US SOCCER

[clenz]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. Fuck Kansas. No wonder John Denver loved Colorado so much. He had just gotten out of Kansas.

Kansas and Nebraska are fucking terrible. The only reason they are their own states is because the boardering states looked at them and went "Fuck no, we don't want that waste of space".

[clenz]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. Fuck Kansas.

Road trips are awesome...sometimes. But when the final destination is more enjoyable...why waste the money and time (time off work and/or personal time)? If I'm going to New Orleans....do I really want to drive 2600 miles/34 hours? Nope, I'll fly that same route in 6 hours total and enjoy that extra day there getting blasted and stuffing my face with jambalaya and crawfish.

For me the drive/time with the people I went with was just as enjoyable as the time in actual city.

[bandl]

Road trips are awesome...sometimes. But when the final destination is more enjoyable...why waste the money and time (time off work and/or personal time)? If I'm going to New Orleans....do I really want to drive 2600 miles/34 hours? Nope, I'll fly that same route in 6 hours total and enjoy that extra day there getting blasted and stuffing my face with jambalaya and crawfish.

For me the drive/time with the people I went with was just as enjoyable as the time in actual city.

That's because you're horribly odd.

[89Hen]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. Fuck Kansas. No wonder John Denver loved Colorado so much. He had just gotten out of Kansas.

Some of us don't get two weeks off work in a row. 7 day vacation with 2-4 days of driving... no thanks.

[clenz]

For me the drive/time with the people I went with was just as enjoyable as the time in actual city.

That's because you're horribly odd.

Not untrue.

[tribe_pride]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. **** Kansas. No wonder John Denver loved Colorado so much. He had just gotten out of Kansas.

Some of us don't get two weeks off work in a row. 7 day vacation with 2-4 days of driving... no thanks.

That's more my problem. A long drive is great (apparently as long as you stay away from Kansas and Nebraska) but I can't imagine using up 1/2 my vacation days driving.

[dal4018]

Tribe in '18 the WC will be in Russia as stated before how is this for a final USA vs USSR the cold war continues????

[93henfan]

For me the drive/time with the people I went with was just as enjoyable as the time in actual city.

That's because you're horribly odd.

[93henfan]

Some of us don't get two weeks off work in a row. 7 day vacation with 2-4 days of driving... no thanks.

That's more my problem. A long drive is great (apparently as long as you stay away from Kansas and Nebraska) but I can't imagine using up 1/2 my vacation days driving.

One of my coast to coast drives was between military assignments and the other was after getting out. So yeah, I had boatloads of time. I took 12 days going across on the first one and a little less on the second.

[BDKJMU]

I've just never needed to fly anywhere I've gone.

I've driven to Vancouver (1700 miles)and Valle Hermoso, Tamaulipas Mexico (1500 miles) from my home town but had no reason to fly (probably would have been faster).

I've driven to Denver and Louisville from Cedar Falls (900ish miles and 800ish respectively).

At some point I'll fly. When I do I'll make sure to document it with hundred of photos and videos to share with you guys. Maybe they'll give me those wings since it will be my first time flying

Holy cow. You probably could have flown for cheaper (and definitely quicker) than you did to go to Mexico and Vancouver when you take into account all costs. Damn. Those are long drives considering you have to drive both ways.

By yourself maybe. 2+ people (2+ airline tickets), no.

[93henfan]

Holy cow. You probably could have flown for cheaper (and definitely quicker) than you did to go to Mexico and Vancouver when you take into account all costs. Damn. Those are long drives considering you have to drive both ways.

By yourself maybe. 2+ people (2+ airline tickets), no.

You could shoehorn everyone onto Spirit Air, with their 30% more seats on every plane. Just don't expect any water or snacks. That shit's like $75 an item!

They sure do make it look cheap up front though.

[BDKJMU]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. **** Kansas. No wonder John Denver loved Colorado so much. He had just gotten out of Kansas.

Kansas and Nebraska are **** terrible. The only reason they are their own states is because the boardering states looked at them and went "**** no, we don't want that waste of space".

I agree, some of us enjoy driving. I don't see how you can say Nebraska and Kansas certainly are "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

This past Spring gf and I spent the night in Prairie Du Chen, WI, across the Mississippi from Iowa. Crossed the Mississippi into Iowa, visited Effigy Mounds National Monument and Pikes Peak State Park. Drove across northern Iowa, including stopping in Waterloo and Cedar Falls, and overnighted in Sioux City, where visited the Louis & Clark Interpretive Center the next morning before crossing the Missouri into Nebraska.

Nebraska stopped at Ponca State Park and drove across about 1/2 of northern Nebraska on Hwy 12, the "Outlaw Trail". Stopped at Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refugee and overnighted in Valentine before crossing into S Dakota the next day. Also a few years ago spent a night in Omaha.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Prairie ... 727833!3e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kansas I have spent several nights in Kansas City and also driven a small portion of southeastern Kansas on Route 66.

From my experience Nebraska and Kansas certainly aren't "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

Biggest cities among the 3 states (wiki, us census 12' estimate):
1. Omaha, NE: 421k
2. Witchita, KS: 385k
3. Lincoln, NE: 265k
4. Des Moines, IA: 207k
5. Overland Park, KS: 178k
6. Kansas City: 147k (largest metro)

[bandl]

Biggest cities among the 3 states (wiki, us census 12' estimate):
1. Omaha, NE: 421k
2. Witchita, KS: 385k
3. Lincoln, NE: 265k
4. Des Moines, IA: 207k
5. Overland Park, KS: 178k
6. Kansas City: 147k (largest metro)

What does this have to do with anything?

[BDKJMU]

Some of us enjoy driving. I've gone coast to coast twice. Lots of great memories from both trips. Except Kansas. **** Kansas. No wonder John Denver loved Colorado so much. He had just gotten out of Kansas.

Some of us don't get two weeks off work in a row. 7 day vacation with 2-4 days of driving... no thanks.

Most people that get a week get 9 days: 2 days off, 5 days vacation, 2 days off. 9 days with 2 days, 3 tops I can see. 4 days no.

[93henfan]

Drive the width of Kansas east to west on 70 and then let me know how excited you are. Yeah, yeah, I know - get off the interstate. That's what we did once we got to where we wanted to start exploring, which was CO, UT, AZ.

Seriously, you'll want to set wheat fields on fire (because you won't see any people to punch) by the time you're done in KS.

[Grizalltheway]

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[clenz]

Kansas and Nebraska are **** terrible. The only reason they are their own states is because the boardering states looked at them and went "**** no, we don't want that waste of space".

I agree, some of us enjoy driving. This past Spring gf and I spent the night in Prairie Du Chen, WI, across the Mississippi from Iowa. Crossed the Mississippi into Iowa, visited Effigy Mounds National Monument and Pikes Peak State Park. Drove across northern Iowa, including stopping in Waterloo and Cedar Falls, and overnighted in Sioux City, where visited the Louis & Clark Interpretive Center the next morning before crossing the Missouri into Nebraska.

Nebraska stopped at Ponca State Park and drove across about 1/2 of northern Nebraska on Hwy 12, the "Outlaw Trail". Stopped at Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refugee and overnighted in Valentine before crossing into S Dakota the next day. Also a few years ago spent a night in Omaha.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Prairie ... 727833!3e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kansas I have spent several nights in Kansas City and also driven a small portion of southeastern Kansas on Route 66.

From my experience Nebraska and Kansas certainly aren't "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

Biggest cities among the 3 states (wiki, us census 12' estimate):
1. Omaha, NE: 421k
2. Witchita, KS: 385k
3. Lincoln, NE: 265k
4. Des Moines, IA: 207k
5. Overland Park, KS: 178k
6. Kansas City: 147k (largest metro)
I don't see how you can say Nebraska and Kansas certainly are "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

The Des Moines metro is well over 1 million people.

Omaha's metro is boosted by the fact that Council Bluffs, IA is right with it.

Nebraska is garbage. Out of the 1.8 million people that live in that state about 1.3 live in the Omaha/Lincoln corridor.

If you've driven all the way through the two states you'd know that Iowa, while nothing special, is eleventybillion percent better

[bandl]

Mostly Whites 2
Blacks 0

[bluehenbillk]

Driving through Illinois on I-70 ranks right up there on the terrible list as well...

[Grizalltheway]

Kansas and Nebraska are **** terrible. The only reason they are their own states is because the boardering states looked at them and went "**** no, we don't want that waste of space".

I agree, some of us enjoy driving. I don't see how you can say Nebraska and Kansas certainly are "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

This past Spring gf and I spent the night in Prairie Du Chen, WI, across the Mississippi from Iowa. Crossed the Mississippi into Iowa, visited Effigy Mounds National Monument and Pikes Peak State Park. Drove across northern Iowa, including stopping in Waterloo and Cedar Falls, and overnighted in Sioux City, where visited the Louis & Clark Interpretive Center the next morning before crossing the Missouri into Nebraska.

Nebraska stopped at Ponca State Park and drove across about 1/2 of northern Nebraska on Hwy 12, the "Outlaw Trail". Stopped at Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refugee and overnighted in Valentine before crossing into S Dakota the next day. Also a few years ago spent a night in Omaha.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Prairie ... 727833!3e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kansas I have spent several nights in Kansas City and also driven a small portion of southeastern Kansas on Route 66.

From my experience Nebraska and Kansas certainly aren't "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

Biggest cities among the 3 states (wiki, us census 12' estimate):
1. Omaha, NE: 421k
2. Witchita, KS: 385k
3. Lincoln, NE: 265k
4. Des Moines, IA: 207k
5. Overland Park, KS: 178k
6. Kansas City: 147k (largest metro)

Lewis & Clark.

[Skjellyfetti]

Jose Altidore should be back for Belgium game.

Kompany, Vermaelen, Ciman, Vanden Borre, Fellaini questionable or doubtful for Belgium.

[Ibanez]

Kansas and Nebraska are **** terrible. The only reason they are their own states is because the boardering states looked at them and went "**** no, we don't want that waste of space".

I agree, some of us enjoy driving. I don't see how you can say Nebraska and Kansas certainly are "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

This past Spring gf and I spent the night in Prairie Du Chen, WI, across the Mississippi from Iowa. Crossed the Mississippi into Iowa, visited Effigy Mounds National Monument and Pikes Peak State Park. Drove across northern Iowa, including stopping in Waterloo and Cedar Falls, and overnighted in Sioux City, where visited the Louis & Clark Interpretive Center the next morning before crossing the Missouri into Nebraska.

Nebraska stopped at Ponca State Park and drove across about 1/2 of northern Nebraska on Hwy 12, the "Outlaw Trail". Stopped at Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refugee and overnighted in Valentine before crossing into S Dakota the next day. Also a few years ago spent a night in Omaha.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Prairie ... 727833!3e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kansas I have spent several nights in Kansas City and also driven a small portion of southeastern Kansas on Route 66.

From my experience Nebraska and Kansas certainly aren't "**** terrible" compared to Iowa.

Biggest cities among the 3 states (wiki, us census 12' estimate):
1. Omaha, NE: 421k
2. Witchita, KS: 385k
3. Lincoln, NE: 265k
4. Des Moines, IA: 207k
5. Overland Park, KS: 178k
6. Kansas City: 147k (largest metro)

Cool Story, bro.


A buddy of mine drove from Newark, NJ to San Diego last November. He called me in Kansas and stated how much he hated that fucking drive.

[BDKJMU]

Drive the width of Kansas east to west on 70 and then let me know how excited you are. Yeah, yeah, I know - get off the interstate. That's what we did once we got to where we wanted to start exploring, which was CO, UT, AZ.

Seriously, you'll want to set wheat fields on fire (because you won't see any people to punch) by the time you're done.

I drove I70 from western PA, through a sliver of WV, across OH, halfway across Indiana to Indianapolis. I've also driven a stretch of it in UT, but not in between.

Indianapolis to Denver on I70, including across Kansas. Close to 1100 miles. Other than St Louis and Kansas City no other cities that I see over 200k. Hundreds of miles of farm fields. Probably close to 1k miles of rural & farm fields.

Indianapolis to Denver on I80, over 1100 miles, including across Iowa & Nebraska. Des Moines, Omaha & Lincoln. only cities cross through over 200k in that 1k miles. Probably close to 1k miles of rural & farm fields.

Do you really think there is much difference driving across Kansas on I70 and Iowa & Nebraska on I80?

[AZGrizFan]

That's more my problem. A long drive is great (apparently as long as you stay away from Kansas and Nebraska) but I can't imagine using up 1/2 my vacation days driving.

One of my coast to coast drives was between military assignments and the other was after getting out. So yeah, I had boatloads of time. I took 12 days going across on the first one and a little less on the second.

Drove from upstate NY to Seattle in 3 days. Then two more days to San Diego.

Puss.

Of course, if I'd been married and had my wife with me the first leg of the trip to Seattle would have taken about two weeks.

[93henfan]

Driving through Illinois on I-70 ranks right up there on the terrible list as well...

70 is just not a pleasant road east of the continental divide. PA, OH, IN all snoozers. IL bad as mentioned. MO is surprisingly not terrible. You get actual forest in some sections and of course there's OZARKLAND! But holy hell does Kansas ever take the cake. That state starts shitty and never stops being shitty.