It's near impossible to read or watch the news anymore with the amount of sensationalism that runs rampant. Not to mention the speculation occuring on social sites like Twitter. It's not just about H1N1 but everything. It's no wonder people are so damn jumpy and agitated when the president's plane flies over NY. The past 9 years can pretty much be summed up as "EVERYBODY PANIC!!".Col Hogan wrote:..but STOP THE PARANOIA!!!!!!!!
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George W. Bush, Fox News and company did their best to scare the hell out of everybody for the last seven years, turns out we should have been scared as hell, but not of what his ilk were telling us to fear.Mountaineer wrote:It's near impossible to read or watch the news anymore with the amount of sensationalism that runs rampant. Not to mention the speculation occuring on social sites like Twitter. It's not just about H1N1 but everything. It's no wonder people are so damn jumpy and agitated when the president's plane flies over NY. The past 9 years can pretty much be summed up as "EVERYBODY PANIC!!".Col Hogan wrote:..but STOP THE PARANOIA!!!!!!!!
Americans want to panic, cry, and scream. Then they want some Government tough guy to stick up for their wimpy asses, and somebody to blame.
No fucking wonder why we have lost our image as a smart, industrious, inventive, and productive people. Let alone the fact that many nations no longer consider us a "Superpower."
Now we raise our fat stupid kids on potato chips, diet pepsi, and video games, and tell them how wonderful and special they are no matter how bad they suck.
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Our fat stupid lazy kids is a whole nuther thread Dude..!!!Wedgebuster wrote: Now we raise our fat stupid kids on potato chips, diet pepsi, and video games, and tell them how wonderful and special they are no matter how bad they suck.
(nuther is not a word but I like it)
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ya but how many people a year get regular flu... the number we should be looking at is percentage of infected population who die.... According to the CDC 5 to 20% of the population gets the flu each year and on average about 36,000 die each year... so lets take a middle ground from 5 to 20 % and come up with a number....OL FU wrote:I don't want to say it isn't something to worry about and that we shouldn't try to prevent it from spreading but we seem to get out of whack about this stuff. PArt of it is the media. I mean 36,000 people a year from plain old everyday influenza is not a small numberclenz wrote: There has been what, one death, in America? That kid wasn't even American. He was Mexican that was brought into America, probably post infection.
That number is 37,500,000 get the flu on average, of that 36,000 die.
The percentae of the 37,500,000 who die is.... .00096%
What we dont know is the percentage of death for this swine flu or H1N1. Mexico says its 6 to 7% and world health officials are doubting that figure, but it could be, but that doesn't mean the same rate would hold up in the US where better medical assistance is available, but even if we go for 1/3 of that figure we are still talking 7.5 million people if the same amount were infected as a regular flu.
Another thing to consider is that each year millions and millions of Americans get flu shots, and while the shots are based on a prediction of what the flu will be that year it does offer protection, no one is protected against H1N1.
One last thing, while regular flu usually causes death in younger and older people or those with weakened immune systems, H1N1 us killing perfectly healthy people ages 20-50 who usually don't die from regular strains of flu.
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STOP TRYING TO SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!!!!UNHWildCats wrote:ya but how many people a year get regular flu... the number we should be looking at is percentage of infected population who die.... According to the CDC 5 to 20% of the population gets the flu each year and on average about 36,000 die each year... so lets take a middle ground from 5 to 20 % and come up with a number....OL FU wrote:
I don't want to say it isn't something to worry about and that we shouldn't try to prevent it from spreading but we seem to get out of whack about this stuff. PArt of it is the media. I mean 36,000 people a year from plain old everyday influenza is not a small number
That number is 37,500,000 get the flu on average, of that 36,000 die.
The percentae of the 37,500,000 who die is.... .00096%
What we dont know is the percentage of death for this swine flu or H1N1. Mexico says its 6 to 7% and world health officials are doubting that figure, but it could be, but that doesn't mean the same rate would hold up in the US where better medical assistance is available, but even if we go for 1/3 of that figure we are still talking 7.5 million people if the same amount were infected as a regular flu.
Another thing to consider is that each year millions and millions of Americans get flu shots, and while the shots are based on a prediction of what the flu will be that year it does offer protection, no one is protected against H1N1.
One last thing, while regular flu usually causes death in younger and older people or those with weakened immune systems, H1N1 us killing perfectly healthy people ages 20-50 who usually don't die from regular strains of flu.
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You know you're getting old when you start blaming a generation that isn't at all unlike your own for all the world's problems.Cleets Part 2 wrote:Our fat stupid lazy kids is a whole nuther thread Dude..!!!Wedgebuster wrote: Now we raise our fat stupid kids on potato chips, diet pepsi, and video games, and tell them how wonderful and special they are no matter how bad they suck.
(nuther is not a word but I like it)
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Cleets Part 2 wrote:
(nuther is not a word but I like it)
it is in Jersey but its spelled "nudah"
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Taggy, you forgot how damn old I am!WTAG wrote:You know you're getting old when you start blaming a generation that isn't at all unlike your own for all the world's problems.Cleets Part 2 wrote:
Our fat stupid lazy kids is a whole nuther thread Dude..!!!
(nuther is not a word but I like it)
This here is some no shit facts about young shimpopper, until I was in eighth grade, we only got one TV channel. We got our first color tv when I was in seventh grade, and it was a real big deal, even with only CBS to look at.
The first phone I remember using was a big black rotary phone that weighed at least 12 pounds, our phone # then was Prescott 6-6255. When we moved to the country when I was in 5th grade we had a hand ringer on a party line, our number was 187, but for in party calling, two shorts and a long (everybody listened to everybody else on the phone, called "rubbering").
Pretty much played outside at all times, otherwise the parental units would "find something for me to do."
We didn't even have asteroids, but my dad did.
My kids were not raised in the fashion that I described, and neither were you.
I'm just offending other folks and their kids.
Carry on about not worrying about the phony flu scare.
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No worries, I'm just trying to bait cleets into a pseudo-intellectual conversation about inter-generational interaction.Wedgebuster wrote:Taggy, you forgot how damn old I am!WTAG wrote:
You know you're getting old when you start blaming a generation that isn't at all unlike your own for all the world's problems.![]()
This here is some no shit facts about young shimpopper, until I was in eighth grade, we only got one TV channel. We got our first color tv when I was in seventh grade, and it was a real big deal, even with only CBS to look at.
The first phone I remember using was a big black rotary phone that weighed at least 12 pounds, our phone # then was Prescott 6-6255. When we moved to the country when I was in 5th grade we had a hand ringer on a party line, our number was 187, but for in party calling, two shorts and a long (everybody listened to everybody else on the phone, called "rubbering").
Pretty much played outside at all times, otherwise the parental units would "find something for me to do."
We didn't even have asteroids, but my dad did.
My kids were not raised in the fashion that I described, and neither were you.![]()
I'm just offending other folks and their kids.
Carry on about not worrying about the phony flu scare.
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This is nothing but Media Sensation. On the average, 36,000 Americans DIE each from the flu or complications from the flu.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm
Yesterday it was 164 deaths, now it's possibly 7? This "swine flu" is creating hysteria where there shouldn't be any.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm
Yesterday it was 164 deaths, now it's possibly 7? This "swine flu" is creating hysteria where there shouldn't be any.
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Thought so.WTAG wrote:No worries, I'm just trying to bait cleets into a pseudo-intellectual conversation about inter-generational interaction.Wedgebuster wrote:
Taggy, you forgot how damn old I am!![]()
This here is some no shit facts about young shimpopper, until I was in eighth grade, we only got one TV channel. We got our first color tv when I was in seventh grade, and it was a real big deal, even with only CBS to look at.
The first phone I remember using was a big black rotary phone that weighed at least 12 pounds, our phone # then was Prescott 6-6255. When we moved to the country when I was in 5th grade we had a hand ringer on a party line, our number was 187, but for in party calling, two shorts and a long (everybody listened to everybody else on the phone, called "rubbering").
Pretty much played outside at all times, otherwise the parental units would "find something for me to do."
We didn't even have asteroids, but my dad did.
My kids were not raised in the fashion that I described, and neither were you.![]()
I'm just offending other folks and their kids.
Carry on about not worrying about the phony flu scare.
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It's the tare-ists and they gonna nuk-lar us.MarkCCU wrote:This is nothing but Media Sensation. On the average, 36,000 Americans DIE each from the flu or complications from the flu.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm
Yesterday it was 164 deaths, now it's possibly 7? This "swine flu" is creating hysteria where there shouldn't be any.
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Wedgebuster wrote:It's the tare-ists and they gonna nuk-lar us.MarkCCU wrote:This is nothing but Media Sensation. On the average, 36,000 Americans DIE each from the flu or complications from the flu.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm
Yesterday it was 164 deaths, now it's possibly 7? This "swine flu" is creating hysteria where there shouldn't be any.
I think it's a Jew Conspiracy. There is something very....Jewish about this entire thing.
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You know it's pretty bad when Rachel Maddow is making fun of Biden's comments. To add insult to injury, Gibbs tried to spin Biden's statements, but it failed miserably. The press laughed at Gibb's face!
Go ahead and defend Biden our good old ultra-left UNHWildcat!
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Not trying not to take it serious because I think we should butUNHWildCats wrote:ya but how many people a year get regular flu... the number we should be looking at is percentage of infected population who die.... According to the CDC 5 to 20% of the population gets the flu each year and on average about 36,000 die each year... so lets take a middle ground from 5 to 20 % and come up with a number....OL FU wrote:
I don't want to say it isn't something to worry about and that we shouldn't try to prevent it from spreading but we seem to get out of whack about this stuff. PArt of it is the media. I mean 36,000 people a year from plain old everyday influenza is not a small number
That number is 37,500,000 get the flu on average, of that 36,000 die.
The percentae of the 37,500,000 who die is.... .00096%
What we dont know is the percentage of death for this swine flu or H1N1. Mexico says its 6 to 7% and world health officials are doubting that figure, but it could be, but that doesn't mean the same rate would hold up in the US where better medical assistance is available, but even if we go for 1/3 of that figure we are still talking 7.5 million people if the same amount were infected as a regular flu.
Another thing to consider is that each year millions and millions of Americans get flu shots, and while the shots are based on a prediction of what the flu will be that year it does offer protection, no one is protected against H1N1.
One last thing, while regular flu usually causes death in younger and older people or those with weakened immune systems, H1N1 us killing perfectly healthy people ages 20-50 who usually don't die from regular strains of flu.
1) I don't think Mexico knows how many people have had the flu. I heard someone on NPR say it could be 100,000 or more.
2) We certainly don't know if the people who died were in Mexico were healthy. If you have been to Mexico City, then you know what I am talking about.
don't get me wrong UNH, I am not saying not take it serious but some of Biden's comments are a little nutz was my point. Of course, you gotta like Joe for his lack of reserve on some things.
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You are all buying into the hysteria. Should we take this seriously? Yes we should. We should take any illness serious. Is this as serious as something that happens every year? So far, it seems not.
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Yep. More business for doctors.MarkCCU wrote:Wedgebuster wrote:
It's the tare-ists and they gonna nuk-lar us.
I think it's a Jew Conspiracy. There is something very....Jewish about this entire thing.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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Re: VP Biden: "Stay off public transportation"
Think about it. A flu= $$$$ to research the cure/$$$ to produce and disseminate the cure/$$$ to sensationalize it on tv (Jews own the media). This is a Jew conspiracy. Pretty soon we'll be reading right to left, eating brisket and giving up drinking(that way we suffer more). Yup, the Jews are taking over. If you thought it was the Chinese you'd be mistaken. YOU'D HOPE IT WERE THE CHINESE!houndawg wrote:Yep. More business for doctors.MarkCCU wrote:
I think it's a Jew Conspiracy. There is something very....Jewish about this entire thing.
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I think I prefer Chink food to Jew food, but then again, lamb is pretty tasty.
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The Jews have been cloning Chinese for years, that's why there are so many of them and why they're so good at making money.MarkCCU wrote:Think about it. A flu= $$$$ to research the cure/$$$ to produce and disseminate the cure/$$$ to sensationalize it on tv (Jews own the media). This is a Jew conspiracy. Pretty soon we'll be reading right to left, eating brisket and giving up drinking(that way we suffer more). Yup, the Jews are taking over. If you thought it was the Chinese you'd be mistaken. YOU'D HOPE IT WERE THE CHINESE!houndawg wrote:
Yep. More business for doctors.
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houndawg wrote:The Jews have been cloning Chinese for years, that's why there are so many of them and why they're so good at making money.MarkCCU wrote:
Think about it. A flu= $$$$ to research the cure/$$$ to produce and disseminate the cure/$$$ to sensationalize it on tv (Jews own the media). This is a Jew conspiracy. Pretty soon we'll be reading right to left, eating brisket and giving up drinking(that way we suffer more). Yup, the Jews are taking over. If you thought it was the Chinese you'd be mistaken. YOU'D HOPE IT WERE THE CHINESE!
Oh my GOD! IT'S WORSE THAN I EXPECTED! It's a Chino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up! Oh well, NOW DO YOU SEE. THE JEWS AND THE CHINKS ARE IN CAHOOTS! THEY ARE CA HOOTING! Good by Meatballs, hello Matzo Balls.
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I believe that would be a Sino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up! to use official diplomatic speak.MarkCCU wrote:houndawg wrote:
The Jews have been cloning Chinese for years, that's why there are so many of them and why they're so good at making money.
Oh my GOD! IT'S WORSE THAN I EXPECTED! It's a Chino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up! Oh well, NOW DO YOU SEE. THE JEWS AND THE CHINKS ARE IN CAHOOTS! THEY ARE CA HOOTING! Good by Meatballs, hello Matzo Balls.
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I do apologize. You are right, a Sino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up is more correct. We have to stop this all at once.UNI88 wrote:I believe that would be a Sino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up! to use official diplomatic speak.MarkCCU wrote:
Oh my GOD! IT'S WORSE THAN I EXPECTED! It's a Chino-Hebrew Conspiracy/Cover up! Oh well, NOW DO YOU SEE. THE JEWS AND THE CHINKS ARE IN CAHOOTS! THEY ARE CA HOOTING! Good by Meatballs, hello Matzo Balls.
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