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NCAA poised to create separate voting bloc for
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SAN DIEGO – The big leagues appear poised to get their way and their own voting bloc within the NCAA.

Polling of the roughly 800 administrators at the NCAA convention's dialog on governance revealed solid support for an autonomous voting body for the five most powerful conferences – the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 and Big 12. Fifty-eight percent of those administrators – from all levels of NCAA membership – were in support of autonomy for the power conferences; 30 percent were opposed; 12 percent were neutral.

To NCAA president Mark Emmert, that's a significant change in outlook.

"It makes sense for the five big revenue conferences to have their own voice," Emmert told Yahoo Sports Friday. "A year ago that would have been a very difficult conversation. Now [member schools] are saying, 'Yeah, that makes sense.' … People have just become more comfortable with the ideas and concepts of it.' "

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Ain't THAT the truth.

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It does make sense. What we have now is a bunch of college football parasites dictating things for the institutions that generate the overwhelming preponderance of the money and the interest.

Seriously. Why should Louisiana-Lafayette get to vote on what happens with LSU? Screw that.
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I think a more appropriate logo would include an upside down 5 pointed star with a goat's head and/or flames.
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So, the revenue producers get to keep their money and don't have to share it with those who are less fortunate? :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote:So, the revenue producers get to keep their money and don't have to share it with those who are less fortunate? :coffee:
guess that makes them evil :suspicious:
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Welcome to FCS Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion, Idaho, UMass, and others! :D
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93henfan wrote:Welcome to FCS Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion, Idaho, UMass, and others! :D

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UNI88 wrote:I think a more appropriate logo would include an upside down 5 pointed star with a goat's head and/or flames.
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93henfan wrote:Welcome to FCS Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion, Idaho, UMass, and others! :D
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This NCAA offseason will center on the high-resource conferences — dubbed the ‘Power Five’ — and how that group will likely either form a new division or be granted autonomy. The Big Ten, the Atlantic Coast, the Big 12, the Pac 12 and the Southeastern Conference want to shape their own rules.

How severe is the fallout?
Could it even be a blessing in disguise?

The Power Five separating from the pack could create a regrouping of Division I, in which the top quadrant of the FCS and the bottom quadrant of the FBS become intertwined. For example, according to USA Today, the budget of Texas is more than $165 million, while the budget of fellow FBS member Ball State is about $21 million and FCS member North Dakota is about $22 million.

GROUP of FIVE CONFERENCES
MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA, American AC, Mountain West

FCS CONFERENCES
CAA, Big South, Southland, Big Sky, Southern, Ivy, Patriot, MEAC, SWAC, MVFC, OVC, Northeast, Pioneer

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EPJr wrote:
Fallout From Autonomy Movement
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This NCAA offseason will center on the high-resource conferences — dubbed the ‘Power Five’ — and how that group will likely either form a new division or be granted autonomy. The Big Ten, the Atlantic Coast, the Big 12, the Pac 12 and the Southeastern Conference want to shape their own rules.

How severe is the fallout?
Could it even be a blessing in disguise?

The Power Five separating from the pack could create a regrouping of Division I, in which the top quadrant of the FCS and the bottom quadrant of the FBS become intertwined. For example, according to USA Today, the budget of Texas is more than $165 million, while the budget of fellow FBS member Ball State is about $21 million and FCS member North Dakota is about $22 million.

GROUP of FIVE CONFERENCES
MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA, American AC, Mountain West

FCS CONFERENCES
CAA, Big South, Southland, Big Sky, Southern, Ivy, Patriot, MEAC, SWAC, MVFC, OVC, Northeast, Pioneer

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Wow. Didn't see this coming at all. :coffee:
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Could happen, but the G5 won't want it to happen now. They will want their past investments in trying to keep up ( :lol: :lol: :lol: ) with the P5 to mean something. How pissed would you be if you are say...Texas State or App State who just ponied up money to get to FBS compliance only to have the rug pulled out from under you.

Also there is the whole pride and ego thing of "playing with the big boys" that those G5 folks won't be able to let go of.
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The NCAA has to do something to reign in the top 5 conferences or they will completely leave town and they won't get anything from them.
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No they won’t leave. The P5 doesn’t want to foot the bill for the money losing Oly sport championships and all the travel, room and board, logistic, administrative costs that come with it (NCAA currently picks up the tab). With autonomy, the P5 can pocket 95% of the playoff monies for themselves on top of their lucrative MBB payouts. Autonomy is the best case scenario for them.
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Gosh, I don't know. You would think with the conferences having their own tv networks and all the bowl games they can get that they would be able to pick up any tab they want.
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Why would they spend their money when they can spend the NCAA’s? No brainer decision.

Autonomy is official:
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The NCAA Division I board of directors on Thursday voted to allow the 65 schools in the top five conferences to write many of their own rules. The autonomy measures -- which the power conferences had all but demanded -- will permit those leagues to decide on things such as cost-of-attendance stipends and insurance benefits for players, staff sizes, recruiting rules and mandatory hours spent on individual sports.
And something to look forward to in the near future:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -schedules

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One step closer to ending the farce that is "amateurism" in major college sports :nod:
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INDIANAPOLIS | The NCAA Board of Directors overwhelmingly approved a package of historic reforms Thursday that will give the nation's five biggest conferences the ability to unilaterally change some of the basic rules governing college sports.

If the 16-2 decision stands, there will be striking differences between the 65 largest schools and the more than 280 others in Division I beginning as early as Oct. 1, though few expect change to come that quickly.

Representatives from the five richest leagues — the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC — will hold nearly twice as much voting power (37.5 percent) as any other group on a newly created council, where most legislation will be approved or rejected. The five other Football Bowl Subdivision leagues would account for 18.5 percent while the second-tier Football Championship Subdivision and non-football playing schools would split up another 37.5 percent of the vote. Athletes and faculty will account for the rest.

Commissioners and school leaders from the power conferences have until Oct. 1 to create a wish list of issues they want to handle on their own.


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It's not the autonomy that the G5 fears. If you look at how the vote distributions are changed, the FCS lost power, the P5 picked up power, and the G5 stays the same and would be the swing vote on any issue where the P5 would vote one way and the FCS another. The real danger to the G5 is the possibility of P5 teams going to a policy of having only P5 schedules. The question is how realistic is that? Good luck getting the Purdues, Kentuckys, Vanderbilts, and Indianas to agree to give up an easy win to count towards bowl eligibility.

Oh, and there's no chance in hell that the G5 will merge with the FCS. The more realistic scenario is that we get another subdivision that will consist of the current G5s and the Montanas, NDSUs, Delawares, and JMUs that are willing to jump up to another level of scholarships. The G5 would essentially become the new IAA/FCS.
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Pwns wrote:It's not the autonomy that the G5 fears. If you look at how the vote distributions are changed, the FCS lost power, the P5 picked up power, and the G5 stays the same and would be the swing vote on any issue where the P5 would vote one way and the FCS another. The real danger to the G5 is the possibility of P5 teams going to a policy of having only P5 schedules. The question is how realistic is that? Good luck getting the Purdues, Kentuckys, Vanderbilts, and Indianas to agree to give up an easy win to count towards bowl eligibility.

Oh, and there's no chance in hell that the G5 will merge with the FCS. The more realistic scenario is that we get another subdivision that will consist of the current G5s and the Montanas, NDSUs, Delawares, and JMUs that are willing to jump up to another level of scholarships. The G5 would essentially become the new IAA/FCS.
I think this is what people mean when they reference a "merge" of G5 and top tier FCS...at least that is my interpretation. G5 won't "move down" to FCS even though the G5 will basically become an entity similar to the FCS over time.
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