US SOCCER

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:24 pm

Loved the goal celebration today from France when that Tyrion guy jumped on the back of the really tall guy.

First thing I thought was "Who Rules Bartertown? Master Blaster rules Bartertown!"

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:10 pm

haha. love that guy.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:24 am

tribe_pride wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
I would expect the US to look more diverse being the big melting pot and all. Not so with the other continents. Seeing about half the US team is either foreign born and/or to a foreign parent(s) is surprising. When have you ever seen that before in an Olympic team sport? Hockey maybe?
It's just under 1/3 of the team (roster is 23 players) who were foreign born (the fact that someone has foreign parents is not a big deal if they were born and grew up in the US) and only 2 of them started while 2 others came off the bench.

Ok, I was counting 11 foreign born and/or foreign parents. The thing that astounds me is the 5 with a German mother. Probably a 10th or 100th of 1%, or some minute fraction of the US population, was born Germany to a German parent, yet 4 players on the US team were + a 5th to a German parent in the US. The odds of that happening to an national or pro US sports team has to be infinitesimally small, and on top of that you have the US in the same group as Germany.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:19 am

BDKJMU wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
It's just under 1/3 of the team (roster is 23 players) who were foreign born (the fact that someone has foreign parents is not a big deal if they were born and grew up in the US) and only 2 of them started while 2 others came off the bench.
Ok, I was counting 11 foreign born and/or foreign parents. The thing that astounds me is the 5 with a German mother. Probably a 10th or 100th of 1%, or some minute fraction of the US population, was born Germany to a German parent, yet 4 players on the US team were + a 5th to a German parent in the US. The odds of that happening to an national or pro US sports team has to be infinitesimally small, and on top of that you have the US in the same group as Germany.

And a coach who is German - I think that may have helped.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:42 am

clenz wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:France takes 3-0 lead at 40 minute mark and the announcers said "that should be the fatal blow".
It's sad that the game is considered over with 50+ minutes left.
No different than a NFL game getting to 21 or 24 zero before half.

There might be some a couple scores from the other team but the game is over 99% of the time

Flaggy understated this particular aspect. I have most definitely seen games where a team scores to go up 1-0 with 35 minutes left and they say something similar. College basketball put in a shot clock for a reason. Honest question, is there another timed sport where you can stall as much as soccer?

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:48 am

89Hen wrote:
clenz wrote: No different than a NFL game getting to 21 or 24 zero before half.

There might be some a couple scores from the other team but the game is over 99% of the time
Flaggy understated this particular aspect. I have most definitely seen games where a team scores to go up 1-0 with 35 minutes left and they say something similar. College basketball put in a shot clock for a reason. Honest question, is there another timed sport where you can stall as much as soccer?

Lacrosse needs a shot clock.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:50 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
89Hen wrote: Flaggy understated this particular aspect. I have most definitely seen games where a team scores to go up 1-0 with 35 minutes left and they say something similar. College basketball put in a shot clock for a reason. Honest question, is there another timed sport where you can stall as much as soccer?
Lacrosse needs a shot clock.

Nobody cares about lacrosse. Worse sport than soccer.

Post by **TheDancinMonarch** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:04 am

89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Lacrosse needs a shot clock.
Nobody cares about lacrosse. Worse sport than soccer.

Amen to that!

EPJr · Post by **EPJr** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:21 am

Colin Cowherd‏@ESPN_Colin
What other country is actually buying World Cup tickets?
Well, whaddya know.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:36 am

89Hen wrote:
clenz wrote: No different than a NFL game getting to 21 or 24 zero before half.

There might be some a couple scores from the other team but the game is over 99% of the time
Flaggy understated this particular aspect. I have most definitely seen games where a team scores to go up 1-0 with 35 minutes left and they say something similar. College basketball put in a shot clock for a reason. Honest question, is there another timed sport where you can stall as much as soccer?

You're a either lying, or whoever said that is an idiot. A team that's down 1-0 with 35 minutes left is going to throw everything the have into getting the equalizer, which makes for very entertaining play.

I'll refer you to this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RuqvvnhSM[/youtube]

and this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DElrKyEFs[/youtube]

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:14 am

Messi with a big goal in injury time time to lead Argentina with a win over Iran 1-0 and to the knockout rounds. While not a ton, Iran had a few good chances

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:19 am

Grizalltheway wrote:
89Hen wrote: Flaggy understated this particular aspect. I have most definitely seen games where a team scores to go up 1-0 with 35 minutes left and they say something similar. College basketball put in a shot clock for a reason. Honest question, is there another timed sport where you can stall as much as soccer?
You're a either lying, or whoever said that is an idiot. A team that's down 1-0 with 35 minutes left is going to throw everything the have into getting the equalizer, which makes for very entertaining play.

I'll refer you to this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RuqvvnhSM[/youtube]

and this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DElrKyEFs[/youtube]

No, he is correct. UVA, back when they had really great teams, were known for, and criticized for, going into stall mode after taking the lead. I know that W&M and ODU coaches made comments about it.

That is also why there is a rule now where if the defense kicks the ball back to the goalie, the goalie can't pick it up and can only play it with his feet. (There may be more
detail on this rule that someone can add)

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:23 am

BTW, I saw a stat this morning that the 2014 WC is averaging 3.0 goals/game. This is the highest scoring in the last 6 or 7 WC's. But there is still a lot of games to play.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:37 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
You're a either lying, or whoever said that is an idiot. A team that's down 1-0 with 35 minutes left is going to throw everything the have into getting the equalizer, which makes for very entertaining play.

I'll refer you to this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RuqvvnhSM[/youtube]

and this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DElrKyEFs[/youtube]
No, he is correct. UVA, back when they had really great teams, were known for, and criticized for, going into stall mode after taking the lead. I know that W&M and ODU coaches made comments about it.

That is also why there is a rule now where if the defense kicks the ball back to the goalie, the goalie can't pick it up and can only play it with his feet. (There may be more
detail on this rule that someone can add)

The rule was put into effect in 1992 so it's been over 20 years that this play has been penalized. A player can chest or head the ball back and have the keeper handle it but not kick it back. So in reality, not really a stalling technique that any modern players have had to deal with.

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:21 pm

Ghana takes 2-1 lead over Germany

Post by **93henfan** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:22 pm

NEGROES - 2
NAZIS - 1

63 mins

Go darkies!

MSUDuo · Post by **MSUDuo** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:24 pm

Yeah, people pissed and moaned the way the USA ended up played Ghana. Look at what they're doing to Germany, a supposed favorite.

Haters going to hate.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:26 pm

We have to root for Germans. It makes our road to advancing easier. Tie may be ok. Ghana loss makes it tougher

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:27 pm

Dammit. Last thing I want is to face a desperate German team in the last match.

Post by **clenz** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:27 pm

While this gives the US a better chance at winning the group i would prefer Ghana not win this one.

That would put Germany, Ghana and the US at 3 heading into tomorrow. That means the US would likely need 3 against Portugal to advance and mean Germany goes into our game with them full bore

Post by **93henfan** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:29 pm

Great game. Nazis tie it.

Post by **clenz** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:30 pm

Klose on yhe pitch for 1 minute and score

4 goals in 20 minutes

Let's go Deutschland

Post by **93henfan** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:30 pm

A tie would be good for Murica, right?

Post by **clenz** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:33 pm

93henfan wrote:A tie would be good for Murica, right?

Much much better than a Ghana win.

Gives US a chance at winning the group but keeps Ghana far enough back to stay out of contention. Especially if US can at least draw Portugal tomorrow

If US can draw Portugal all it would need is to lose to Germany by less than 4 to advance

MSUDuo · Post by **MSUDuo** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:34 pm

93henfan wrote:A tie would be good for Murica, right?

Only if we win tomorrow.

In reality, we can control our own destiny. A draw here and a USA win gives us the upper hand if we draw Germany.

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