L.P.D: Libertarian Police Department

[kalm]

Who is trying to abolish those programs?

I was thinking the same thing.

I hear a lot of noise about farm programs being welfare for rich big farmers (they are) but that noise tends to come from the left when they are making arguments based in moral equivalency.

Where's the hue and cry to abolish Soc Sec, labor laws, or unemployment insurance?

Not sure if serious...

[YoUDeeMan]

Smart Republicans used to realize this.

One thing that smart Democrats learned quickly. Giving somebody something for nothing is an excellent way to gain their loyalty.

You are on a roll!

Michigan should be proud of its newest citizen!

[VictorG]

Now if they could just take over Wall Street and the commodities market!

You don't think they're already running those? [/quote]

No, IMO the Central Banks are mostly about "cash or currency" ...It's the unscrupulous billionaires and above that manipulate (legally too in many cases) the markets. They have so much money they can cause serious movements in the markets just by what they themselves do.

[CID1990]

I was thinking the same thing.

I hear a lot of noise about farm programs being welfare for rich big farmers (they are) but that noise tends to come from the left when they are making arguments based in moral equivalency.

Where's the hue and cry to abolish Soc Sec, labor laws, or unemployment insurance?

Not sure if serious...

That's right, I'm not sure if they're serious, either

Can you find me a serious politician calling for the abolition of social security?

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[kalm]

Not sure if serious...

That's right, I'm not sure if they're serious, either

Can you find me a serious politician calling for the abolition of social security?

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No, politicians lack the stones to admit it publicly just like you'll have a hard time finding a serious politician calling for the abolition of guns. But it's there none the less. You don't think Wall Street and libertarians would love to privatize it?

[DSUrocks07]

Not sure if serious...

That's right, I'm not sure if they're serious, either

Can you find me a serious politician calling for the abolition of social security?

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The Libertarian boogeymen are coming to get them!



And they say only conks rule by fear.

[kalm]

That's right, I'm not sure if they're serious, either

Can you find me a serious politician calling for the abolition of social security?

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The Libertarian boogeymen are coming to get them!



And they say only conks rule by fear.

[kalm]

[DSUrocks07]

Better than a current fire department, who appears have to go through the bureaucracy to even leave the station.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/30/us/firefi ... dying-man/





"Sorry ma'am, you know the rules, you have to call 911 first."

[CID1990]

Klam's original assertion that somehow conservatives want to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and labor laws is a smoking hole in the ground


so he's resorting to internet memes and hyperbole

But kudos for the roundabout mea culpa on "oh I know what they THINK, but they won't admit it publicly"

Nice job

[kalm]

Klam's original assertion that somehow conservatives want to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and labor laws is a smoking hole in the ground

[Ivytalk]

The New Yorker is the type of rag that Upper East Side hedge fund housewives keep on their coffee tables to show how sophisticated/empathetic/culturally trendy they are. That said, the cartoons used to be pretty good.

The piece is a gross caricature of how a liberal thinks a libertarian should act and think. Bet the author has never read an issue of Reason.

[kalm]

The New Yorker is the type of rag that Upper East Side hedge fund housewives keep on their coffee tables to show how sophisticated/empathetic/culturally trendy they are. That said, the cartoons used to be pretty good.

The piece is a gross caricature of how a liberal thinks a libertarian should act and think. Bet the author has never read an issue of Reason.

I read Reason on a regular basis and it's a fun caricature.

[AZGrizFan]

That's right, I'm not sure if they're serious, either

Can you find me a serious politician calling for the abolition of social security?

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No, politicians lack the stones to admit it publicly just like you'll have a hard time finding a serious politician calling for the abolition of guns. But it's there none the less. You don't think Wall Street and libertarians would love to privatize it?

A) gun "control" is a completely different animal, please don't try to compare the two or use this red herring to divert the argument
2) Why are you now changing the argument? There's a HUGE, VAST gulf of difference between "abolish" and "privatize"...or are you still looking for a politician calling for the abolishment of those programs?

[JohnStOnge]

Another mischaracterization of what Libertarianism is.

[kalm]

No, politicians lack the stones to admit it publicly just like you'll have a hard time finding a serious politician calling for the abolition of guns. But it's there none the less. You don't think Wall Street and libertarians would love to privatize it?

A) gun "control" is a completely different animal, please don't try to compare the two or use this red herring to divert the argument
2) Why are you now changing the argument? There's a HUGE, VAST gulf of difference between "abolish" and "privatize"...or are you still looking for a politician calling for the abolishment of those programs?

It was an analogy. Conks bleat incessantly, the ideology of FDR was the worst/ponzi scheme/limited government but yeah...no one really wants to abolish it.

"We don't want to abolish SS we just want to privatize it to the point where it can be drown in a bathtub... Or something like that. It's TOTALLY different I'm sure.

[kalm]

Another mischaracterization of what Libertarianism is.

...Said the captain of liberal/egalitarian mischaracterizations...

[AZGrizFan]

A) gun "control" is a completely different animal, please don't try to compare the two or use this red herring to divert the argument
2) Why are you now changing the argument? There's a HUGE, VAST gulf of difference between "abolish" and "privatize"...or are you still looking for a politician calling for the abolishment of those programs?

It was an analogy. Conks bleat incessantly, the ideology of FDR was the worst/ponzi scheme/limited government but yeah...no one really wants to abolish it.

"We don't want to abolish SS we just want to privatize it to the point where it can be drown in a bathtub... Or something like that. It's TOTALLY different I'm sure.

It WAS the worst policy, it IS a Ponzi scheme, but you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. At this point, we can only hope to contain it to the point where it's not contributing to our demise.

[kalm]

It was an analogy. Conks bleat incessantly, the ideology of FDR was the worst/ponzi scheme/limited government but yeah...no one really wants to abolish it.

"We don't want to abolish SS we just want to privatize it to the point where it can be drown in a bathtub... Or something like that. It's TOTALLY different I'm sure.

It WAS the worst policy, it IS a Ponzi scheme, but you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. At this point, we can only hope to contain it to the point where it's not contributing to our demise.

Like I said…conks WANT to abolish it, but lack the balls to say so.

[∞∞∞]

Libertarians aren't fighting the other parties as much as they're fighting how the human brain is wired. Face it, we're a species that likes to dictate our beliefs against each other. People at their core like rules and order; it's simply in our nature. There might be a rising tide for Libertarianism because hating the government is the cool thing right now, but I don't believe it's a philosophy that works in the long-run. It probably would've taken root at some point in human history by now if it was feasible.

[AZGrizFan]

It WAS the worst policy, it IS a Ponzi scheme, but you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. At this point, we can only hope to contain it to the point where it's not contributing to our demise.

Like I said…conks WANT to abolish it, but lack the balls to say so.

I give up. If by "lacking the balls to say so" you mean they understand that abolishing those programs would cause anarchy and isn't a financially viable alternative then, yes, they "lack the balls".

[kalm]

Like I said…conks WANT to abolish it, but lack the balls to say so.

I give up. If by "lacking the balls to say so" you mean they understand that abolishing those programs would cause anarchy and isn't a financially viable alternative then, yes, they "lack the balls".

Apology accepted.

[AZGrizFan]

I give up. If by "lacking the balls to say so" you mean they understand that abolishing those programs would cause anarchy and isn't a financially viable alternative then, yes, they "lack the balls".

Apology accepted.

You suck.

[kalm]

Apology accepted.

You suck.

You and I agree on more than you think. I'd buy you many BL's right now if I could.

[AZGrizFan]

You suck.

You and I agree on more than you think. I'd buy you many BL's right now if I could.

Well HELL, why didn't you say so earlier? I'll be over in 10.