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Re: SCOTUS Allows Texas Voter I.D. Law

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Yeah, illegal immigrants will have proof of residency - but, they won't be able to register to vote. So, that really doesn't matter.



I would be fine with voter IDs if they were both easily obtained for everyone and free. Maybe roll them out slowly - don't pass a bill right before a midterm election. Maybe along with the census every eligible voter is issued a voting ID. Conks would hate it because it would cost governments $$... but, they seem fired up enough about voter IDs that maybe they would get over it. Seems like the only compromise that would work.
Like I said earlier, if your state requires it, the state should foot the bill for the ID. Vital Records and the DMV ( or DPS in Texas) should work in tandem. I can't believe that in 2014, with the all the data we have, the DPS can't put this fella's name into a computer, see that he's who he says he is, see the old ID and accept that. But, I guess that opens up a can of worms.
People can change a lot in 14 years. The old ID thing should not be used in any circumstance, other than help in getting a new ID. I still want to know if he is getting any taxpayer funded entitlements, because an ID should be required for them.
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It really is a crock of ****.
No, it isn't. It is an inconvenience for him.

The greater good is served by voter ID.

US citIzens have the right to have their vote counted and not diluted by people who are not entitled to the franchise. This is a purely liberal view, but liberals know it runs counter to their interests, so they oppose it. Talk about hypocrisy.
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Re: SCOTUS Allows Texas Voter I.D. Law

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Any reasonable Person giving it 5 minutes of thought couldn't argue against:

Being required to show some legal state ID to vote

I'm not sure that adding extra steps like special voting cards is a good idea
But having a state issued ID of some kind - required to vote is a reasonable request

:coffee: I haven't heard ONE good argument against it yet
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Chizzang wrote:Any reasonable Person giving it 5 minutes of thought couldn't argue against:

Being required to show some legal state ID to vote

I'm not sure that adding extra steps like special voting cards is a good idea
But having a state issued ID of some kind - required to vote is a reasonable request

:coffee: I haven't heard ONE good argument against it yet
A special card for voting is a bad idea. Having to show a state issued ID to vote, is a good idea.
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Chizzang wrote:Any reasonable Person giving it 5 minutes of thought couldn't argue against:

Being required to show some legal state ID to vote

I'm not sure that adding extra steps like special voting cards is a good idea
But having a state issued ID of some kind - required to vote is a reasonable request

:coffee: I haven't heard ONE good argument against it yet
Its all a smokescreen to divert attention from where the real fraud occurs - electronic voting machines. Now if conks were glass half-full types they'd make lemonade out of the situation. All them illegal votes can be turned into illegal conk votes with a few key strokes.... really, all this negative Nancy stuff..... :ohno:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
He cashes in scrap metal. He makes about $20 a day - the cost of the birth certificate.

Yes, he's very poor.

And, a poor black man may not be much of a sympathetic figure to y'all. There was another story of a 93 year old veteran being turned away because of a lack of photo ID. His drivers license expired years ago.

It really is a crock of shit.
Only you would think that his situation is a crock of shit that wasn't built by himself.

If voting was so important to this guy, then he'd find a way to get an ID. Instead, he purchases cigarettes. He decided to cast a vote for cigarettes.

BTW, if he is filling out a tax form, the guy gets money back from the government. Essentilly, the government, actually the rest of us hard working taxpayers, are GIVING the guy money which he could use to vote.

If he doesn't fill out a tax form, then he is committing a crime and making the rest of us pay for his arse. I don't give a rat's behind about people who don't pay their fair share (that must make me a Liberal :lol: ).
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Aaaannnd another case of Dems caught redhanded throwing an election...

...in Boulder County, CO...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/29/democ ... -colorado/

Dems win elections through voter fraud.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
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I wonder what's preventing him from getting a real job.
His job pays him enough to afford cable TV. :coffee:
The basic necessities that people NEED to have.

How is he paying for his home on $20 a day? :suspicious:

If being a "scrapper" is his job, when was the last time he filled out a income tax form? :suspicious:

If he's getting welfare benefits, wouldn't his cash only job disqualify him or lower the amount of benefits he would recieve? (Maybe that's why...scratch that, thats exactly why he's a Dem voter) :coffee:

Either way, clearly there are alot more questions than answers now from this article.
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Chizzang wrote:Any reasonable Person giving it 5 minutes of thought couldn't argue against:

Being required to show some legal state ID to vote

I'm not sure that adding extra steps like special voting cards is a good idea
But having a state issued ID of some kind - required to vote is a reasonable request

:coffee: I haven't heard ONE good argument against it yet
That's because there's no good argument against it! :thumb:
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Here's how the donks are the ultimate hypocrites on this: They are against showing an ID to vote, but they require a govt issued ID to gain entry into the DNC convention.. :roll:
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Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
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BDKJMU wrote:Here's how the donks are the ultimate hypocrites on this: They are against showing an ID to vote, but they require a govt issued ID to gain entry into the DNC convention.. :roll:
http://www.inquisitr.com/321278/democra ... -photo-id/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's so they don't have let any poor folks in. :roll:
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Just for the sake of balance...
I spoke with Dolores Internicola in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., ground zero for the voter-purge efforts of embattled Republican Gov. Rick Scott. She lost her husband, Bill, recently. He was in the news in 2012, when, at the age of 91, Bill received an official notice in the mail that his citizenship was in question, and he would have to prove it or be kicked off the voter rolls. As a World War II veteran who fought in the Battle of the Bulge, the native New Yorker was upset to hear that he couldn’t participate in the vote that he helped defend against Nazi Germany. “It was terrible,” his widow recalled. Bill did get to vote in the 2012 elections, but millions are now threatened with similar, arbitrary disenfranchisement this year.

Investigative journalist Greg Palast, along with documentary filmmaker Richard Rowley, crisscrossed the country, documenting the impact of the Crosscheck Program. His critical investigative reporting of the now-legendary electoral debacle in Florida in 2000 helped expose how Florida’s then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris oversaw massive, erroneous voter purges there, giving the presidency to George W. Bush in what remains the most controversial presidential election in U.S. history.

“Now, it’s a decade and a half later, and I’m hearing the cry of ‘voter fraud. There’s a million people committing voter fraud.’ Is there really this big crime wave?” Palast asks in his two-part special on alleged “double voting” produced for Al-Jazeera America.

The Crosscheck system described by Palast started with Kansas Republican Secretary of State Kris Kobach. It takes electronic records of voters from participating states, collects them in a centralized database in Arkansas and attempts to match individual voters who might have voted in more than one state. This “double voting” was responsible, according to conservative commentator Dick Morris, for 1 million fraudulent votes for Barack Obama, allowing him to “steal the election” in 2012. Yet, as Palast reports, there has not been a single successful prosecution of electoral fraud as a result of the Crosscheck system. Rather, Crosscheck has led to massive purges of eligible voters from the rolls, often based on sloppy data.
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Here's how the donks are the ultimate hypocrites on this: They are against showing an ID to vote, but they require a govt issued ID to gain entry into the DNC convention.. :roll:
http://www.inquisitr.com/321278/democra ... -photo-id/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's so they don't have let any poor folks in. :roll:
And keep the right wing militia terrorists out. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:Just for the sake of balance...
I spoke with Dolores Internicola in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., ground zero for the voter-purge efforts of embattled Republican Gov. Rick Scott. She lost her husband, Bill, recently. He was in the news in 2012, when, at the age of 91, Bill received an official notice in the mail that his citizenship was in question, and he would have to prove it or be kicked off the voter rolls. As a World War II veteran who fought in the Battle of the Bulge, the native New Yorker was upset to hear that he couldn’t participate in the vote that he helped defend against Nazi Germany. “It was terrible,” his widow recalled. Bill did get to vote in the 2012 elections, but millions are now threatened with similar, arbitrary disenfranchisement this year.

Investigative journalist Greg Palast, along with documentary filmmaker Richard Rowley, crisscrossed the country, documenting the impact of the Crosscheck Program. His critical investigative reporting of the now-legendary electoral debacle in Florida in 2000 helped expose how Florida’s then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris oversaw massive, erroneous voter purges there, giving the presidency to George W. Bush in what remains the most controversial presidential election in U.S. history.

“Now, it’s a decade and a half later, and I’m hearing the cry of ‘voter fraud. There’s a million people committing voter fraud.’ Is there really this big crime wave?” Palast asks in his two-part special on alleged “double voting” produced for Al-Jazeera America.

The Crosscheck system described by Palast started with Kansas Republican Secretary of State Kris Kobach. It takes electronic records of voters from participating states, collects them in a centralized database in Arkansas and attempts to match individual voters who might have voted in more than one state. This “double voting” was responsible, according to conservative commentator Dick Morris, for 1 million fraudulent votes for Barack Obama, allowing him to “steal the election” in 2012. Yet, as Palast reports, there has not been a single successful prosecution of electoral fraud as a result of the Crosscheck system. Rather, Crosscheck has led to massive purges of eligible voters from the rolls, often based on sloppy data.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/ ... right-vote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:

A direct reflection of how much interest 'mericans have in voting. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
Oh, yeah. Because there is a groundswell against showing ID's at gun fairs. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
Oh, yeah. Because there is a groundswell against showing ID's at gun fairs. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You're an idiot, 'dawg.
"Groundswell"?
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh, yeah. Because there is a groundswell against showing ID's at gun fairs. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You're an idiot, 'dawg.
"Groundswell"?
groundswell: a buildup of opinion or feeling in a large section of the population.
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houndawg wrote:Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
You said that last week and faceplanted, why would you do it again? :dunce:
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
You said that last week and faceplanted, why would you do it again? :dunce:
Because he's an idiot.*

* You want me to define THAT word for you to, 'dawg? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington... you're making this too easy Jelly. 8-)
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:Show ID at the poll - protecting our freedom.

Show ID at a gun fair - attacking our freedom.
You said that last week and faceplanted, why would you do it again? :dunce:
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Lawsuit filed in Maryland alleging massive voter fraud in Frederick County, possibly statewide...

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/10/29/ma ... -maryland/
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travelinman67 wrote:Lawsuit filed in Maryland alleging massive voter fraud in Frederick County, possibly statewide...

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/10/29/ma ... -maryland/
One in seven Maryland residents are non-U.S. citizens.
I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that one. :coffee:
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If there was ever a case of "both sides of the debate being full of sh!t" this would be it...

a) Yes State issued ID's are a reasonable request
b) I think there's an exaggeration in the total effects of voter fraud

I kinda think BOTH sides are pushing the "settle down there" meme pretty hard...

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