St Louis Rioting

[Grizalltheway]

We get sidetracked from time to time.

So what did they come up with?

It was caused by too many wops in the area.

Most bad things are.

[CAA Flagship]

We get sidetracked from time to time.

So what did they come up with?

It was caused by too many wops in the area.

Impossible. If that was the case, there would be a decent fucking pizza around here.

[dbackjon]

It was caused by too many wops in the area.

Impossible. If that was the case, there would be a decent fucking pizza around here.

too many in this case is more than zero.

[SDHornet]

28 pages into this thread

If you guys haven't figured out exactly what happened yet, down to the detailed nanosecond then maybe ya'll are doing it wrong.

They already have it figured out on AGS and it only took like 8 pages.

SSsshhhh...we're trying to get houndy to break his Zimmy thread record...don't fuck this up for us.

[houndawg]

28 pages into this thread

If you guys haven't figured out exactly what happened yet, down to the detailed nanosecond then maybe ya'll are doing it wrong.

They already have it figured out on AGS and it only took like 8 pages.

SSsshhhh...we're trying to get houndy to break his Zimmy thread record...don't **** this up for us.

ssssh, be vewy, vewy quiet........

[BDKJMU]

And now I have an answer. According to Johnson's attorney, Wilson backed up because Johnson and Brown said something while he pulled away. This pissed Wilson off so he stopped and backed up.

So we have a strong-armed robbery followed by complete lack of respect to a police officer. Scumbags. The both of them.

..but...but... Johnson is a thug and you can't believe anything he says...

Yep.

"Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report

Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft....

....He has already done multiple media appearances where he falsely claimed Brown was shot by Wilson in the back....

...The St. Louis Post-Dispatch has details about the 2011 charges against Johnson:
During the summer after his first semester at Lincoln, Johnson was charged with a misdemeanor after giving police a false first name after he was arrested on suspicion of theft. He later pleaded guilty.

He was accused of stealing a package containing a backpack belonging to someone else from an apartment complex. When he was arrested in that case, he identified himself as Derrick Johnson and said he was 16.

He is wanted for failing to appear in Jefferson City municipal court to answer to the theft charge, court officials said..."
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170048- ... ce-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He has ZERO credibility. You think the star prosecution witness in the Zimmerman case was bad. Put him on the stand, and any decent defense attorney will rip him to shreds...

[CAA Flagship]

Yup. Johnson is a piece of shit too.

[ChickenMan]

Holder stands with Johnson.. his star witness.

[mainejeff]

There are going to be some very disappointed and angry negroes when the cameras move on..........

[houndawg]

..but...but... Johnson is a thug and you can't believe anything he says...

Yep.

"Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report

Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft....

....He has already done multiple media appearances where he falsely claimed Brown was shot by Wilson in the back....

...The St. Louis Post-Dispatch has details about the 2011 charges against Johnson:
During the summer after his first semester at Lincoln, Johnson was charged with a misdemeanor after giving police a false first name after he was arrested on suspicion of theft. He later pleaded guilty.

He was accused of stealing a package containing a backpack belonging to someone else from an apartment complex. When he was arrested in that case, he identified himself as Derrick Johnson and said he was 16.

He is wanted for failing to appear in Jefferson City municipal court to answer to the theft charge, court officials said..."
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170048- ... ce-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He has ZERO credibility. You think the star prosecution witness in the Zimmerman case was bad. Put him on the stand, and any decent defense attorney will rip him to shreds...

Oh wait... turns out the policeman doesn't have a fractured eye socket.... oh my...

Agreed,Johnson has zero credibility. But it ain't his side of the story thats changing.

[CAA Flagship]

Yep.

"Star Witness In Michael Brown Shooting Charged With Theft, Filing False Police Report

Dorian Johnson, the primary witness to the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, has an outstanding warrant for a 2011 theft in Jefferson City and pleaded guilty for filing a false police report related to that theft....

....He has already done multiple media appearances where he falsely claimed Brown was shot by Wilson in the back....

...The St. Louis Post-Dispatch has details about the 2011 charges against Johnson:
During the summer after his first semester at Lincoln, Johnson was charged with a misdemeanor after giving police a false first name after he was arrested on suspicion of theft. He later pleaded guilty.

He was accused of stealing a package containing a backpack belonging to someone else from an apartment complex. When he was arrested in that case, he identified himself as Derrick Johnson and said he was 16.

He is wanted for failing to appear in Jefferson City municipal court to answer to the theft charge, court officials said..."
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170048- ... ce-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He has ZERO credibility. You think the star prosecution witness in the Zimmerman case was bad. Put him on the stand, and any decent defense attorney will rip him to shreds...

Oh wait... turns out the policeman doesn't have a fractured eye socket.... oh my...

Agreed,Johnson has zero credibility. But it ain't his side of the story thats changing.

You are right. I haven't seen any significant changes yet. But that doesn't mean that his accounts are accurate.

Something set off Wilson. It has to come down to being attacked by Brown after he backed up. I still find it hard to believe that he could back up rapidly and stop on an angle, and be so close to them that he could not open the door beyond an inch or so. The only explanation, other than long odds, is that they approached the vehicle. And if so, what purpose would they have to approach the vehicle, considering they just said something negative to the officer as he drove off? Apologize profusely? I doubt it.

Wilson "reached out and grabbed him by the throat". Or was he fending him off?

How can a nearly 300lb guy not pull away from a one handed grab?

"Hold the cigarellos". That is not something that is said while trying to get away. Sounds more like a timeout in an attack.

Brown "raised his hands in the arr (air)". I'm curious as to how high (although I don't think that will matter in the long run).

I think Wilson is screwed. At this point, the only thing that he can salvage is a good reason for the first couple of shots. I think it will be hard to justify the rest of them, especially if the final shot was from 20+ feet away.

[YoUDeeMan]

Oh wait... turns out the policeman doesn't have a fractured eye socket.... oh my...

Agreed,Johnson has zero credibility. But it ain't his side of the story thats changing.

You are right. I haven't seen any significant changes yet. But that doesn't mean that his accounts are accurate.

Something set off Wilson. It has to come down to being attacked by Brown after he backed up. I still find it hard to believe that he could back up rapidly and stop on an angle, and be so close to them that he could not open the door beyond an inch or so. The only explanation, other than long odds, is that they approached the vehicle. And if so, what purpose would they have to approach the vehicle, considering they just said something negative to the officer as he drove off? Apologize profusely? I doubt it.

Wilson "reached out and grabbed him by the throat". Or was he fending him off?

How can a nearly 300lb guy not pull away from a one handed grab?

"Hold the cigarellos". That is not something that is said while trying to get away. Sounds more like a timeout in an attack.

Brown "raised his hands in the arr (air)". I'm curious as to how high (although I don't think that will matter in the long run).

I think Wilson is screwed. At this point, the only thing that he can salvage is a good reason for the first couple of shots. I think it will be hard to justify the rest of them, especially if the final shot was from 20+ feet away.

300lb raging turd running at you, coming back for more after attacking you and grabbing your gun...and you want to stop shooting exactly when?

It only takes a second or two to run that last 20 feet. If you misjudge, and stop firing, and he gets to you, you're probably dead and can say goodbye to your wife and family.

F that. Empty the chamber and put the dumb azz down.

[CAA Flagship]

You are right. I haven't seen any significant changes yet. But that doesn't mean that his accounts are accurate.

Something set off Wilson. It has to come down to being attacked by Brown after he backed up. I still find it hard to believe that he could back up rapidly and stop on an angle, and be so close to them that he could not open the door beyond an inch or so. The only explanation, other than long odds, is that they approached the vehicle. And if so, what purpose would they have to approach the vehicle, considering they just said something negative to the officer as he drove off? Apologize profusely? I doubt it.

Wilson "reached out and grabbed him by the throat". Or was he fending him off?

How can a nearly 300lb guy not pull away from a one handed grab?

"Hold the cigarellos". That is not something that is said while trying to get away. Sounds more like a timeout in an attack.

Brown "raised his hands in the arr (air)". I'm curious as to how high (although I don't think that will matter in the long run).

I think Wilson is screwed. At this point, the only thing that he can salvage is a good reason for the first couple of shots. I think it will be hard to justify the rest of them, especially if the final shot was from 20+ feet away.

300lb raging turd running at you, coming back for more after attacking you and grabbing your gun...and you want to stop shooting exactly when?

It only takes a second or two to run that last 20 feet. If you misjudge, and stop firing, and he gets to you, you're probably dead and can say goodbye to your wife and family.

F that. Empty the chamber and put the dumb azz down.

Agree, but can they find someone to testify that he did advance towards the officer?

[CID1990]

28 pages into this thread

If you guys haven't figured out exactly what happened yet, down to the detailed nanosecond then maybe ya'll are doing it wrong.

They already have it figured out on AGS and it only took like 8 pages.

We get sidetracked from time to time.

So what did they come up with?

6.93 of course

[houndawg]

300lb raging turd running at you, coming back for more after attacking you and grabbing your gun...and you want to stop shooting exactly when?

It only takes a second or two to run that last 20 feet. If you misjudge, and stop firing, and he gets to you, you're probably dead and can say goodbye to your wife and family.

F that. Empty the chamber and put the dumb azz down.

Agree, but can they find someone to testify that he did advance towards the officer?

Baby fat. Kid looked like an overcooked Pop n Fresh.

[houndawg]

300lb raging turd running at you, coming back for more after attacking you and grabbing your gun...and you want to stop shooting exactly when?

It only takes a second or two to run that last 20 feet. If you misjudge, and stop firing, and he gets to you, you're probably dead and can say goodbye to your wife and family.

F that. Empty the chamber and put the dumb azz down.

Agree, but can they find someone to testify that he did advance towards the officer?

Sure, how many witnesses do you need?

[CAA Flagship]

Agree, but can they find someone to testify that he did advance towards the officer?

Sure, how many witnesses do you need?

I don't need anyone. We are discussing the investigation and impending trial. The defense might need one though.

Again, I'm not on one side or the other. I would like to see the truth.
Brown and Johnson have proven to be scumbags. That will never change. That is their legacy.
The question is whether Wilson screwed up or not. To date, there has not been anything negatively reported about his past.

[Col Hogan]

Sure, how many witnesses do you need?

I don't need anyone. We are discussing the investigation and impending trial. The defense might need one though.

Again, I'm not on one side or the other. I would like to see the truth.
Brown and Johnson have proven to be scumbags. That will never change. That is their legacy.
The question is whether Wilson screwed up or not. To date, there has not been anything negatively reported about his past.

This...100%

A scumbag like Brown does not deserve to be gunned down simply because he's a scumbag...

Did he put his hands up and the cop crossed over into scumbag-land?
Did the scumbag robber move to the next level and threat hen the cops life forcing him to defend himself?

I don't know...and no one here knows...lots of opinions, but no definite knowledge "beyond a reasonable doubt"...

[houndawg]

Sure, how many witnesses do you need?

I don't need anyone. We are discussing the investigation and impending trial. The defense might need one though.

Again, I'm not on one side or the other. I would like to see the truth.
Brown and Johnson have proven to be scumbags. That will never change. That is their legacy.
The question is whether Wilson screwed up or not. To date, there has not been anything negatively reported about his past.

Yes, I understand. Its called a rhetorical question...

[CAA Flagship]

What are the reasons for excessive force by police? Probably because of crap like this.

The police chief of a small south Texas town was shot dead during a traffic stop on Saturday, a county sheriff said.

Michael Pimentel died of multiple gunshot wounds suffered in a confrontation with a motorist shortly before noon in Elmendorf, a rural community of about 1,500 people just southeast of San Antonio, said Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau.

“We don’t know exactly what ensued between the two individuals but it did result in the suspect firing a weapon that hit the chief several times,” Pamerleau said.

Pimentel was taken by air ambulance to a San Antonio hospital where he died a short time later, she said.

Joshua Manuel Lopez, 24, was taken into custody on charges of capital murder of a police officer, Pamerleau said. When Lopez was stopped, he was wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for graffiti, she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-police-chie ... 59378.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Graffiti. A non-violent crime. But clearly just the tip of the iceberg.
Cigarellos and a punch in the face........

[CAA Flagship]

I don't need anyone. We are discussing the investigation and impending trial. The defense might need one though.

Again, I'm not on one side or the other. I would like to see the truth.
Brown and Johnson have proven to be scumbags. That will never change. That is their legacy.
The question is whether Wilson screwed up or not. To date, there has not been anything negatively reported about his past.

Yes, I understand. Its called a rhetorical question...

And I gave you a rhetorical answer.

[houndawg]

What are the reasons for excessive force by police? Probably because of crap like this.

The police chief of a small south Texas town was shot dead during a traffic stop on Saturday, a county sheriff said.

Michael Pimentel died of multiple gunshot wounds suffered in a confrontation with a motorist shortly before noon in Elmendorf, a rural community of about 1,500 people just southeast of San Antonio, said Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau.

“We don’t know exactly what ensued between the two individuals but it did result in the suspect firing a weapon that hit the chief several times,” Pamerleau said.

Pimentel was taken by air ambulance to a San Antonio hospital where he died a short time later, she said.

Joshua Manuel Lopez, 24, was taken into custody on charges of capital murder of a police officer, Pamerleau said. When Lopez was stopped, he was wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for graffiti, she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/texas-police-chie ... 59378.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Graffiti. A non-violent crime. But clearly just the tip of the iceberg.
Cigarellos and a punch in the face........

Right; at Cliven Bundy's ranch they're jack-booted thugs, in St. Louis they're heros.

We've militarized our police force and they're finding the trouble they want and need to sustain their gig.

[CAA Flagship]

http://news.yahoo.com/michael-brown-cal ... 38494.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Family and friends recall a young man built like a lineman — 6-foot-3, nearly 300 pounds — with a gentle, joking manner. An aspiring rapper who dubbed himself "Big Mike." A fan of computer games, Lil Wayne, Drake, the movie, "Grown Ups 2" and the TV show "Family Guy." A kid who was good at fixing things. A struggling student who buckled down to finish his courses, don his green graduation gown with red sash and cross the stage in August to pick up his diploma.

This can't be true. I heard Sharpton call him "bright". What's his definition of "bright"?

[YoUDeeMan]

http://news.yahoo.com/michael-brown-cal ... 38494.html

Family and friends recall a young man built like a lineman — 6-foot-3, nearly 300 pounds — with a gentle, joking manner. An aspiring rapper who dubbed himself "Big Mike." A fan of computer games, Lil Wayne, Drake, the movie, "Grown Ups 2" and the TV show "Family Guy." A kid who was good at fixing things. A struggling student who buckled down to finish his courses, don his green graduation gown with red sash and cross the stage in August to pick up his diploma.

This can't be true. I heard Sharpton call him "bright". What's his definition of "bright"?

It's Sharpton...to him, the janitor seems bright.

[houndawg]

http://news.yahoo.com/michael-brown-cal ... 38494.html




This can't be true. I heard Sharpton call him "bright". What's his definition of "bright"?

It's Sharpton...to him, the janitor seems bright.

To him the janitor is bright.