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Rings matter. Ask Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Fran Tarkenton.

I hate Brady as much or more than anybody, but the dude has done more than Peyton Manning. Plus he's banging Gisele Bündchen tonight.
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93henfan wrote:Rings matter. Ask Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Fran Tarkenton.

I hate Brady as much or more than anybody, but the dude has done more than Peyton Manning. Plus he's banging Gisele Bündchen tonight.
Football...is a team game.

If rings mattered then Roethlisberger and Eli Manning are better than Peyton.
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93henfan wrote:Rings matter. Ask Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Fran Tarkenton.
Yep.....Says those who think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Kelly, Tark, or Marino...

Bradshaw was an average...at best in a good year...QB and has 4. He's better than Brady, Manning, Manning, Favre, etc...?

For his career Bradshaw threw 212 touchdown, 210 interceptions, and had a measly 70.9 rating—not very good at all. He posted one of the worst seasons ever by a QB in 1970, with six touchdowns and 24 interceptions in 13 games. You don't think he rode the shit out of Franco Harris and that defense?

Rothlesburger had 123 yards and 2 interceptions in Super Bowl XL, for a QB rating of 22.6. In two Super Bowls he has a total of 349 yards, one touchdown, and three interceptions. That averages out to 174 yards, .5 touchdowns, and 1.5 interceptions. That's not very good, but he seems to find ways to win. He had the "modern day" version of the Steel Curtain behind him...

Ken Stabler...Ken played 15 seasons in the NFL. In those 15 seasons he only threw more touchdowns than interceptions five times. He had 194 touchdowns and 222 interceptions in his career for a QB rating of 75.3. In his only Super Bowl win he was 12-19 for 180 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

In his career Doug Williams had only 100 touchdowns and 93 interceptions, with a QB rating of 69.4. That is the 3rd lowest career QB rating of any QB who has won a Super Bowl.

Jim Plunkett won Super Bowls 15 and 18, and was the MVP of Super Bowl 15, he threw 13-21, had 261 yards, and three touchdowns. In Super Bowl 18 he threw 16-25, had 172 yards, and one touchdown. In both of his Super Bowl wins Plunkett was out performed by the opposing QB (Jaws, and Thiesman). By the numbers that Plunkett put up over his career, I' m shocked he even had a chance in the playoffs. In his entire career Plunkett threw 164 touchdowns, 198 interceptions, and had the second lowest QB rating of any QB to win a Super Bowl—67.5. In 12 of his 16 seasons Plunkett threw more interceptions than touchdowns.

Jeff Hostetler threw 94 touchdowns, 71 interceptions, and had a QB rating of 80.5—not bad for a backup. That's why he is where he is. He only started 16 games in a season once in his 15 years in the league. However, Simms broke his foot Hoss came in and "Managed Games" while the New York Giants defense led him to the Super Bowl against the Buffalo Bills.

Brad Johnson Johnson completed 18 of 34 passes for 215 yards, with two touchdowns and one interception. The Bucs defense, however, was definitely the reason Brad has a ring. The defense scored 21 of Tampa's 48 points—matching the three touchdowns the offense scored. Brad averaged just 9 TD passes a season for his career...

All Dilfer had to do in his super bowl was not fuck the defense. Dilfer completed 12-26 passes for 153 yards and one touchdown. They joined the Dolphins from Super Bowl VII and the Steelers from Super Bowl IX, as the only three teams not to allow the opposing offense to score a point (the giants had a special teams touchdown). Baltimore's defense, led by Ray Lewis, allowed the Giants to gain only 152 yards. Lewis had 4 sacks and posted 5 turnovers. After the season he became the only QB to win a Super Bowl and be cut by his team directly afterwords. In his career he threw 113 touchdowns, 129 interceptions, and had a QB rating of 70.2.

Joe...fucking...Namath....His career numbers are absolutely awful and his Super Bowl MVP numbers are not much better. In his career Joe had only 173 touchdowns and tossed 220 interceptions. He also has the worst career QB rating by a Super Bowl QB ever, at 65.5. That's not even game manager style, that is horrid. How they beat the Colts is completely beyond me. In the big game Joe completed 17 of 28 passes for 206 yards and no touchdowns or interceptions. If not for the guarantee he would never be recognized as a great QB. Based on his numbers he should not be in the Hall of Fame either. If he really should be in the Hall of Fame, then almost every QB on this list should be a shoe in first ballot Hall member. He only had two seasons with more touchdowns then interceptions.



I'd bet you'd tell me these guys are all as good, if not better than Peyton, Kelly, Tark, Marino, Favre, etc... because "rings"
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93henfan wrote:
I hate Brady as much or more than anybody, but the dude has done more than Peyton Manning. Plus he's banging Gisele Bündchen tonight.
He is clearly the bitch in that relationship...dude is a fucking bitch...and I'm a Michigan fan saying that.
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OH BOY. Some real chicken-shit calls made by the refs in the Seattle/SF game.
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grizzaholic wrote:OH BOY. Some real chicken-shit calls made by the refs in the Seattle/SF game.

Agreed. Let them play.
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clenz wrote:
93henfan wrote:Rings matter. Ask Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, and Fran Tarkenton.
Yep.....Says those who think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Kelly, Tark, or Marino...

Bradshaw was an average...at best in a good year...QB and has 4. He's better than Brady, Manning, Manning, Favre, etc...?

For his career Bradshaw threw 212 touchdown, 210 interceptions, and had a measly 70.9 rating—not very good at all. He posted one of the worst seasons ever by a QB in 1970, with six touchdowns and 24 interceptions in 13 games. You don't think he rode the shit out of Franco Harris and that defense?

Rothlesburger had 123 yards and 2 interceptions in Super Bowl XL, for a QB rating of 22.6. In two Super Bowls he has a total of 349 yards, one touchdown, and three interceptions. That averages out to 174 yards, .5 touchdowns, and 1.5 interceptions. That's not very good, but he seems to find ways to win. He had the "modern day" version of the Steel Curtain behind him...

Ken Stabler...Ken played 15 seasons in the NFL. In those 15 seasons he only threw more touchdowns than interceptions five times. He had 194 touchdowns and 222 interceptions in his career for a QB rating of 75.3. In his only Super Bowl win he was 12-19 for 180 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

In his career Doug Williams had only 100 touchdowns and 93 interceptions, with a QB rating of 69.4. That is the 3rd lowest career QB rating of any QB who has won a Super Bowl.

Jim Plunkett won Super Bowls 15 and 18, and was the MVP of Super Bowl 15, he threw 13-21, had 261 yards, and three touchdowns. In Super Bowl 18 he threw 16-25, had 172 yards, and one touchdown. In both of his Super Bowl wins Plunkett was out performed by the opposing QB (Jaws, and Thiesman). By the numbers that Plunkett put up over his career, I' m shocked he even had a chance in the playoffs. In his entire career Plunkett threw 164 touchdowns, 198 interceptions, and had the second lowest QB rating of any QB to win a Super Bowl—67.5. In 12 of his 16 seasons Plunkett threw more interceptions than touchdowns.

Jeff Hostetler threw 94 touchdowns, 71 interceptions, and had a QB rating of 80.5—not bad for a backup. That's why he is where he is. He only started 16 games in a season once in his 15 years in the league. However, Simms broke his foot Hoss came in and "Managed Games" while the New York Giants defense led him to the Super Bowl against the Buffalo Bills.

Brad Johnson Johnson completed 18 of 34 passes for 215 yards, with two touchdowns and one interception. The Bucs defense, however, was definitely the reason Brad has a ring. The defense scored 21 of Tampa's 48 points—matching the three touchdowns the offense scored. Brad averaged just 9 TD passes a season for his career...

All Dilfer had to do in his super bowl was not fuck the defense. Dilfer completed 12-26 passes for 153 yards and one touchdown. They joined the Dolphins from Super Bowl VII and the Steelers from Super Bowl IX, as the only three teams not to allow the opposing offense to score a point (the giants had a special teams touchdown). Baltimore's defense, led by Ray Lewis, allowed the Giants to gain only 152 yards. Lewis had 4 sacks and posted 5 turnovers. After the season he became the only QB to win a Super Bowl and be cut by his team directly afterwords. In his career he threw 113 touchdowns, 129 interceptions, and had a QB rating of 70.2.

Joe...fucking...Namath....His career numbers are absolutely awful and his Super Bowl MVP numbers are not much better. In his career Joe had only 173 touchdowns and tossed 220 interceptions. He also has the worst career QB rating by a Super Bowl QB ever, at 65.5. That's not even game manager style, that is horrid. How they beat the Colts is completely beyond me. In the big game Joe completed 17 of 28 passes for 206 yards and no touchdowns or interceptions. If not for the guarantee he would never be recognized as a great QB. Based on his numbers he should not be in the Hall of Fame either. If he really should be in the Hall of Fame, then almost every QB on this list should be a shoe in first ballot Hall member. He only had two seasons with more touchdowns then interceptions.



I'd bet you'd tell me these guys are all as good, if not better than Peyton, Kelly, Tark, Marino, Favre, etc... because "rings"
This is an absolutely hilarious argument coming from the guy who CONSTANTLY chastises me for relying on statistics to determine who are the better baseball players in the game. Moreso than probably any other professional sport (other than maybe hockey) The NFL (as it exists today) isn't even fucking recognizable from the game Namath, Bradshaw, Plunkett, Stabler, et al., played. What the defenses could do then compared to the way they're handcuffed now makes it almost comical to compare statistics (especially passing statistics) from these vastly different eras. If you want a guy who puts up Madden XBox-like #'s, take Peyton, Marino, Farve, etc. If you want a guy who wins Super Bowls (which is kind of the point, no?) take Bradshaw, Montana, Plunkett, etc.
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Sure would be nice if the announcers just suck off Seattle right now. Their constant blathering about them and their bias is really showing.
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That Chancellor dude is a BEAST. He's as big as a LB, yet ran down Kaepernick on that long run of his and then lays a lick on Davis like a DE, yet he plays SAFETY.
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Seattle's LT has been getting destroyed all game.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Seattle's LT has been getting destroyed all game.
:lol: Meh...mostly on blitzes....Hard to block 6 with 5 guys.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Seahawks 27
Knifers 17
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Seahawks 27
Knifers 17
:coffee:
Niners 24
Seahawks 23

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Seattle's LT has been getting destroyed all game.
:lol: Meh...mostly on blitzes....Hard to block 6 with 5 guys.
Huh? I've been seeing guys blow by him on 1-on-1 matchups numerous times.
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Big bullshit call right there. SF should have the ball on the 1.
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Was it REALLY necessary to show that play 37 times?
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: Meh...mostly on blitzes....Hard to block 6 with 5 guys.
Huh? I've been seeing guys blow by him on 1-on-1 matchups numerous times.
These defenses have speed to burn, no doubt.
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Bad break for SF. If they'd ruled him down, it would be reviewable. But they apparently can't review who gains possession of a fumble.
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Good. At least all was righted.
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I'm a neutral observer, but even before that call, the officiating in this game has been downright bad.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Bad break for SF. If they'd ruled him down, it would be reviewable. But they apparently can't review who gains possession of a fumble.
Never mind. It ends up a better outcome for them in the end anyway. :lol:
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∞∞∞ wrote:I'm a neutral observer, but even before that call, the officiating in this game has been downright bad.
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Whoever wins this game isn't going to have any starters left for the Super Bowl.
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What in the FUCK was CK looking at there?
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