Majority of Americans Support Legalization of Pot

[89Hen]

You've never seen me say pot shouldn't be legal. I just see a lot more problems with it being legal than several of you.

Fair enough. Like Ibanez said, at least now we can see how it works out in two fairly populous states and go from there.

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

[89Hen]

here is no good reason Marijana should NOT be legal for adults
There is no good reason guns should NOT be legal for adults
It's about RIGHTS

We aren't going to agree on this one Cleets. Guns can be used for protection, both from other pepole and from the government. Pot is recreational unless you have a legit medical need. They are similiar, yet entirely different. I really can't believe you are digging your feet in on this one.

[Ibanez]

Said it before...pot's worse than booze...

...in excess, both destroy families and lives...

...difference is...the drunk wakes up and asks, "What am I doing?"...

...the stoner wakes up and asks, "Where's my pipe?"

Denial and rationalization is much worse for pot abusers.

This past Monday, I spoke with an old friend who confided his house is in foreclosure...

...he spends almost $500/mo on pot. When I suggested he reform himself and stop getting high, he replied, "No...I NEED pot to maintain."

At 54 yrs (divorced, empty nester), he'll be moving in with his 70's parents next month.

Weak

****

Die

Young

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Who the hell does Bill Mahr influence?

[Ibanez]

Fair enough. Like Ibanez said, at least now we can see how it works out in two fairly populous states and go from there.

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

So you're saying we need an EC(b) state to man up and legalize it? I agree.

However, these two states are going to a lot of work in creating the legal atmosphere before other states start joining in. South Carolina, Maine, Texas, California are going to look at the legal troubles (or lack thereof), the tax implications and the overall effects on society. Marijuana related stats will help other states and eventually the Federal Gov't make the right choice and end this prohibition on weed.

[CAA Flagship]

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Marijuana laws spark buzz among brewers

[89Hen]

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

So you're saying we need an EC(b) state to man up and legalize it? I agree.

Yup.

[bandl]

So you're saying we need an EC(b) state to man up and legalize it? I agree.

Yup.

Me'erland might be moving in that direction.

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[Grizalltheway]

Fair enough. Like Ibanez said, at least now we can see how it works out in two fairly populous states and go from there.

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

What about New England?

[bandl]

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

What about New England?

Or Quebec?

[Ibanez]

I'm not sure CO and WA are the best test for anything east of the Mississippi.

What about New England?

I think a NE state would legalize it before a puritanical southern state. Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island or Massachusetts will legalize it before the former CSA does.

[89Hen]

Yup.

Me'erland might be moving in that direction.

Wouldn't surprise me. O'Smelly doesn't like other states grabbing all the headlines. He's all about the spotlight.

[89Hen]

What about New England?

I think a NE state would legalize it before a puritanical southern state.

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

[Grizalltheway]

What about New England?

Or Quebec?

That's not a thing.

[Ibanez]

I think a NE state would legalize it before a puritanical southern state.

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

So who is?

[Grizalltheway]

I think a NE state would legalize it before a puritanical southern state.

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

You said that Washington and Colorado aren't good tests for anything east of the Mississippi...

[Ibanez]

Florida, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Missouri, Minnesota, Tennessee and West Virginia all have legislation pending the approval of medical marijuana, so there are 10 states that probably aren't any closer. So with those 10, and the 2 legal states out of question, we have 38 states with a chance. I'll count out SC b/c we're getting close, but a recent poll shows the favorable/unfavorable at 49%-51%. I hear Alaska and Oregon have a great chance of approving recreational weed in the near future.

[89Hen]

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

So who is?

Seriously? You think Vermont would be a good sample?

Vermont
Population = 600,000
Percent Whte = 94%
Homeownership rate = 71%
Persons per square mile = 67
Largest city = Burlington (40k)

[Ibanez]

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

You said that Washington and Colorado aren't good tests for anything east of the Mississippi...

I'm thinking Virginia or Maryland are going to be his answer.

[89Hen]

Yeah, but it would be Vermont, which again is not a great sample for the rest of the country.

You said that Washington and Colorado aren't good tests for anything east of the Mississippi...

Yes and neither is Vermont. Ones that would be good tests IMO: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, Virginia, NC, SC, GA, FL.... c'mon guys. You're wasting bandwidth.

[Ibanez]

So who is?

Seriously? You think Vermont would be a good sample?

Vermont
Population = 600,000
Percent Whte = 94%
Homeownership rate = 71%
Persons per square mile = 67
Largest city = Burlington (40k)

I didn't say that. I just said they're more likely to legalize. Get a grip. You keep saying this state or that state are a good example without saying who you think is a good example.

[Grizalltheway]

So who is?

Seriously? You think Vermont would be a good sample?

Vermont
Population = 600,000
Percent Whte = 94%
Homeownership rate = 71%
Persons per square mile = 67
Largest city = Burlington (40k)

Washington has almost 7 million people and Colorado has 5 million. Now who's wasting bandwidth?

[kalm]

Florida, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Missouri, Minnesota, Tennessee and West Virginia all have legislation pending the approval of medical marijuana, so there are 10 states that probably aren't any closer. So with those 10, and the 2 legal states out of question, we have 38 states with a chance. I'll count out SC b/c we're getting close, but a recent poll shows the favorable/unfavorable at 49%-51%. I hear Alaska and Oregon have a great chance of approving recreational weed in the near future.

Oregon, or at least Portland decriminalized weed decades ago...and look at all the chaos....

[andy7171]

It's a tax boom. Maryland is all over it. It would certainly make quitting drinking easier.

[Ibanez]

You said that Washington and Colorado aren't good tests for anything east of the Mississippi...

Yes and neither is Vermont. Ones that would be good tests IMO: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, Virginia, NC, SC, GA, FL.... c'mon guys. You're wasting bandwidth.

SC is years away as is Florida, Ohio and New York. Massachusetts has the best chance among those listed. The following states including DC have introduced legislation to legalize it: Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Vermont. I bolded the only one you mentioned.

Vermont has a high rate of pot users.



From what I've read over the last few months, Alaska will most likely be the next to legalize it followed by either Vermont or Oregon. You might not think it's a good sample, and that's your opinion, but only one of the states you've listed has a real shot in the coming year or two.

[Ibanez]

It's a tax boom. Maryland is all over it. It would certainly make quitting drinking easier.

It's a great source of revenue, much like alcohol was before the income tax.