2013 NFC B/West Thread

[SDHornet]

[Seahawks08]

5-1

And don't forget, Carolina has a terrible secondary.

Stick to FCS football.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

5-1

And don't forget, Carolina has a terrible secondary.

Stick to FCS football.

Yeah, Seahawk fans should be embarrassed to squeak out a win against Carolina on the road, but I'm sure rk will tout how much better Carolina is now and that SF losing to them at home is a quality loss.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

rk and the Knifer fans have gone pretty silent the last few weeks. Hmmmm....

[uofmman1122]

Not a whole lot to say.

Really just hope we can sneak into the playoffs and get Crabtree back to his old self.

That's about our only hope.

[Seahawks08]

Not a whole lot to say.

Really just hope we can sneak into the playoffs and get Crabtree back to his old self.

That's about our only hope.

49ers should have won the game. That was not a penalty on Brooks. NFL is changing for the worse.

[uofmman1122]

Not a whole lot to say.

Really just hope we can sneak into the playoffs and get Crabtree back to his old self.

That's about our only hope.

49ers should have won the game. That was not a penalty on Brooks. NFL is changing for the worse.

Agreed, but what do you expect?

It's Drew Brees in N'Orleans.

The worst part is that there was a similar (and much more obvious) neck hit on Kaep earlier in the game that wasn't called.

[uofmman1122]

And Brooks just got fined $16,000 for the hit.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

And Brooks just got fined $16,000 for the hit.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Sounds like Earl Thomas getting flagged and fined for hitting Tannehill last year on the way down from jumping to block the pass. It was unavoidable, and marginal contact.

[Brock Landers]

rk and the Knifer fans have gone pretty silent the last few weeks. Hmmmm....

What's to say?
A) we suck
B) I suppose we can let Seattle win a championship in something for once. Assuming they don't screw it up

[Grizalltheway]

rk and the Knifer fans have gone pretty silent the last few weeks. Hmmmm....

What's to say?
A) we suck
B) I suppose we can let Seattle win a championship in something for once. Assuming they don't screw it up

BIG assumption.

[clenz]

The 7th Seahawk was just popped for PEDs since 2010....

[Screamin_Eagle174]

The 7th Seahawk was just popped for PEDs since 2010....

Cornerback Walter Thurmond is facing a four-game suspension for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse (non-PED), NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported on NFL Network's "NFL GameDay Morning," according to multiple sources informed of the situation.

He smoked pot. Dear lawdy!

[Seahawks08]

One year suspension for Browner for smoking pot. Such a dumbass. At least that makes things easier on the hawks with money for free agents next year.

[rkwittem]

5-1

And don't forget, Carolina has a terrible secondary.

Stick to FCS football.

Yeah, Seahawk fans should be embarrassed to squeak out a win against Carolina on the road, but I'm sure rk will tout how much better Carolina is now and that SF losing to them at home is a quality loss.

No, it's a pathetic loss. Carolina is getting bounced early in the playoffs- they have a bunch of wins vs crappy teams this year. Unless they play Dallas.
SF has yet to play their best football. Seattle needs home games or they're toast, too. I trust teams based on their coach and QB when it comes to the playoffs. Don't trust Pete Carroll, not totally sure on Wilson. Similar for 49ers but Harbaugh is better. Only teams I trust at QB and HC are probably NO and NE. And Baltimore. That just means I trust them, not that I'll pick them to win playoff games.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Yeah, Seahawk fans should be embarrassed to squeak out a win against Carolina on the road, but I'm sure rk will tout how much better Carolina is now and that SF losing to them at home is a quality loss.

No, it's a pathetic loss. Carolina is getting bounced early in the playoffs- they have a bunch of wins vs crappy teams this year. Unless they play Dallas.
SF has yet to play their best football. Seattle needs home games or they're toast, too. I trust teams based on their coach and QB when it comes to the playoffs. Don't trust Pete Carroll, not totally sure on Wilson. Similar for 49ers but Harbaugh is better. Only teams I trust at QB and HC are probably NO and NE. And Baltimore. That just means I trust them, not that I'll pick them to win playoff games.

1. Carolina is 8-3, with wins over SF and NE; hardly crappy teams. I think they've proved they have the defense to hang with just about any team in the NFL.
2. Seattle has also yet to play their best football, as they've been without their starting tackles, starting center, and best WR for most of the season.
3. Seattle is 5-1 on the road. Keep digging.
4. Not sure on Wilson?

Your Seattle hate-based "logic" is getting more pathetic by the day.

[rkwittem]

Carolina has beaten no one of repute except SF (barely), New England (unfairly), and has losses to Arizona and Buffalo. Their other wins are not exceptional. They are a flawed team that hasn't had those flaws exposed because no one, except NE, has been able to show them. Most NFC playoff teams will be able to show these flaws off. Except Dallas, of course. And maybe Seattle, if your assessment of both Carolina (that they're actually elite) and Seattle (that they haven't played well yet) is actually correct, which I doubt.

The Seattle road record argument is as soft as their schedule. Only loss on the road gets worse by the week as Indy slowly degrades into a shadow of its former self. Carolina is, as noted, a paper tiger. It's a pity that Seattle won't get to play on the road in the playoffs unless New Orleans does us all a huge favor...

[kalm]

Carolina has beaten no one of repute except SF (barely), New England (unfairly), and has losses to Arizona and Buffalo. Their other wins are not exceptional. They are a flawed team that hasn't had those flaws exposed because no one, except NE, has been able to show them. Most NFC playoff teams will be able to show these flaws off. Except Dallas, of course. And maybe Seattle, if your assessment of both Carolina (that they're actually elite) and Seattle (that they haven't played well yet) is actually correct, which I doubt.

The Seattle road record argument is as soft as their schedule. Only loss on the road gets worse by the week as Indy slowly degrades into a shadow of its former self. Carolina is, as noted, a paper tiger. It's a pity that Seattle won't get to play on the road in the playoffs unless New Orleans does us all a huge favor...

I admire your pluck.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Carolina has beaten no one of repute except SF (barely), New England (unfairly), and has losses to Arizona and Buffalo. Their other wins are not exceptional. They are a flawed team that hasn't had those flaws exposed because no one, except NE, has been able to show them. Most NFC playoff teams will be able to show these flaws off. Except Dallas, of course. And maybe Seattle, if your assessment of both Carolina (that they're actually elite) and Seattle (that they haven't played well yet) is actually correct, which I doubt.

The Seattle road record argument is as soft as their schedule. Only loss on the road gets worse by the week as Indy slowly degrades into a shadow of its former self. Carolina is, as noted, a paper tiger. It's a pity that Seattle won't get to play on the road in the playoffs unless New Orleans does us all a huge favor...

It is truly amazing, witnessing the lengths you will go to avoid admitting you're wrong. You're entering SH territory now.

[Seahawks08]

No, it's a pathetic loss. Carolina is getting bounced early in the playoffs- they have a bunch of wins vs crappy teams this year. Unless they play Dallas.
SF has yet to play their best football. Seattle needs home games or they're toast, too. I trust teams based on their coach and QB when it comes to the playoffs. Don't trust Pete Carroll, not totally sure on Wilson. Similar for 49ers but Harbaugh is better. Only teams I trust at QB and HC are probably NO and NE. And Baltimore. That just means I trust them, not that I'll pick them to win playoff games.

Carolina has beaten no one of repute except SF (barely), New England (unfairly), and has losses to Arizona and Buffalo. Their other wins are not exceptional. They are a flawed team that hasn't had those flaws exposed because no one, except NE, has been able to show them. Most NFC playoff teams will be able to show these flaws off. Except Dallas, of course. And maybe Seattle, if your assessment of both Carolina (that they're actually elite) and Seattle (that they haven't played well yet) is actually correct, which I doubt.

The Seattle road record argument is as soft as their schedule. Only loss on the road gets worse by the week as Indy slowly degrades into a shadow of its former self. Carolina is, as noted, a paper tiger. It's a pity that Seattle won't get to play on the road in the playoffs unless New Orleans does us all a huge favor...

okay I really don't know where to begin with all of this. There are so few things correct about your two posts it's like you don't watch the games at all and just look at the standings after each week.

A main problem I have with your posts is that you keep referencing these playoff teams (barring some sort of collapse at this point) have played weak schedules or something. By that logic, I could argue the Broncos haven't beaten anyone (Chiefs don't count since they haven't beaten anyone either). Then I can go to the Saints and say they haven't beaten anyone other than SF (where they shouldn't have won but w/e).

SF hasn't played their best yet? Ask Washington and the rams that.

So the only teams you trust, NO and NE, both lost to the Jets. Just sayin.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Hey lordoffootballknowledgerkwitten, is New Orleans a good team? Also, does a win at home count, or do only road wins against elite elite really good elite teams count?

~You're humble football novice, SE174

[rkwittem]

okay I really don't know where to begin with all of this. There are so few things correct about your two posts it's like you don't watch the games at all and just look at the standings after each week.

A main problem I have with your posts is that you keep referencing these playoff teams (barring some sort of collapse at this point) have played weak schedules or something. By that logic, I could argue the Broncos haven't beaten anyone (Chiefs don't count since they haven't beaten anyone either). Then I can go to the Saints and say they haven't beaten anyone other than SF (where they shouldn't have won but w/e).

SF hasn't played their best yet? Ask Washington and the rams that.

So the only teams you trust, NO and NE, both lost to the Jets. Just sayin.

I'm no NFL addict like I was in my younger days...but I still know overrated when I see it. Carolina doesn't pass the eye test. They might for you but not me. I don't trust Cam, I don't trust Rivera, I don't like their WR's or DB's and that's not getting it done in January.

Yes, the same standard applies to Denver and KC. I hate Peyton Manning as much as the next guy (among those that do) and KC is too limited. Fun story, nice stadium, strong fanbase, good to have them in a playoff race...but losing their WC game against whoever they play. New England is the gold standard in the AFC. Best coach, best QB, smartest adjustments and most flexible team in the conference. They have flaws but not terrible ones... New Orleans is another bad road team.

I wouldn't be bragging about beating Washington and St. Louis very much. If Seattle wants to prop those teams up to make SF look good, well....that just shows that Seattle fans are still clinging to their inferiority complexes. Pretty much what I'd expect. The Sonics took their only championshiop in the city's history with them to OKC.

[kalm]

okay I really don't know where to begin with all of this. There are so few things correct about your two posts it's like you don't watch the games at all and just look at the standings after each week.

A main problem I have with your posts is that you keep referencing these playoff teams (barring some sort of collapse at this point) have played weak schedules or something. By that logic, I could argue the Broncos haven't beaten anyone (Chiefs don't count since they haven't beaten anyone either). Then I can go to the Saints and say they haven't beaten anyone other than SF (where they shouldn't have won but w/e).

SF hasn't played their best yet? Ask Washington and the rams that.

So the only teams you trust, NO and NE, both lost to the Jets. Just sayin.

I'm no NFL addict like I was in my younger days...but I still know overrated when I see it. Carolina doesn't pass the eye test. They might for you but not me. I don't trust Cam, I don't trust Rivera, I don't like their WR's or DB's and that's not getting it done in January.

Yes, the same standard applies to Denver and KC. I hate Peyton Manning as much as the next guy (among those that do) and KC is too limited. Fun story, nice stadium, strong fanbase, good to have them in a playoff race...but losing their WC game against whoever they play. New England is the gold standard in the AFC. Best coach, best QB, smartest adjustments and most flexible team in the conference. They have flaws but not terrible ones... New Orleans is another bad road team.

I wouldn't be bragging about beating Washington and St. Louis very much. If Seattle wants to prop those teams up to make SF look good, well....that just shows that Seattle fans are still clinging to their inferiority complexes. Pretty much what I'd expect. The Sonics took their only championshiop in the city's history with them to OKC.

Seattle will be the worst Super Bowl Champion ever!

[uofmman1122]

The last 24 hours have been pretty insufferable.

[Seahawks08]

I wouldn't be bragging about beating Washington and St. Louis very much. If Seattle wants to prop those teams up to make SF look good, well....that just shows that Seattle fans are still clinging to their inferiority complexes. Pretty much what I'd expect. The Sonics took their only championshiop in the city's history with them to OKC.

I'm not propping any team up, my point was that SF steamrolled those teams the last 2 weeks. I watched both games, so while the score in the Washington game says it, the score in the the rams game was deceiving (23-13). They are playing their best right now. That's why this sunday's matchup against the Seahawks will be freaking awesome.

Inferiority complex? Seattle just beat one of your precious teams with its QB-HC combo that you love so much. I don't think you should be talking about inferiority complexes.