Sykes: Limbaugh Was 20th Hijacker

[AZGrizFan]

This is why I don't like politics. Each side is only interested in their own agenda and hoping the other side fucks up so they can say "I told you so". Politics should be about helping the country not the political party.

Sly and TTBF - read these threads, this is exactly what I'm trying to teach Z, Hogan and T!! All three have given up since McShitforbrains lost. All three have been relegated to chronic whining, bitching about every percieved slight or blunder by the democrats, and being just plain nasty and unpleasant human beings.

I'm trying to help them.

Would you like me to send you screen shots of the last 8 years of YOUR chronic, bitching and whining?

Jesus. Your double standard knows no bounds....Ted.

[Purple For Life]

D, I don't disagree with you that there is a marked difference between opposition to Bush and opposition to Obama. however, the thread was originally about a slightly off color joke told by wanda sykes.

to address your point and enter this conversation... I'll say this as a liberal who really disliked Bush. My hostility toward Bush came from the FACT that he failed... not a desire to see him do so. I wasn't hoping for things to go wrong under Bush... I just SMH when they did. by the end, i just couldn't be bothered to care about what he'd f'd up.

for conks to claim that about Obama at this point in his administration is pure, unbridled bullshit. he hasn't been president 4 months even... he hasn't squandered a world largely united behind our cause by invading a country that didnt attack us... he hasn't goaded the world and alienated everyone with an attitude drived from Team America... he hasn't let an American city drown, because he dismantled FEMA.

Fact is, most liberals (not all certainly) weren't hoping from day one that Bush would fail and that, by extension, the country would. Much of the anger and frustration from the left came from squandered opportunities, mistakes and malice. an administration that was so hyper-political that it moved the paradigm for just how vindictive a white house could be with it's political rivals.

so much of the screaming about obama seems to stem from the simple fact that he was elected... which speaks to the conservative sense of entitlement to power... their anger and vitriol seems to boil down to "he's changing things that we did... and that's not fair... even though he was elected by a clear majority of Americans on a platform of 'change'" so I'll say something that conks used to scream at us for 7 years... if you dont like it... geeet out (only slightly in jest) or... more accurately, get your shit together and convince the American people that somehow your ideas don't just boil down to Gordon Gecko's "greed is good" speech.

good luck with that.

POST OF A LIFETIME NOMINATION.

[AZGrizFan]

D, I don't disagree with you that there is a marked difference between opposition to Bush and opposition to Obama. however, the thread was originally about a slightly off color joke told by wanda sykes.

to address your point and enter this conversation... I'll say this as a liberal who really disliked Bush. My hostility toward Bush came from the FACT that he failed... not a desire to see him do so. I wasn't hoping for things to go wrong under Bush... I just SMH when they did. by the end, i just couldn't be bothered to care about what he'd f'd up.

for conks to claim that about Obama at this point in his administration is pure, unbridled bullshit. he hasn't been president 4 months even... he hasn't squandered a world largely united behind our cause by invading a country that didnt attack us... he hasn't goaded the world and alienated everyone with an attitude drived from Team America... he hasn't let an American city drown, because he dismantled FEMA.

Fact is, most liberals (not all certainly) weren't hoping from day one that Bush would fail and that, by extension, the country would. Much of the anger and frustration from the left came from squandered opportunities, mistakes and malice. an administration that was so hyper-political that it moved the paradigm for just how vindictive a white house could be with it's political rivals.

so much of the screaming about obama seems to stem from the simple fact that he was elected... which speaks to the conservative sense of entitlement to power... their anger and vitriol seems to boil down to "he's changing things that we did... and that's not fair... even though he was elected by a clear majority of Americans on a platform of 'change'" so I'll say something that conks used to scream at us for 7 years... if you dont like it... geeet out (only slightly in jest) or... more accurately, get your shit together and convince the American people that somehow your ideas don't just boil down to Gordon Gecko's "greed is good" speech.

good luck with that.

POST OF A LIFETIME NOMINATION.

I'd rather we have a platform of "greed is good" than the Communist manifesto. But, to each his own.

[D1B]

POST OF A LIFETIME NOMINATION.

I'd rather we have a platform of "greed is good" than the Communist manifesto. But, to each his own.

[Appaholic]

Why do Republican's now want the country to fail? Where's is their patritoism? Why do they want this country to fail and by extension, our troops to fail? Why do Republican's hate America?

[ASUG8]

This dead horse has been beaten into a gelatinous puddle of goo

I'm a fiscal conservative, but hardly would align myself with Limbaugh - he's a loose cannon. I'm also enough of a free thinker to realize and admit mistakes. Post 9/11, the American public demanded some action, and as I remember it his popularity soared after the first salvo was launched in Iraq. When Saddam was yanked out of his little cubbyhole, the public was again extremely pleased. That being said, did we attack the right country? IMO we didn't, W was finishing up what his father didn't. If we had gone after the other members of the axis of evil this war would have been exponentially worse, and I don't think either of them had any involvement in 9/11. Bush/Cheney had a number of missteps over the years post 9/11 but keep in mind that Congress overwhelmingly approved the invasion, then the Dems started trying to distance themselves from it over the last couple of years.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/iraq.us/

According to Gallup, Congressional approval is increasing although primarily fueled by Democratic opinion. This is essentially the same Congress that garnered a 14% approval last year, only led by a Democratic president:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116530/Appro ... -Dems.aspx

The bottom line is that neither party wants to take any blame when things go badly, but all the credit when they go well. No question that Obama's aggressive agenda for the first 100 days made people feel like something was being done, even though many believe that much of it is the wrong thing to do. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on stimulus and see where it takes us, but the piper will demand payment at some time. I hope this very costly experiment pays off.

[Wedgebuster]

Just send the bill to the gazillionares that were born by the Bush Administration, they benefited by the financial demise of our country, and they can damn well pay for it.

[D1B]

Why do Republican's now want the country to fail? Where's is their patritoism? Why do they want this country to fail and by extension, our troops to fail? Why do Republican's hate America?

They have a warped vision of America. They're arrogant. They, at all costs, believe government is bad and work very hard to ensure that government fails. They believe entirely that the free market can be entrusted with our national wealth. They are religious and thus inherently violent and intolerant.

[UNI88]

Donk double standard. You are priceless...

McCain lost, get over it. Give Obama a chance. It's only been a few months and he was handed over one fvcking wreck of nation by your boy W and Congress (Republican and Democrat).

I think you will be happy with Obama, in time. He aint a lefty.

You really look like an ass getting on his case so early.

Edited for accuracy.

Did Bush fVck up? You bet he did but he didn't do it alone, Congress played a major role in the current economic crisis. The economy is cyclical and the current downturn was going to happen whether Bush or Gore or Kerry was President. Raw greed was definitely a factor in the current downturn but it was singnificantly exasperated by home lending crisis (brought on by the belief by Congress, ACORN, Fannie Mae, etc. that everyone should own a home regardless of whether they could actually afford the loan), the problems at the Big 3 automanufacturers (brought on by the greed of management and the UAW), etc.

To blame the economic sh!tstorm we're currently suffering under completely on Bush is disingenuous at best. To blame everything on Bush and to set out to fix everything that he fvcked up without acknowledging the other points of failure is self serving and decidely "unprogressive."

IMO, Bush was a collosal failure as a President but he was not the anti-Christ (that was Cheney ). I'm willing to give Obama a chance but Change I Can Believe In includes Democrats looking in the mirror and admitting that they are also culpable in the current situation and then trying to fix the entire problem not just the part attributable to the other side of the aisle.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm willing to give Obama a chance but Change I Can Believe In includes Democrats looking in the mirror and admitting that they are also culpable in the current situation and then trying to fix the entire problem not just the part attributable to the other side of the aisle.

Well, 88, don't hold your hand on your ass waiting for THAT to happen.

[Appaholic]

I'm willing to give Obama a chance but Change I Can Believe In includes Democrats looking in the mirror and admitting that they are also culpable in the current situation and then trying to fix the entire problem not just the part attributable to the other side of the aisle.

Well, 88, don't hold your hand on your ass waiting for THAT to happen.

Agree....dem congress is too busy patting themselves on the back for getting Obama elected through their hard work and effective results...

[SeattleGriz]

I absolutely agree..!!!
It's what we've become - it's who we are now...

This is a disturbing trend in American culture all the way around

Rush is a grotesquely fat - synthetic heroin addict - fear mongering fraud, but he's not different in regards to wanting failure any more than 75% of the Liberals over the past 8 years

It cannot be successfully argued that Conservatives and Liberals are different in this regard

Oh, bullshit. W's string of failures started almost immediately. After 9/11, everybody supported him. He squandered it and masterminded 7 years of mind boggling blunders.

Yes, everyone did support Bush. Then the Dems went all Pelosi on him. Initial support due to the nature of 9/11, then when distanced far enough out, start up the rhetoric that got delayed (stolen elections) because of 9/11.

I believe the latest actions of Pelosi are proof enough of the Democrats intentions towards Bush, past and present. Trying to bust GW on something 65 congressional people were informed of.

Secondly, how does one even qualify a mind boggling blunder?

[Cap'n Cat]

Democrats wanted the country to fail for 8 years. Hoped and PRAYED nothing would go right for Bush. Why should Rush be any different NOW? Typical donk double standard bs...

I absolutely agree..!!!
It's what we've become - it's who we are now...

This is a disturbing trend in American culture all the way around

Rush is a grotesquely fat - synthetic heroin addict - fear mongering fraud, but he's not different in regards to wanting failure any more than 75% of the Liberals over the past 8 years

It cannot be successfully argued that Conservatives and Liberals are different in this regard

Agreed.

[Cap'n Cat]

McCain lost, get over it. Give Obama a chance. It's only been a few months and he was handed over one fvcking wreck of nation by your boy W and Congress (Republican and Democrat).

I think you will be happy with Obama, in time. He aint a lefty.

You really look like an ass getting on his case so early.

Edited for accuracy.

Did Bush fVck up? You bet he did but he didn't do it alone, Congress played a major role in the current economic crisis. The economy is cyclical and the current downturn was going to happen whether Bush or Gore or Kerry was President. Raw greed was definitely a factor in the current downturn but it was singnificantly exasperated by home lending crisis (brought on by the belief by Congress, ACORN, Fannie Mae, etc. that everyone should own a home regardless of whether they could actually afford the loan), the problems at the Big 3 automanufacturers (brought on by the greed of management and the UAW), etc.

To blame the economic sh!tstorm we're currently suffering under completely on Bush is disingenuous at best. To blame everything on Bush and to set out to fix everything that he fvcked up without acknowledging the other points of failure is self serving and decidely "unprogressive."

IMO, Bush was a collosal failure as a President but he was not the anti-Christ (that was Cheney ). I'm willing to give Obama a chance but Change I Can Believe In includes Democrats looking in the mirror and admitting that they are also culpable in the current situation and then trying to fix the entire problem not just the part attributable to the other side of the aisle.

88,
At the risk of earning another penalty, feedback that many of your posts have shit we reviewed long ago and are painfully obvious.

Other than that, love ya, Cuddles.

[AZGrizFan]

88,
At the risk of earning another penalty, feedback that many of your posts have shit we reviewed long ago and are painfully obvious.

Other than that, love ya, Cuddles.

Hey, he did a pretty good job of summing up about 2 years worth of "review". Get off his back, Myron.

[Cap'n Cat]

88,
At the risk of earning another penalty, feedback that many of your posts have shit we reviewed long ago and are painfully obvious.

Other than that, love ya, Cuddles.

Hey, he did a pretty good job of summing up about 2 years worth of "review". Get off his back, Myron.

Tryin' to make him my board bitch since you got uppity and left.




Anyway, was reading one or two of your posts in this, Z, and I gotta say, as a liberal, that the only time I reveled , as you say, in a Bush miscue, was on here for effect with Conk opponents

Hey, honest to God, I hurt for him and I hurt for his family and I hurt for the country something went wrong. As D1B said, not everyone is such an asshole that someone else's failure is, somehow, their success. Know what I mean? And, I'll venture to guess that most liberals felt the same way. Give us credit for most of us being decent citizens. I've mentioned it here, too, that I admired the guy for his guts.

Very few idiots "reveled, guys.

[AZGrizFan]

Hey, he did a pretty good job of summing up about 2 years worth of "review". Get off his back, Myron.

Tryin' to make him my board bitch since you got uppity and left.




Anyway, was reading one or two of your posts in this, Z, and I gotta say, as a liberal, that the only time I reveled , as you say, in a Bush miscue, was on here for effect with Conk opponents

Hey, honest to God, I hurt for him and I hurt for his family and I hurt for the country something went wrong. As D1B said, not everyone is such an asshole that someone else's failure is, somehow, their success. Know what I mean? And, I'll venture to guess that most liberals felt the same way. Give us credit for most of us being decent citizens. I've mentioned it here, too, that I admired the guy for his guts.

Very few idiots "reveled, guys.

Well, since the only response I know of for you (and other guys like you) is how you respond "on here"
you'll excuse me if I don't start screaming "mea culpa" from the mountaintops. And I just can't get into the swing of the double-standard thing.....we're only doing what donks did for 8 years. IF there was a lovefest going on "behind the scenes", it never (or rarely) showed up on these boards.

Peace.

[Cap'n Cat]

Tryin' to make him my board bitch since you got uppity and left.




Anyway, was reading one or two of your posts in this, Z, and I gotta say, as a liberal, that the only time I reveled , as you say, in a Bush miscue, was on here for effect with Conk opponents

Hey, honest to God, I hurt for him and I hurt for his family and I hurt for the country something went wrong. As D1B said, not everyone is such an asshole that someone else's failure is, somehow, their success. Know what I mean? And, I'll venture to guess that most liberals felt the same way. Give us credit for most of us being decent citizens. I've mentioned it here, too, that I admired the guy for his guts.

Very few idiots "reveled, guys.

Well, since the only response I know of for you (and other guys like you) is how you respond "on here"
you'll excuse me if I don't start screaming "mea culpa" from the mountaintops. And I just can't get into the swing of the double-standard thing.....we're only doing what donks did for 8 years. IF there was a lovefest going on "behind the scenes", it never (or rarely) showed up on these boards.

Peace.

There was no love fest, Z. I'm an American like you and I guarantee that if it hurt you, it hurt me, too.

[AZGrizFan]

Well, since the only response I know of for you (and other guys like you) is how you respond "on here"
you'll excuse me if I don't start screaming "mea culpa" from the mountaintops. And I just can't get into the swing of the double-standard thing.....we're only doing what donks did for 8 years. IF there was a lovefest going on "behind the scenes", it never (or rarely) showed up on these boards.

Peace.

There was no love fest, Z. I'm an American like you and I guarantee that if it hurt you, it hurt me, too.

Fair enough.

[citdog]

there are those of us who have wanted this country to fail since 1861 and it appears that we juat may get our wish.


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