Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Political discussions
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

kalm wrote:Image
The Redskins logo was not one of the things stripped from Snyder's team. Looks like we may have some legal issues here. ;)
Image
User avatar
bluehenbillk
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7660
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:26 am
I am a fan of: elaware
Location: East Coast/Hawaii

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by bluehenbillk »

Personally, with their decades of inept play I find the Buffalo Bills nickname to be disparaging and prejudicial.
Make Delaware Football Great Again
User avatar
TheDancinMonarch
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 4779
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:23 pm
I am a fan of: Old Dominion
Location: Norfolk VA

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by TheDancinMonarch »

bluehenbillk wrote:Personally, with their decades of inept play I find the Buffalo Bills nickname to be disparaging and prejudicial.
:lol:
Image
User avatar
JMU DJ
Level4
Level4
Posts: 6263
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: Leeeeeeroy Jeeeenkins

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by JMU DJ »

89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:Image
The Redskins logo was not one of the things stripped from Snyder's team. Looks like we may have some legal issues here. ;)
I do know that the Redskins logo was created by a native American (Wetzel? Think that was the name I read earlier... somewhere). So there's that.

Also, this beer is disrespectful to us Marmots!
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 36317
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by BDKJMU »

89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:So for 82 years the Patent and Trademark Office didn't have a problem with the name, and now all of a sudden they do? :suspicious:
So you're saying it's bad to change a position or thought on something?
Well DC is the land of flip flopping...
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 69077
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by kalm »

BDKJMU wrote:
89Hen wrote: So you're saying it's bad to change a position or thought on something?
Well DC is the land of flip flopping...
Changing your position (even if it's the right thing to do) is for unprincipled, wishy washy, liberal pussies! :ohno:
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
andy7171
Firefly
Firefly
Posts: 27951
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am
I am a fan of: Wiping.
A.K.A.: HE HATE ME
Location: Eastern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by andy7171 »

grizzaholic wrote:
89Hen wrote: Please give other examples of truly offensive names.
God. Walk down your micro brew row at your local grocery store and just pick one out.

I always thought of you as a smart fella, guess I was badly mistaken.
Again. He's an eagles fan living in Metro DC. He's loving this controversy. Just wait until DeSean catches his first TD vs Philthy.
"Elaine, you're from Baltimore, right?"
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
User avatar
dbackjon
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 45627
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 am
I am a fan of: Northern Arizona
A.K.A.: He/Him
Location: Scottsdale

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by dbackjon »

89Hen wrote:Anyone who doesn't see a difference between Redskins and any other name is a jackass.

:nod: :nod: :nod:


Or in denial,
Or trying to be hip and ironic and failing
:thumb:
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 69077
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by kalm »

dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote:Anyone who doesn't see a difference between Redskins and any other name is a jackass.

:nod: :nod: :nod:


Or in denial,
Or trying to be hip and ironic and failing
Sure. But do you want the government defining what is and what isn't porn?
Image
Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 69077
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by kalm »

I think 89 might find this agreeable.
Washington, D.C., anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist, who has been on a long campaign to name pretty much everything after Ronald Reagan, said renaming Washington’s football team the “Washington Reagans” is a “great idea.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... g-redskins" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Image
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

andy7171 wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
God. Walk down your micro brew row at your local grocery store and just pick one out.

I always thought of you as a smart fella, guess I was badly mistaken.
Again. He's an eagles fan living in Metro DC. He's loving this controversy. Just wait until DeSean catches his first TD vs Philthy.
I don't give a rats ass if they were called the Greasy Wops and their mascot was a guy in a wife beater. And if DeSean catches a TD against the Eagles, I guess the Skins may actually cover once and not lose by 30.
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

kalm wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

:nod: :nod: :nod:


Or in denial,
Or trying to be hip and ironic and failing
Sure. But do you want the government defining what is and what isn't porn?
They already do.

http://www.mpaa.org/film-ratings/
Image
User avatar
JMU DJ
Level4
Level4
Posts: 6263
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: Leeeeeeroy Jeeeenkins

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by JMU DJ »

kalm wrote:I think 89 might find this agreeable.
Washington, D.C., anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist, who has been on a long campaign to name pretty much everything after Ronald Reagan, said renaming Washington’s football team the “Washington Reagans” is a “great idea.”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... g-redskins" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Image
What 89 might also find interesting (and may become Portugal's new #1 fan as a result) is that the best (arguable) player in the world was named after former President Ronald Reagan.
Asked about how his parents came to name him, former Manchester United star Ronaldo told AS: "Ronaldo was because my mother was always an admirer of Ronald Reagan, who was president of the United States, and wanted to give me his name as a gesture of admiration for him.
Image
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

So I'm being labelled a bleeding heart liberal and a conservative all in one thread. 8-)
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

The Redskins franchise will make TONS of money by changing their name, as long as they pick something good. I don't think they will get rid of the burgundy and gold, but if it were my team, I'd consider RWB like the rest of DC's teams. Lots of Skins fans actually hate the colors anyway (I think Andy is in that camp), or at least hate when they wear yellow pants and burgundy shirts (I actually prefer that combo).

One name that was thrown about for at least a little while was "Red Tails" named after the Tuskeegee Airmen. Kinda meh on that, but it's better than Wizards.

Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 69077
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by kalm »

JMU DJ wrote:
kalm wrote:I think 89 might find this agreeable.



http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... g-redskins" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Image
What 89 might also find interesting (and may become Portugal's new #1 fan as a result) is that the best (arguable) player in the world was named after former President Ronald Reagan.
Asked about how his parents came to name him, former Manchester United star Ronaldo told AS: "Ronaldo was because my mother was always an admirer of Ronald Reagan, who was president of the United States, and wanted to give me his name as a gesture of admiration for him.
Image
Well Ronaldo's mom was a dumb Portuguese whore!
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by CID1990 »

Who said they should be named the Foreskins because DC is full of dickheads?

That one gets my vote
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
User avatar
Skjellyfetti
Anal
Anal
Posts: 14681
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by Skjellyfetti »

CID1990 wrote:Who said they should be named the Foreskins because DC is full of dickheads?
Says the State Department employee.

Psst. You are one of the dickheads. :coffee:
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 36317
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by BDKJMU »

We've been down this road before. 2009:

"Court rejects appeal over Redskins trademark

...U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal from Native Americans calling the pro club's trademark "disparaging."

At issue was whether plaintiffs were decades too late in filing a lawsuit, or whether that registered trademark should have been denied years ago since as plaintiffs claim " 'redskins' is today and has been historically a disparaging racial epithet that brings them into contempt, ridicule, and disrepute."

The legal dispute is over what's called the doctrine of laches -- negligence or delay in asserting a claim.

The justices without comment refused to intervene in the dispute, effectively ending the suit.

A lawsuit was first filed in 1992. Among the plaintiffs is Suzan Shown Harjo of Washington, a Cheyenne/Hodulgee Muscogee and a longtime advocate for Native American rights.

The Redskins name and logo was adopted in 1933 when the team was based in Boston, Massachusetts, and had been known as the Braves. In a legal brief filed with the court, the team said the name was changed to honor the Redskins coach at the time, William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, a Native American.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted a formal trademark in 1967, and it has been renewed several times since. The team has said it has spent "millions of dollars ... promoting, advertising, and protecting its mark."
A Patent Office appeals board in 1999 canceled the trademarks, but the Redskins successfully appealed in federal court.

The question for the courts was interpretation of a federal law that allows cancellation of a registration "at any time" if the trademark comprises "matter which may disparage ... persons, living or dead ... or bring them into contempt, or disrepute."

A federal appeals court ultimately decided that the law's protections did not apply in this case and that the suit was filed too late. Native Americans have said the trademark should never have been granted in the first place....."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/16/sco ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
User avatar
andy7171
Firefly
Firefly
Posts: 27951
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am
I am a fan of: Wiping.
A.K.A.: HE HATE ME
Location: Eastern Palouse

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by andy7171 »

Secretly I hope they do change the name. Because the team is fucked until Danny boys son dies as the owner. Assuming he never fathers a child. Either way I'll be long gone. I dropped rooting for the bullets when they folded to the PC crowd.
"Elaine, you're from Baltimore, right?"
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by CID1990 »

Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Who said they should be named the Foreskins because DC is full of dickheads?
Says the State Department employee.

Psst. You are one of the dickheads. :coffee:
you have no clue, sweetheart

I have never, nor will I ever serve in DC
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
JoltinJoe
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7050
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:42 pm

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by JoltinJoe »

BDKJMU wrote: A Patent Office appeals board in 1999 canceled the trademarks, but the Redskins successfully appealed in federal court.

The question for the courts was interpretation of a federal law that allows cancellation of a registration "at any time" if the trademark comprises "matter which may disparage ... persons, living or dead ... or bring them into contempt, or disrepute."

A federal appeals court ultimately decided that the law's protections did not apply in this case and that the suit was filed too late. Native Americans have said the trademark should never have been granted in the first place....."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/16/sco ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The new challenge was filed in 2006 by some very young petitioners -- much younger than the original petitioners -- who are trying to argue that their petition could not have been brought earlier because of their age.
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by JohnStOnge »

It's really bad to have the national government into controlling thought to this extent.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39283
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by 89Hen »

JohnStOnge wrote:It's really bad to have the national government into controlling thought to this extent.
Feds didn't say they had to change their name.
Image
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Redskins stripped of trademarks:

Post by JohnStOnge »

89Hen wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:It's really bad to have the national government into controlling thought to this extent.
Feds didn't say they had to change their name.
Yes I know. But this is still a thought control effort.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
Post Reply