UW clinic to offer second trimester abortions!!!

[dbackjon]

Colonel - I knew I left myself open for that, and I would argue that you are trying to compare apples and oranges. A person (murder victim) has legal rights. A fetus does not.

As much as we can argue as to when life begin, when a person is a person, etc, the reality is that until the fetus is delivered, an abortion will not be looked upon the same way as a we look upon a murder.

Is that right? ...

Nope it is not right, Jon. Your legalistic argument was the same argument used to justify slavery and the denial of citizenship to American Indians. I am not saying that carrying the child to term might not be the greater evil, but the abortion of a live fetus is evil, just the same.

Yes and no. It is very apparent that Indians and Blacks are full citizens - so it is not an entirely apples to oranges comparison.

My biggest thing with being pro-choice is that I am not willing to FORCE a woman to carry a fetus to full term.

[D1B]

Colonel - I knew I left myself open for that, and I would argue that you are trying to compare apples and oranges. A person (murder victim) has legal rights. A fetus does not.

As much as we can argue as to when life begin, when a person is a person, etc, the reality is that until the fetus is delivered, an abortion will not be looked upon the same way as a we look upon a murder.

Is that right? ...

Nope it is not right, Jon. Your legalistic argument was the same argument used to justify slavery and the denial of citizenship to American Indians. I am not saying that carrying the child to term might not be the greater evil, but the abortion of a live fetus is evil, just the same.

Native, I'll put this as simply as I can. A fetus cannot have rights. The mother always has to have the upper hand. Otherwise you're compelled to set up an oppressive and impossible system of pregnancy monitoring and laws that send mothers to prisons (or death row if they live in Texas) as murderers. Women would have to register their pregnancy and........did you know that anywhere from 20 to 80% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage or spontaneous abortion. So now what

Slaves are people, fetuses are fetuses.

[D1B]

Assholes, how bout a thread of the year nomination here!!!???

Jesus Fvcking Christ, what does a guy have to do. This is classic!

[Wedgebuster]

Assholes, how bout a thread of the year nomination here!!!???

Jesus Fvcking Christ, what does a guy have to do. This is classic!

So moved, do we hear a second?

[dbackjon]

Assholes, how bout a thread of the year nomination here!!!???

Jesus Fvcking Christ, what does a guy have to do. This is classic!

So moved, do we hear a second?

I am only in favor of allowing first term - no second.

[Cap'n Cat]

Full reproductive rights, guys. These rare, extreme things brought up by Conks just do not happen for the sake of "convenience".

Dunce Conks.

[native]

...Do we take it the logical step further, and ban any woman of child-bearing years from drinking, smoking, or engaging in any behavior that could be harmful to a potentially developing fetus?

My mom is foster mother for five brothers, the last four of whom all have extremely serious health issues - some potentially mortal - because their birth mother was a severe substance abuser.

Little 8-year-old Daniel has an impish grin, an IQ of more than 150, a permanent life-threatening heart murmur and some psychotherapist addictive personality disorder mumbo-jumbo that might or might not be valid. What do you tell Daniel?

[dbackjon]

...Do we take it the logical step further, and ban any woman of child-bearing years from drinking, smoking, or engaging in any behavior that could be harmful to a potentially developing fetus?

My mom is foster mother for five brothers, the last four of whom all have extremely serious health issues - some potentially mortal - because their birth mother was a severe substance abuser.

Little 8-year-old Daniel has an impish grin, an IQ of more than 150, a permanent life-threatening heart murmur and some psychotherapist addictive personality disorder mumbo-jumbo that might or might not be valid. What do you tell Daniel?

first - kudos to you mom...

So you are saying that yes, we should restrict women from doing those things?

Or what is the solution to prevent crack babies in the future?

[D1B]

So moved, do we hear a second?

I am only in favor of allowing first term - no second.

unless the life of the mother is in jeapardy..

[Purple For Life]

I will rip anyone's dick off (since I assume only men would try to keep me from getting an abortion) who stands in my way from getting rid of a uterine parasite.

Oh, and Z?

CROTCH FRUIT
CROTCH DROPPING
FUCK TROPHY
SPROG
MOO

Ahhh, that feels good.

[Purple For Life]

http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

[Ibanez]

I am pro-choice, but don't you think there should be trimester limits on abortions. I have no problem when it is still a collection of cells but after 6 weeks, the fetus has minor brain function and a pumping heart. Perhaps it should only be allowed up to 6 weeks. People see abortion as birth control and it isn't.

[Ibanez]

My mom is foster mother for five brothers, the last four of whom all have extremely serious health issues - some potentially mortal - because their birth mother was a severe substance abuser.

Little 8-year-old Daniel has an impish grin, an IQ of more than 150, a permanent life-threatening heart murmur and some psychotherapist addictive personality disorder mumbo-jumbo that might or might not be valid. What do you tell Daniel?

first - kudos to you mom...

So you are saying that yes, we should restrict women from doing those things?

Or what is the solution to prevent crack babies in the future?

Sterilization?

[D1B]

I am pro-choice, but don't you think there should be trimester limits on abortions. I have no problem when it is still a collection of cells but after 6 weeks, the fetus has minor brain function and a pumping heart. Perhaps it should only be allowed up to 6 weeks. People see abortion as birth control and it isn't.

No they don't Mark. Ridiculous statement that conks want you to believe. SMFH


Do you have a condom?
No
That's OK, I'll just have an abortion if I get pregnant.
Cool beans, lose the skirt Jenny...

[Ibanez]

I am pro-choice, but don't you think there should be trimester limits on abortions. I have no problem when it is still a collection of cells but after 6 weeks, the fetus has minor brain function and a pumping heart. Perhaps it should only be allowed up to 6 weeks. People see abortion as birth control and it isn't.

No they don't Mark. Ridiculous statement that conks want you to believe. SMFH


Do you have a condom?
No
That's OK, I'll just have an abortion if I get pregnant.
Cool beans, lose the skirt Jenny...

Kids still say "cool beans"?

[Cap'n Cat]

I will rip anyone's dick off (since I assume only men would try to keep me from getting an abortion) who stands in my way from getting rid of a uterine parasite.

Oh, and Z?

CROTCH FRUIT
CROTCH DROPPING
[*]f**k TROPHY
SPROG
MOO[/size][/b]

Ahhh, that feels good.

LMFatAO!!!!


Post Of The Day!!!!!

[D1B]

No they don't Mark. Ridiculous statement that conks want you to believe. SMFH


Do you have a condom?
No
That's OK, I'll just have an abortion if I get pregnant.
Cool beans, lose the skirt Jenny...

Kids still say "cool beans"?

Who gives a fvck, Ralph.

[dbackjon]

Kids still say "cool beans"?

Who gives a fvck, Ralph.

Heck, i still say cool beans.

[D1B]

Who gives a fvck, Ralph.

Heck, i still say cool beans.

Yeah, but you aint hip, like others.

[Cap'n Cat]

What a cock! HAHAHAHAAA!

[Pwns]

I have a question for those of you who support Planned Parenthood - How do you feel about the fact that this organization claims that their ultimate goal is the reduction of child poverty and ensuring people only have kids when they are ready, yet they do absolutely no lobbying to reduce the exorbitant amount of red tape and costs that keep many couples from adopting kids? And why does the organization do nothing to assist women who do not wish to keep their babies but do not want to have an abortion? How do you feel about the fact that it is largely bankrolled by unabashed malthusians like David Rockefeller, Bill Gates, and George Soros?

I am pro-choice, but don't you think there should be trimester limits on abortions. I have no problem when it is still a collection of cells but after 6 weeks, the fetus has minor brain function and a pumping heart. Perhaps it should only be allowed up to 6 weeks. People see abortion as birth control and it isn't.

No they don't Mark. Ridiculous statement that conks want you to believe. SMFH


Do you have a condom?
No
That's OK, I'll just have an abortion if I get pregnant.
Cool beans, lose the skirt Jenny...

According to page 6 of this pdf, 48% of women who have had at least 1 abortion have had multiple abortions. 20% have had three or more. You're going to tell me these people made an unlikely mistake more than once?

http://www.thirdway.org/data/product/fi ... ortion.pdf

I will rip anyone's dick off (since I assume only men would try to keep me from getting an abortion) who stands in my way from getting rid of a uterine parasite.

Oh, and Z?

CROTCH FRUIT
CROTCH DROPPING
[*]f**k TROPHY
SPROG
MOO[/size][/b]

Ahhh, that feels good.

Actually, scientific polls show women are only slightly less likely to be anti-abortion than men are. Your gender studies professors lied to you if they told you that the anti-abortion America is a bunch of misogynist old men who don't want women to have careers.

[griz37]

I will rip anyone's dick off (since I assume only men would try to keep me from getting an abortion) who stands in my way from getting rid of a uterine parasite.

Oh, and Z?

CROTCH FRUIT
CROTCH DROPPING
[*]f**k TROPHY
SPROG
MOO[/size][/b]

Ahhh, that feels good.

Every abortion protester I have ever seen in Missoula has been a woman, they were all ugly as sin too.

[D1B]

I have a question for those of you who support Planned Parenthood - How do you feel about the fact that this organization claims that their ultimate goal is the reduction of child poverty and ensuring people only have kids when they are ready, yet they do absolutely no lobbying to reduce the exorbitant amount of red tape and costs that keep many couples from adopting kids? And why does the organization do nothing to assist women who do not wish to keep their babies but do not want to have an abortion? How do you feel about the fact that it is largely bankrolled by unabashed malthusians like David Rockefeller, Bill Gates, and George Soros?

From your source - "Multiple abortions are uncommon"

Sorry dude, this issue aint none of your business. Women are captains of this ship and they will make the decisions regarding their health.

[Cap'n Cat]

Pwns is fvcked, as usual. He's T Junior on this shiat.

Son, suggestion for you, go to Planned Parenthood's website, bitch, and see the number of programs they're involved with that try to ensure that every child is a wanted child BEFORE the decision to terminate a pregnancy is imminent. To give a simple example that even YOU can understand, they are for the enhanced proliferation of, and education about, birth control. See the tie-in I'm illustratin', youngster?

Planned Parenthood is no more FOR abortion than you are. Start thinkin' a little deeper than your ancestors.

Talkin' outta yer ass ain't gonna git you anywhere, boy.




Fvck, we got a long way to go in this country..............

[D1B]

Pwns is fvcked, as usual. He's T Junior on this shiat.

Son, suggestion for you, go to Planned Parenthood's website, bitch, and see the number of programs they're involved with that try to ensure that every child is a wanted child BEFORE the decision to terminate a pregnancy is imminent. To give a simple example that even YOU can understand, they are for the enhanced proliferation of, and education about, birth control. See the tie-in I'm illustratin', youngster?

Planned Parenthood is no more FOR abortion than you are. Start thinkin' a little deeper than your ancestors.

Talkin' outta yer ass ain't gonna git you anywhere, boy.




Fvck, we got a long way to go in this country..............

Well put.