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Try to keep up.
And what does that have to do with anything?
C'mon dude. Are you kidding me right now?
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93henfan wrote:This whole ordeal has got me to wondering a few things, so here is what I found:
Over the years I've begun to notice that black people seem to have a certain kind of smell / aroma to them. Like, I can smell it and think 'there are black people here' and then be right. Is that just me, or do other people smell it as well?
http://www.experienceproject.com/questi ... ll/1722345

How come most Africans have larger lips and a wider nose compared to, lets say Americans.
http://www.sciencelet.com/2012/10/why-a ... -lips.html
Why do dark-skinned or black people have their palms and soles paler than the rest of their body? My parents told me that when God painted black people he had them stand with their hands against a wall and that was why.
http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfi ... ople_have/

Some others:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+black+peopl ... watermelon
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+black+peopl ... ed+chicken
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+black+people+love+kool+aid
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+black+peopl ... ite+people
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+don%27t+black+ ... ke+to+work

I heard that god held black people by their nostrils when he painted them black. And thus, that's why their noses are the way they are.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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It's called reading.Top to bottom, left to right. Group words together as a sentence. Take tylenol for any headaches, midol for cramps.
Yeah, it's called reading, as in proofreading. It's not my fault someone is too stupid to spell even close to correctly and too lazy to proofread.
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What were you saying about being too stupid to proofread? :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
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And what does that have to do with anything?
It's called reading.Top to bottom, left to right. Group words together as a sentence. Take tylenol for any headaches, midol for cramps.
Shut up, Richard....
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Ibanez wrote:
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Yeah, it's called reading, as in proofreading. It's not my fault someone is too stupid to spell even close to correctly and too lazy to proofread.
What were you saying about being too stupid to proofread? :coffee:
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bandl wrote:
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It's called reading.Top to bottom, left to right. Group words together as a sentence. Take tylenol for any headaches, midol for cramps.
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kalm wrote:
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What were you saying about being too stupid to proofread? :coffee:
Hubris...BDK needs less. :lol:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
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Hubris...BDK needs less. :lol:
We all make mistakes. I make a mistake every time I post on here. You gotta be able to have fun with it and laugh it off.
True. I'm guilty of that. But, we all know some posters are pompous pricks.
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This whole thing is an excellent illustration of why racial profiling, while prohibited, is rational.

There's a lot more to it than just this. But anybody that doesn't think that Blacks are "more likely" to engage in physical criminal activity is just in denial. Even if one accepts the idea that some kind of unfairness is a factor in Blacks being so disproportionately likely to be convicted of "physical" crimes of violence there are statistics on "perceived race of offender" based on what victims of violent crime say about who attacked them that strongly support the idea that Blacks are way more likely to do it.

Yes, Black males are treated differently. But there's a reason for it. It's too bad the Black males who aren't like that have to suffer for it. But their issue should be with the unacceptably large proportion of Black males who do the stuff that causes people to react like they do. In this Ferguson case we end up seeing the alleged victim acting in the problematic way in that surveillance video.

Then there is the whole other matter of the Black community along with some misguided Whites who are constantly jumping to the conclusion that there was some injustice in a situation like the one in Ferguson when they don't even know what happened. Then when information that kind of calls their assumption about what happened into question surfaces they refuse to accept it for what it is.
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JohnStOnge wrote:This whole thing is an excellent illustration of why racial profiling, while prohibited, is rational.

There's a lot more to it than just this. But anybody that doesn't think that Blacks are "more likely" to engage in physical criminal activity is just in denial. Even if one accepts the idea that some kind of unfairness is a factor in Blacks being so disproportionately likely to be convicted of "physical" crimes of violence there are statistics on "perceived race of offender" based on what victims of violent crime say about who attacked them that strongly support the idea that Blacks are way more likely to do it.

Yes, Black males are treated differently. But there's a reason for it. It's too bad the Black males who aren't like that have to suffer for it. But their issue should be with the unacceptably large proportion of Black males who do the stuff that causes people to react like they do. In this Ferguson case we end up seeing the alleged victim acting in the problematic way in that surveillance video.

Then there is the whole other matter of the Black community along with some misguided Whites who are constantly jumping to the conclusion that there was some injustice in a situation like the one in Ferguson when they don't even know what happened. Then when information that kind of calls their assumption about what happened into question surfaces they refuse to accept it for what it is.
Talk about making mistakes; what a racist, dumb assed post.

When I saw that you posted on this thread I assumed that it was to list explanations for the stuff that 93 brought up. You're probably working on that now.
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Press conference with the Gov. just ended. People are so stupid. They announced that there will be a curfew from midnight until 5:00am. People asked if they can have a 2way radio so they can communicate with the police to let them know that all the peaceful people are out of the area. WTF? How about this? Get the fuck out by midnight.
Another person said that they want to protest. WTF is it that you want to say at 2am that you can't say at 2pm? I'm surrounded by idiots. :ohno:
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JohnStOnge wrote:This whole thing is an excellent illustration of why racial profiling, while prohibited, is rational.

There's a lot more to it than just this. But anybody that doesn't think that Blacks are "more likely" to engage in physical criminal activity is just in denial. Even if one accepts the idea that some kind of unfairness is a factor in Blacks being so disproportionately likely to be convicted of "physical" crimes of violence there are statistics on "perceived race of offender" based on what victims of violent crime say about who attacked them that strongly support the idea that Blacks are way more likely to do it.

Yes, Black males are treated differently. But there's a reason for it. It's too bad the Black males who aren't like that have to suffer for it. But their issue should be with the unacceptably large proportion of Black males who do the stuff that causes people to react like they do. In this Ferguson case we end up seeing the alleged victim acting in the problematic way in that surveillance video.

Then there is the whole other matter of the Black community along with some misguided Whites who are constantly jumping to the conclusion that there was some injustice in a situation like the one in Ferguson when they don't even know what happened. Then when information that kind of calls their assumption about what happened into question surfaces they refuse to accept it for what it is.
So is it safe to assume that white cops are disproportionately more likely to physically abuse innocent black men in custody? Because that's exactly what happened in Ferguson a few years ago.

This linked story is amazing. In fact, it's hard to blame blacks for mistrusting the cops there. Everyone involved in this incident should have been fired. I hope they lose everything.

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CAA Flagship wrote:Press conference with the Gov. just ended. People are so stupid. They announced that there will be a curfew from midnight until 5:00am. People asked if they can have a 2way radio so they can communicate with the police to let them know that all the peaceful people are out of the area. WTF? How about this? Get the fuck out by midnight.
Another person said that they want to protest. WTF is it that you want to say at 2am that you can't say at 2pm? I'm surrounded by idiots. :ohno:
I think the protesters made their point a few days ago. The governor relieved the local police, and the feds are looking into the shooting.

At this point they are just protesting for the sake of protesting. They should quit while they are ahead, last night they made the local police look good.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:Press conference with the Gov. just ended. People are so stupid. They announced that there will be a curfew from midnight until 5:00am. People asked if they can have a 2way radio so they can communicate with the police to let them know that all the peaceful people are out of the area. WTF? How about this? Get the fuck out by midnight.
Another person said that they want to protest. WTF is it that you want to say at 2am that you can't say at 2pm? I'm surrounded by idiots. :ohno:
I think the protesters made their point a few days ago. The governor relieved the local police, and the feds are looking into the shooting.

At this point they are just protesting for the sake of protesting. They should quit while they are ahead, last night they made the local police look good.
The Gov and the police held this press conference to discuss the plan to try to maintain peace. The investigation of the shooting is out of their hands legally.
Their first mistake was not making that clear at the very beginning.
Then they opened up to questions from the peeps. "Why isn't the shooter indicted?".
They were in a tailspin from there.
After stressing that their first order of business was to maintain peace and order, the peeps did not understand why THAT is so important rather than jailing the shooter.
So their second mistake was NOT saying "Because we don't want any more deaths, injuries, or destruction of property."
Why they didn't say that to shut them up from the beginning, I have no idea.

They clearly were ill equipped for the questions that a Pakistani would expect. How did they not review their message and compare it to what they should have known was going to be asked? :ohno: :ohno:
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So is it safe to assume that white cops are disproportionately more likely to physically abuse innocent black men in custody? Because that's exactly what happened in Ferguson a few years ago.

This linked story is amazing. In fact, it's hard to blame blacks for mistrusting the cops there. Everyone involved in this incident should have been fired. I hope they lose everything.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... y-lie.html
Not on the basis of one incident like that. Look, anybody who is familiar with me knows I am not a police apologist. I have taken heat because I have said that the job selects for a certain type of person. They are, basically. society's thugs.

What I'm talking about is that, regardless of that, it's clear that if you were to make a probability model to assess the likelihood that some individual is a threat in terms of violent crime "Black" would be a factor. Male would be as well. And "Black Male" would be perhaps the "sex/race" combination identified as representing the greatest risk of a violent crime attack.
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Talk about making mistakes; what a racist, dumb assed post.
Really? Would you like for me to once again locate the statistics on the perceived race of the offender reported by victims of violent crime and the obviously disproportionate extent to which the perceived race of offenders is Black?

Or would you like to give me an instance in modern history in which White people acted like Black people are acting right now in this Ferguson situation? Got an example?

How can you possibly defend the way in which the Black Community in that area is acting right now? I mean really.
When I saw that you posted on this thread I assumed that it was to list explanations for the stuff that 93 brought up. You're probably working on that now.
I hadn't seen what 93 brought up. I just went to the end of the thread and posted. But I'll see if I can find it.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
So is it safe to assume that white cops are disproportionately more likely to physically abuse innocent black men in custody? Because that's exactly what happened in Ferguson a few years ago.

This linked story is amazing. In fact, it's hard to blame blacks for mistrusting the cops there. Everyone involved in this incident should have been fired. I hope they lose everything.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... y-lie.html
Not on the basis of one incident like that. Look, anybody who is familiar with me knows I am not a police apologist. I have taken heat because I have said that the job selects for a certain type of person. They are, basically. society's thugs.

What I'm talking about is that, regardless of that, it's clear that if you were to make a probability model to assess the likelihood that some individual is a threat in terms of violent crime "Black" would be a factor. Male would be as well. And "Black Male" would be perhaps the "sex/race" combination identified as representing the greatest risk of a violent crime attack.
You're just letting statistics get in the way of an open mind. :coffee:
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You're just letting statistics get in the way of an open mind.
You know, that's the thing. It's like when Obama said the thing about the sound of car doors locking when young Black men are around. As though there's not a reason for that.

There IS a reason for that. Any truly rational person knows that young Black males are WAY disproportionately involved in violent crime. But we live in this "politically correct" society in which we are expected to ignore the reality and pretend there's no reason to be on guard when there are young Black men around.

And we're supposed to act as though it's acceptable when the Black community reacts the way it's reacting right now in this Ferguson Missouri case. It's NOT acceptable.

As noted, I am not a police worshipper. But we now have a situation in which it has become political. So there is political pressure to NOT treat the political police officer involved fairly. And it all revolves around this insane tendency to try to pander to the Black victim paranoia thing.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
You're just letting statistics get in the way of an open mind.
You know, that's the thing. It's like when Obama said the thing about the sound of car doors locking when young Black men are around. As though there's not a reason for that.

There IS a reason for that. Any truly rational person knows that young Black males are WAY disproportionately involved in violent crime. But we live in this "politically correct" society in which we are expected to ignore the reality and pretend there's no reason to be on guard when there are young Black men around.

And we're supposed to act as though it's acceptable when the Black community reacts the way it's reacting right now in this Ferguson Missouri case. It's NOT acceptable.
I haven't heard anyone, black or white, defending the looting aspect of it. Are you saying they shouldn't be exercising their constitutional right to assemble and protest?
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I haven't heard anyone, black or white, defending the looting aspect of it. Are you saying they shouldn't be exercising their constitutional right to assemble and protest?
People have the right to assemble and protest. However, part of the way the Black community is responding is the looting.

Also, though they have the right to do so, this thing of protesting when they don't even know what the hell happened is over the top as it usually is. The investigation will include the officer's story about what happened, witnesses stories as to what happened, and forensic evidence. For Pete's sake their "side" will even have an extremely biased US Attorney General "investigating." This officer is NOT going to get a fair investigation/ trial. He's going to get nailed if he's guilty and he may very well get nailed if he's not guilty.

There is absolutely no reason for the Black community in that area to be doing what it's doing. Do you think this would be going on if a White guy had been killed under exactly the same circumstances?

Of course not. What we have is the Black community "chip on the shoulder" thing where the whole world is viewed through a "the world is out to get us' prism. It needs to stop.

It won't. But it should.
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How can you possibly defend the way in which the Black Community in that area is acting right now? I mean really.
THAT is where you are making the mistake. Don't blame the whole "Black Community".
There were blacks locking arms to protect businesses last night.
There were blacks cleaning up debris in the looted store and in the streets this morning. All voluntary.

Here is what we know: This punk stole some cigars and physically threatened the store clerk (video evidence).
Here is what is reported on the events after that: He, or his sidekick, assaulted the police officer in his car. And he was shot more than a few feet away from the car. Supposedly, he was shot several times including the back. Supposedly, at one point, he had his arms in the air.

The "Black Community" is trying to understand how a person can lose their life under those circumstances. I think many of us can understand how emotionally charged a person can get after being assaulted. But the bottom line is that, if he was shot more than once, and in the back, while standing a fair distance away from the police officer, it is hard to understand.
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You know, that's the thing. It's like when Obama said the thing about the sound of car doors locking when young Black men are around. As though there's not a reason for that.

There IS a reason for that. Any truly rational person knows that young Black males are WAY disproportionately involved in violent crime. But we live in this "politically correct" society in which we are expected to ignore the reality and pretend there's no reason to be on guard when there are young Black men around.

And we're supposed to act as though it's acceptable when the Black community reacts the way it's reacting right now in this Ferguson Missouri case. It's NOT acceptable.
I haven't heard anyone, black or white, defending the looting aspect of it. Are you saying they shouldn't be exercising their constitutional right to assemble and protest?
Isn't the right to PEACFULLY assemble and protest? There's a whole lot of stupid going on in Fergusson, on both sides, but the point has been made and actions have been taken to reduce harm by local police, by bringing in the State Police and to get to the bottom of this, by having a Federal investigation. Now is the time to let the process run its course.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
How can you possibly defend the way in which the Black Community in that area is acting right now? I mean really.
THAT is where you are making the mistake. Don't blame the whole "Black Community".
There were blacks locking arms to protect businesses last night.
There were blacks cleaning up debris in the looted store and in the streets this morning. All voluntary.

Here is what we know: This punk stole some cigars and physically threatened the store clerk (video evidence).
Here is what is reported on the events after that: He, or his sidekick, assaulted the police officer in his car. And he was shot more than a few feet away from the car. Supposedly, he was shot several times including the back. Supposedly, at one point, he had his arms in the air.

The "Black Community" is trying to understand how a person can lose their life under those circumstances. I think many of us can understand how emotionally charged a person can get after being assaulted. But the bottom line is that, if he was shot more than once, and in the back, while standing a fair distance away from the police officer, it is hard to understand.
Exactly. :nod:
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