wrote: They are anti-gov't. If you aren't with them, you're against them. If you're bi-partisan, you're against them and the enemy. If you compromise, you lack principles and are the enemy. They are xenophobic. They want to control people but don't want to be controlled themselves (abortion and gay rights). They use faith based, radical scriptural literal-ism in a secular government. They ignore accepted and proved science and facts. I don't want a person like that in power.
Yep. The TEA party is mainly about tax and spending issues, not fringe social issues.
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Yeah, Tea Party Candidates and Legislators have NEVER talked about rape, gay rights or abortion. Welfare is a social and a spending issue.BDKJMU wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Sweet Jesus that is a huge swing and a miss.
Yep. The TEA party is mainly about tax and spending issues, not fringe social issues.
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No, the TEA party has reined in the Republican party who were Obama lite when it came to spending. If anything they saved it from being ruined by fiscal irresponsibility..Ibanez wrote:The Tea Party has ruined the Republican Party.houndawg wrote:
You kidding me? Z listens to tea party speeches while he chokes the pope.
You can list a bunch of fringe comments about fringe social issues, but the TEA Party is mainly about economic issues.
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I didn't say they hadn't.Ibanez wrote:Yeah, Tea Party Candidates and Legislators have NEVER talked about rape, gay rights or abortion. Welfare is a social and a spending issue.BDKJMU wrote:
Yep. The TEA party is mainly about tax and spending issues, not fringe social issues.
My main concern is economic and sh*t like Syria. The fed govt should only be involved with issues that are specifically granted to their purview under the constitution. Let the states decide on whether or not they want to allow gay marriage, abortion, and want to spend $ on welfare.
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The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.BDKJMU wrote:No, the TEA party has reined in the Republican party who were Obama lite when it came to spending. If anything they saved it from being ruined by fiscal irresponsibility..Ibanez wrote: The Tea Party has ruined the Republican Party.
You can list a bunch of fringe comments about fringe social issues, but the TEA Party is mainly about economic issues.
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Their main platform may be economic and I agree it is, but we both know that they aren't single issue.BDKJMU wrote:I didn't say they hadn't.Ibanez wrote: Yeah, Tea Party Candidates and Legislators have NEVER talked about rape, gay rights or abortion. Welfare is a social and a spending issue.But that doesn't change the fact that their main platform is economic.
My main concern is economic and sh*t like Syria. The fed govt should only be involved with issues that are specifically granted to their purview under the constitution. Let the states decide on whether or not they want to allow gay marriage, abortion, and want to spend $ on welfare.
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What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that legislators try to be all things to all constituents? Maybe you should read a little Burke.Ibanez wrote:Their main platform may be economic and I agree it is, but we both know that they aren't single issue.BDKJMU wrote:
I didn't say they hadn't.But that doesn't change the fact that their main platform is economic.
My main concern is economic and sh*t like Syria. The fed govt should only be involved with issues that are specifically granted to their purview under the constitution. Let the states decide on whether or not they want to allow gay marriage, abortion, and want to spend $ on welfare.The last thing this country needs is more division. Tea party legislators forget that they serve ALL the people in their districts and/or states. Not just those that voted for them.
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So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.Ibanez wrote:The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.BDKJMU wrote:
No, the TEA party has reined in the Republican party who were Obama lite when it came to spending. If anything they saved it from being ruined by fiscal irresponsibility..
You can list a bunch of fringe comments about fringe social issues, but the TEA Party is mainly about economic issues.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
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Just like it's easier for you to race bait rather than actually discuss an issue objectively.CitadelGrad wrote:So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.Ibanez wrote:
The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
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It is curious that they didn't organize while this guy was in office:CitadelGrad wrote:So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.Ibanez wrote:
The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Now, I'm not saying they're all racists, but I will say that most of them are partisan hacks.
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I voted, "I'm Syrian, so I think he's Da Bomb."
Bitches.
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When I attended the rally in Charleston, there was no shortage of racists signs and speakers saying that we should, "send him back to the fields." That's my experience.CitadelGrad wrote:So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.Ibanez wrote:
The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Dangerous? Read my other post. They are as dangerous as the ignorant/arrogant leader we have today.
That would Obama, in case you're having trouble.
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Funny how that works out...ASUMountaineer wrote:It is curious that they didn't organize while this guy was in office:CitadelGrad wrote:
So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Now, I'm not saying they're all racists, but I will say that most of them are partisan hacks.
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Ibanez wrote:The Tea Party is a group that organized after a black man became President. These people are dangerous.BDKJMU wrote:
No, the TEA party has reined in the Republican party who were Obama lite when it came to spending. If anything they saved it from being ruined by fiscal irresponsibility..
You can list a bunch of fringe comments about fringe social issues, but the TEA Party is mainly about economic issues.
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Ibanez wrote:When I attended the rally in Charleston, there was no shortage of racists signs and speakers saying that we should, "send him back to the fields." That's my experience.CitadelGrad wrote:
So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Dangerous? Read my other post. They are as dangerous as the ignorant/arrogant leader we have today.
That would Obama, in case you're having trouble.
You're going to use YOUR anectodal evidence of ONE rally in a notoriously racist part of the country to paint an entire MOVEMENT with that fucked up brush you used?
For some reason, I thought you were smarter than that.
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It curious that there areASUMountaineer wrote:It is curious that they didn't organize while this guy was in office:CitadelGrad wrote:
So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Now, I'm not saying they're all racists, but I will say that most of them are partisan hacks.
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Nah, it's curious that there areBDKJMU wrote:It curious that there areASUMountaineer wrote:
It is curious that they didn't organize while this guy was in office:
Now, I'm not saying they're all racists, but I will say that most of them are partisan hacks.that think Bush's fiscal irresponsibility is even remotely close to Obama's...
Again, the Tea Party is comprised mostly of partisan hacks masquerading as libertarians. No wonder you would defend them.
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You know, there have been numerous incidents of Dem Party operatives showing up at Tea Party events with racists signs. Of course, they pretend to be with the Tea Party.Ibanez wrote:When I attended the rally in Charleston, there was no shortage of racists signs and speakers saying that we should, "send him back to the fields." That's my experience.CitadelGrad wrote:
So they're racists because they were formed after a black man won the presidency? I don't suppose that had anything to do with Obama's politics, would it? Of course not. That would require an examination of his ideology. It's easier just to pull out the race card.
In what sense is the Tea Party dangerous? Are they really any more dangerous than Obama and his ilk?
Dangerous? Read my other post. They are as dangerous as the ignorant/arrogant leader we have today.
That would Obama, in case you're having trouble.
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This was early in the movement. I highly doubt it. I recognized some of the people. It's ok to disagree with your party.CitadelGrad wrote:You know, there have been numerous incidents of Dem Party operatives showing up at Tea Party events with racists signs. Of course, they pretend to be with the Tea Party.Ibanez wrote:
When I attended the rally in Charleston, there was no shortage of racists signs and speakers saying that we should, "send him back to the fields." That's my experience.
Dangerous? Read my other post. They are as dangerous as the ignorant/arrogant leader we have today.
That would Obama, in case you're having trouble.
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There are more rally's that prove my point. Why do you have a hard on for people that don't understand our constitution, our history and our people?AZGrizFan wrote:Ibanez wrote:
When I attended the rally in Charleston, there was no shortage of racists signs and speakers saying that we should, "send him back to the fields." That's my experience.
Dangerous? Read my other post. They are as dangerous as the ignorant/arrogant leader we have today.
That would Obama, in case you're having trouble.![]()
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You're going to use YOUR anectodal evidence of ONE rally in a notoriously racist part of the country to paint an entire MOVEMENT with that fucked up brush you used?
For some reason, I thought you were smarter than that.
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what? Dal? Can you translate?BDKJMU wrote:It curious that there areASUMountaineer wrote:
It is curious that they didn't organize while this guy was in office:
Now, I'm not saying they're all racists, but I will say that most of them are partisan hacks.that think Bush's fiscal irresponsibility is even remotely close to Obama's...
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Apparently the Tea Partiers are the new Chosen People. I must've not received the memo.ASUMountaineer wrote:Nah, it's curious that there areBDKJMU wrote:
It curious that there arethat think Bush's fiscal irresponsibility is even remotely close to Obama's...
that brush aside one's fiscal irresponsibility when it's convenient. Fiscal irresponsibility is fiscal irresponsibility. I mentioned nothing of degrees of fiscal irresponsibility, if you and your fellow Tea Partiers take such issue with fiscal irresponsibility why did you wait until Bush was out of office to organize? Was his not damaging? Are Tea Partiers willing to tolerate some fiscal irresponsibility, but draw an arbitrary line at too much fiscal irresponsibility?
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Again, the Tea Party is comprised mostly of partisan hacks masquerading as libertarians. No wonder you would defend them.
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