Well, they didn't play anybody as strong as a Big South team...AZGrizFan wrote:And what conferences are their playoff wins against?vutomcat wrote:
Would love to have seen you play a CAA schedule this year. You have no clue. Doesn't the fact that they haven't lost a game to any other conference and we are already in the semis give you any pause at all ?
Good Lord, AZ. I love you like a brother (the normal kind, not the hillbilly incestuous kind), and I'll even accept that you're a watered down beer drinking guy, but I'm throwing the flag on you for this one.AZGrizFan wrote:And what conferences are their playoff wins against?vutomcat wrote:
Would love to have seen you play a CAA schedule this year. You have no clue. Doesn't the fact that they haven't lost a game to any other conference and we are already in the semis give you any pause at all ?
I stand corrected. EWU is a 2 point favorite.kalm wrote:Computer models probably support this.vutomcat wrote:
Yup
UNI was 7-5 against a good schedule and didn't get in. I don't think they deserved to be in but I also understand where vutomcat is coming from. Youngstown, Nova, UNI and others were better than many of the at larges that were invited. Tough sh!t in the end, UNI and the others needed to win one more game and they didn't.AZGrizFan wrote:Win more games. It's as simple as that. Schedule a 12th game and win it. You'd probably have been in. Don't leave it in the hands of a selection committee.vutomcat wrote:
Feel like I am spitting into the wind with this, but I'll try one more time. The comment about NOVA's schedule being middling is ridiculous. Everyone that does SOS ratings for FCS has their SOS in the top 5. No matter how you try to spin it, that's a fact.
By agreeing that teams like W&M (SOS 9), DE. (SOS 27)and Nova (SOS 2) shouldn't have been in the field you are agreeing with the selections of Samford (beaten 55-14), Southern Utah (beaten 51-20) and South Carolina State (beaten by 10 by a five loss Furman team)
All three of these selections were all at large selections with the magic number of 8 and 9 wins and had low SOS. I think SC State SOS was something in the 80's. To quote another poster "most knowledgeable fans of FCS football" knew they weren't any good. Naturally they were all well beaten in the preliminary round. They were poor selections. That's my point. No one here seems to think SOS has any merit in FCS. I just don't get it.
I know the computer rankings are REALLY unpopular on this site but any of them would have predicted those defeats.
None of which answers my question. The answers are Lafayette and Fordham. Moral victories don't count.Cluck U wrote:Good Lord, AZ. I love you like a brother (the normal kind, not the hillbilly incestuous kind), and I'll even accept that you're a watered down beer drinking guy, but I'm throwing the flag on you for this one.AZGrizFan wrote:
And what conferences are their playoff wins against?
Last year the Patriot game EWU, at home, all it could handle, Patriot teams have given 3-peat Appy, at home, all they could handle, and the Griz just got whipped, at home, by a no-defense Big South (known affectionately as the Big Fluffy South) team and those Utes (think Joe Pesci), with a supposedly good D for a Big Fluffy Sky team, got destroyed by a Southland (known affectionately as the Fluffy Southland) team.
OK, back to beating down nova fans.
You're right. They played patriot league schools.89Hen wrote:Well, they didn't play anybody as strong as a Big South team...AZGrizFan wrote:
And what conferences are their playoff wins against?
I understand that, but I feel like they needed one more win to get in. They should not have lost to UNH, and that wound up killing them in the end. IMO, schedule a team like Fordham at home instead of on the road (especially if they play only 11 games), so it gives them a better chance for a win. If anything, this shows Nova should make up an easier schedule from now on.Feel like I am spitting into the wind with this, but I'll try one more time. The comment about NOVA's schedule being middling is ridiculous. Everyone that does SOS ratings for FCS has their SOS in the top 5. No matter how you try to spin it, that's a fact.
By agreeing that teams like W&M (SOS 9), DE. (SOS 27)and Nova (SOS 2) shouldn't have been in the field you are agreeing with the selections of Samford (beaten 55-14), Southern Utah (beaten 51-20) and South Carolina State (beaten by 10 by a five loss Furman team)
All three of these selections were all at large selections with the magic number of 8 and 9 wins and had low SOS. I think SC State SOS was something in the 80's. To quote another poster "most knowledgeable fans of FCS football" knew they weren't any good. Naturally they were all well beaten in the preliminary round. They were poor selections. That's my point. No one here seems to think SOS has any merit in FCS. I just don't get it.
I know the computer rankings are REALLY unpopular on this site but any of them would have predicted those defeats.
Classic coming from you. Go back down the hole you came out of.OK, back to beating down nova fans.
who is "more deserving" - a 7-5 team with all d1 wins or an 8-4 team with 3 sub d1/non counter Ws?LDopaPDX wrote:Strength of schedule only matters if you have 8 wins. With 5 losses, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs. Any suggestion otherwise shows that the playoff field has expanded too include too many teams.
That said, it is troubling when teams like SC State get in, as it doesn't take a genius to figure out a 3-loss team from the MEAC probably isn't any good.
Unless you play in a really crappy conference and can get an auto. The ones I can think of...LDopaPDX wrote:With 5 losses, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
Lafayette I'll give you, but Fordham would have beaten Coastal Carolina.AZGrizFan wrote: None of which answers my question. The answers are Lafayette and Fordham. Moral victories don't count.
That was a decade ago, and they beat juggernauts like WIU and FAU to get there. They then proceeded to get skunked by the first good team they faced.Cluck U wrote:Lafayette I'll give you, but Fordham would have beaten Coastal Carolina.AZGrizFan wrote: None of which answers my question. The answers are Lafayette and Fordham. Moral victories don't count.
And then there was a team called Colgate who walked through the playoffs until the finals.
Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Herr..ummm...ahhh...Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Back to being home for the finals! EWU soon to be 3-0 vs the CAA!
Oops!Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Back to being home for the finals! EWU soon to be 3-0 vs the CAA!
No, you nailed it! The CAA will be back home Sunday to prepare for Frisco.Gil Dobie wrote:My badGil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
That's pretty much it.Twyxx7 wrote:So in this year's playoffs, the CAA did not lose to any team that isn't another CAA team or NDSU. Is it obvious now? No other conference matches the depth of talented teams that the CAA has.
BlackFalkin wrote:None of that means anything unless you win the NC. It literally means nothing. It's actually worse for the CAA that they don't have MORE TITLES. Every year u have a team in the semis and have nothing to show for it since '09??? how I see it, the CAA sucks. (See how annoying that is? So stop it right now)
SuperHornet wrote:We'll just see what you think after EWU takes care of business next week and then beats NDSU for the title....
Of course. You thought TU was going to spend 2 week out west?Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Back to being home for the finals! EWU soon to be 3-0 vs the CAA!
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:CAA will be back home on Sunday
Back to being home for the finals! EWU soon to be 3-0 vs the CAA!
