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AZGrizFan wrote:Nobody is happier that Robin Williams offed himself than Tony Stewart.

Nobody. :nod: :nod:

Doesn't really matter. There's not enough to charge Stewart with a crime. There will be a wrongful death suit and he'll pay off the family and that'll be it.
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93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Nobody is happier that Robin Williams offed himself than Tony Stewart.

Nobody. :nod: :nod:

Doesn't really matter. There's not enough to charge Stewart with a crime. There will be a wrongful death suit and he'll pay off the family and that'll be it.
Sure, but Robin Williams got Tony Stewart off the front page....otherwise, we'd all be dissecting each frame of footage of Tony steamrolling that dipshit.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:

Doesn't really matter. There's not enough to charge Stewart with a crime. There will be a wrongful death suit and he'll pay off the family and that'll be it.
Sure, but Robin Williams got Tony Stewart off the front page....otherwise, we'd all be dissecting each frame of footage of Tony steamrolling that dipshit.
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clenz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sure, but Robin Williams got Tony Stewart off the front page....otherwise, we'd all be dissecting each frame of footage of Tony steamrolling that dipshit.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's what he does for a living... :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
clenz wrote: FormerPokeCenter on AGS still is..
:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's what he does for a living... :coffee:
Yeah, I know.

He has multiple animations, speed break down based on how many frames the car is in, etc...

Quite the set up he's got for this.
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clenz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's what he does for a living... :coffee:
Yeah, I know.

He has multiple animations, speed break down based on how many frames the car is in, etc...

Quite the set up he's got for this.
Let me know how it goes. Sounds interesting but I don't visit that site anymore.

The one thing that some are clinging to is that Stewart gunned it. So what if he did? It amounts to nothing. Maybe he was hoping to evade the kid, who was running straight at him.

Stewart will be found guilty of nothing here.
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Even if you don't go anywhere else on the site this is the thread

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... -Into-Wall" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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This is his post with the video
The cars are set up to oversteer...That's the reason for the wing.....and, if you were to punch it, without steering into the slide, you're right, the rear and would come around.....larger outside rear tire, smaller left rear tire.....but, if you advance the video frame by frame, you can see that Stewart turns into the slide right before he guns it...Also, the car jerks to the right, because of the impact with Ward...Steering into the slide and gunning it is how you pull the rear around to the left...

I've played with the video for several hours and loaded a few things into a program called ARAS360HD, which is state of the art when it comes to reconstruction and simulation....I'm hvaing to do it between tasks I actually get paid for, but I'm working on a simulation of where Ward was, on the track, at various times....It's interesting, at the start of the turn, Ward was on the extreme outide and accelerating...his right rear tire was in the dirt at the start of the south turn....He holds that line, while Steward goes into the curve low, and holds his line.....the interesting thing about that turn is that at the start of it, it's 75 feet wide. In the area where the hits the wall, it's roughly 60 feet wide...so the width of the track diminishes by approximately 15 percent....yes, the cars get closer through the turn, but that's in large part because of the turn's narrowing....you can't really say that Stewart put him into the wall....

The other thing....after he exits his vehicle, the kid goes down the track about 10-15 feet, staying behind the line of the car, gets his bearings and then gets out onto the track. 9 vehicles pass the kid while he's still in the car, or standing down track of it....two vehicles interact with him, the #45 car who has to swerve and Stewart's car....Both the 45 car and the 14 car were in oversteer coming out of the turn....though they were going somewhat slow due to the caution...

I used Google Earth to measure the distance between visible objects on the wall in the background, and then counted video frames to determie how fast stewart was going when he made contact....I have him at 29 miles per hour....

There's a technique called Photogrammetry, whereby you can take some known distances in a photo and work out some triangulation to account for the depth of field....

I've eyeballed it, but based on where the kid was standing when he got hit....deeper into the available travel lane than he was when 45 passed, but it looks like he's reduced the usable section of the track down to under 30 feet...

It'll be interesting to see what other video angles are available, but with enough time, and some better images of the Stewart vehicle, I can pretty much give you a cockpit view of Stewart's field of view as he approached the kid...

Here are two views of a ROUGH animation showing the kid's travel in the lane and where he was when he got hit.....It's a conceptual animation, only....it's NOT scale nor exact, and needs a LOT more work, i.e., making the model walk, etc., but because that requires more time than I've got to put in it this will have to suffice for now...

What I want to do next is to advance the news video frame by frame and put the kid's path on the track....I know the path in the link is NOT exact, but I'll try to fix that as time allows...

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He's also got a couple posts with google earth images and distances
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clenz wrote:Even if you don't go anywhere else on the site this is the thread

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... -Into-Wall" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sorry. Swore it off after I visited several months ago and Ralph deleted the first post I made after a couple of year hiatus. That site can suck giant donkey dick.
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That's weird. I trolled the shit out of him over something China-related a while back and there wasn't a damn thing he could do about it.
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93henfan wrote:
clenz wrote:Even if you don't go anywhere else on the site this is the thread

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... -Into-Wall" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sorry. Swore it off after I visited several months ago and Ralph deleted the first post I made after a couple of year hiatus. That site can suck giant donkey dick.
Ralph hasn't had power in a couple years....
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Grizalltheway wrote:That's weird. I trolled the shit out of him over something China-related a while back and there wasn't a damn thing he could do about it.
Did he start the thread? I'm guessing not. The thread I posted in was started by him, I pwned him in post #2 and then he deleted the thread. I think anyway.
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clenz wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Sorry. Swore it off after I visited several months ago and Ralph deleted the first post I made after a couple of year hiatus. That site can suck giant donkey dick.
Ralph hasn't had power in a couple years....
Well, like I said, he had the power to delete my post. This was maybe six or eight months ago.

At any rate, I don't miss that site at all and have no reason to ever visit again.
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...the interesting thing about that turn is that at the start of it, it's 75 feet wide. In the area where the hits the wall, it's roughly 60 feet wide...so the width of the track diminishes by approximately 15 percent...
Anybody notice this? :lol:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
...the interesting thing about that turn is that at the start of it, it's 75 feet wide. In the area where the hits the wall, it's roughly 60 feet wide...so the width of the track diminishes by approximately 15 percent...
Anybody notice this? :lol:
He's pretty damn close.

15% of 75 is something like 11.25.

Meaning 15% of 75 feet is 63.75 feet.

In the grand scheme of things 60 feet is approximately 63 feet(though I supposed when measuring to figure out criminal charges there might be a difference).
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clenz wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:
Anybody notice this? :lol:
He's pretty damn close.

15% of 75 is something like 11.25.

Meaning 15% of 75 feet is 63.75 feet.

In the grand scheme of things 60 feet is approximately 63 feet(though I supposed when measuring to figure out criminal charges there might be a difference).
I think he got his "feet" and "percent" crossed up. The track diminishes by 15 feet or 20 percent. He mixed and matched. :lol:
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That's some cold ass shit, nigga. :lol:
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Danica takes out half the field early at Michigan. No excuse. Just can't drive. :ohno:
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93henfan wrote:Danica takes out half the field early at Michigan. No excuse. Just can't drive. :ohno:
Before today's race, I read that she's had 56 wrecks in 130 starts. Today's makes it 57/131 (43.5%).

I'm sure the rest of the field loves her...
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93henfan wrote:Danica takes out half the field early at Michigan. No excuse. Just can't drive. :ohno:
Before today's race, I read that she's had 56 wrecks in 130 starts. Today's makes it 57/131 (43.5%).

I'm sure the rest of the field loves her...
I could understand rookie blunders... when you're a ROOKIE.

Open wheel cars (which she came from) have a much higher contact patch and a much lighter weight, so when you are in the middle of a turn you are firmly planted. Sprint Cup cars are WAY heavier and get significant aero effect from other cars, so you do not screw around when you are turning at 180+ mph. Today at Michigan, she decided to split two columns of cars mid-turn. WHAT. THE. FUCK. WOMAN?!? Her car immediately became aero-loose, her rear tires lost traction, and she bounced off the outside column. :dunce:
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93henfan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Before today's race, I read that she's had 56 wrecks in 130 starts. Today's makes it 57/131 (43.5%).

I'm sure the rest of the field loves her...
I could understand rookie blunders... when you're a ROOKIE.

Open wheel cars (which she came from) have a much higher contact patch and a much lighter weight, so when you are in the middle of a turn you are firmly planted. Sprint Cup cars are WAY heavier and get significant aero effect from other cars, so you do not screw around when you are turning at 180+ mph. Today at Michigan, she decided to split two columns of cars mid-turn. WHAT. THE. ****. WOMAN?!? Her car immediately became aero-loose, her rear tires lost traction, and she bounced off the outside column. :dunce:
Yep. Video of it.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/ ... n-400.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its telling that even SH has given up trying to defend her. Stewart Haas should have let her go last year, not Ryan Newman...
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BDKJMU wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I could understand rookie blunders... when you're a ROOKIE.

Open wheel cars (which she came from) have a much higher contact patch and a much lighter weight, so when you are in the middle of a turn you are firmly planted. Sprint Cup cars are WAY heavier and get significant aero effect from other cars, so you do not screw around when you are turning at 180+ mph. Today at Michigan, she decided to split two columns of cars mid-turn. WHAT. THE. ****. WOMAN?!? Her car immediately became aero-loose, her rear tires lost traction, and she bounced off the outside column. :dunce:
Yep. Video of it.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/ ... n-400.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Its telling that even SH has given up trying to defend her. Stewart Haas should have let her go last year, not Ryan Newman...
She probably makes more money for them than Newman does. Not trying to defend her driving because she has not been good but is still marketable at least for a little while longer though no where where she was last year. If that goes away, then she will have trouble finding a sponsor for this type of a car at this level.
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Stewart not racing at Bristol, 3rd straight Sprint race he'll miss. Wonder when he races again?
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BDKJMU wrote:Stewart not racing at Bristol, 3rd straight Sprint race he'll miss. Wonder when he races again?
When his lawyer tells him. It's certainly not his owner since he owns his team. Sponsors are probably telling him to hold up as well. Exxon-Mobil and Office Depot probably want his name cleared first before he's bill boarding their names around.
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