SRS by NCAA standards

[Robsnotes4u]

A great quote from a committee member

JB: It's a good question. It's diligence, really. I think most people have the illusion that this is a weekend decision. It's not a weekend decision. It starts in early fall and it goes through every game of the season. And certainly this weekend takes (importance).

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[89Hen]

Why does the BCS use them? and on and on and on.... but I guess all of those governing bodies don't know as much as you do? Vegas uses them as well.

You need to move on from this argument. It's not going well for you.

I assume you are talking to me? I know how all these governing bodies work, most of us who have been posting for 10+ year do, you apparently don't. This hasn't been going well for you for two weeks now.

[GannonFan]

If computer rankings were not useful why would the NCAA tourney use them? Why is the FCS using them?

You can't compare the use of computer models in NCAA men's basketball to the use of computer models in FCS football. The scenarios are significantly different and different in a way that makes the use of them in the basketball scneario perfectly statistically valid. It all comes down to sample size.

In college basketball, most teams play about 30 games a year, and there is a tremendous amount of cross-over games between the various conferences. Once you start playing that many games, and have that level of interplay, then mathematical models became strikingly more accurate, and accurate to a point where it makes sense to use them.

In FCS football, you just don't have that. Each team plays 12 games when they can, unless they are purposely trying to miss the playoffs, and there is little interplay between the conferences. There just isn't a large enough sample size to draw statistically and mathematically reliable extrapolations from that data.

So when you say why wouldn't you want more information, and that computer ranking systems provide that information, the part you leave out is that the computer information, because it is not mathematically sound for the given sample size, is erroneous information. It's exactly how the GPI, year after year, is beaten out by the AGS poll (and the GPI has never beaten the AGS poll) - the GPI takes the AGS, and then muddies it up with unsound computer models that purport to be valid.

Sure it works in college basketball - if football's season was twice as long as it is now, computer models would be useful then too. Until then...

[89Hen]

In FCS football, you just don't have that. Each team plays 12 games when they can, unless they are purposely trying to miss the playoffs...