Netanyahu Win! Bibi Beats Barack's Blitz!

[houndawg]

Well, technically he does still need to form a coalition government, although considering that Israel has always had a coalition government and with Likud winning even more seats this time than before, you would expect that it won't be a big deal getting one formed. Maybe they'll congratulate him once he does form the government?

I wouldn't hold my breath. The last second "No Palestinian State" was a big middle finger to Barry's face.

Time for Barry to recognize a Palestinian State. Bibi needs to be taken to school about who is the superpower and who is the piss ant that exists at the whim of that superpower. We don't need mid east oil and we don't need the Israelis. Time to move on.

[Grizalltheway]

Well, technically he does still need to form a coalition government, although considering that Israel has always had a coalition government and with Likud winning even more seats this time than before, you would expect that it won't be a big deal getting one formed. Maybe they'll congratulate him once he does form the government?

I wouldn't hold my breath. The last second "No Palestinian State" was a big middle finger to Barry's face.

It was also a desperation move to woo the T-mans of Israel, i.e. myopic, right wing assholes.

[andy7171]

Desperate attempt? Desperate, implies hopeless. Attempt, after the fact, implies he failed.

[andy7171]

I wouldn't hold my breath. The last second "No Palestinian State" was a big middle finger to Barry's face.

Time for Barry to recognize a Palestinian State. Bibi needs to be taken to school about who is the superpower and who is the piss ant that exists at the whim of that superpower. We don't need mid east oil and we don't need the Israelis. Time to move on.

That would be interesting. How would he carve it out, take the land and then enforce occupation? That would one up what Bush did in Iraq. And, well, I think we all know how the left feels about that sort of thing.

[kalm]

Why should he?

It's the right thing to do.

Had Herzog won, Obama would have personally flown to Tel Aviv and fellated Herzog in public.

Troof!

So we're back to the "right thing to do" regarding US - Israeli relations now?

[travelinman67]

Time for Barry to recognize a Palestinian State. Bibi needs to be taken to school about who is the superpower and who is the piss ant that exists at the whim of that superpower. We don't need mid east oil and we don't need the Israelis. Time to move on.

That would be interesting. How would he carve it out, take the land and then enforce occupation? That would one up what Bush did in Iraq. And, well, I think we all know how the left feels about that sort of thing.

Moreso...there are 10 million Jews in the U.S.

Let Barry intervene in Israel then watch what happens in the next election cycle...

This is a paradigm you young 'uns just don't comprehend...

...you just can't fuck with Israel without facing the consequences.

Watch.

Iran is about to learn this lesson.

[houndawg]

Time for Barry to recognize a Palestinian State. Bibi needs to be taken to school about who is the superpower and who is the piss ant that exists at the whim of that superpower. We don't need mid east oil and we don't need the Israelis. Time to move on.

That would be interesting. How would he carve it out, take the land and then enforce occupation? That would one up what Bush did in Iraq. And, well, I think we all know how the left feels about that sort of thing.

He doesn't have to carve anything out all he has to do is recognize a Palestinian government. Poke in the eye for poke in the eye. And make them squeal before they get their hand out this year. We don't need them, they need us.

[houndawg]

That would be interesting. How would he carve it out, take the land and then enforce occupation? That would one up what Bush did in Iraq. And, well, I think we all know how the left feels about that sort of thing.

Moreso...there are 10 million Jews in the U.S.

Let Barry intervene in Israel then watch what happens in the next election cycle...

This is a paradigm you young 'uns just don't comprehend...

...you just can't **** with Israel without facing the consequences.

Watch.

Iran is about to learn this lesson.

The next election cycle doesn't affect this President, he can stick it to Israel for the rest of his term and Iran will notice that if we do that to friends they sure as hell don't want to be our enemy. They want to be pals like we used to be in the good ol' days.

[travelinman67]

Moreso...there are 10 million Jews in the U.S.

Let Barry intervene in Israel then watch what happens in the next election cycle...

This is a paradigm you young 'uns just don't comprehend...

...you just can't **** with Israel without facing the consequences.

Watch.

Iran is about to learn this lesson.

The next election cycle doesn't affect this President, he can stick it to Israel for the rest of his term and Iran will notice that if we do that to friends they sure as hell don't want to be our enemy. They want to be pals like we used to be in the good ol' days.

Irrelevant.

Were Herr Obama ATTEMPT to force a Palestinian state upon the region, the Democrat Party would vanish to become an academic footnote in U.S. History and Political Science textbooks.

The land has and will always belong to the State of Israel. There's plenty of land in North Africa for the Palestinian people to call home.

[houndawg]

The next election cycle doesn't affect this President, he can stick it to Israel for the rest of his term and Iran will notice that if we do that to friends they sure as hell don't want to be our enemy. They want to be pals like we used to be in the good ol' days.

Irrelevant.

Were Herr Obama ATTEMPT to force a Palestinian state upon the region, the Democrat Party would vanish to become an academic footnote in U.S. History and Political Science textbooks.

The land has and will always belong to the State of Israel. There's plenty of land in North Africa for the Palestinian people to call home.

Palestinians were there long before there was such a thing as Judaism.

Obama doesn't have to force anything, all he has to do is invite Palestinian leaders to the White House, and to address Congress.

Wouldn't that be cool!

[andy7171]

That would be interesting. How would he carve it out, take the land and then enforce occupation? That would one up what Bush did in Iraq. And, well, I think we all know how the left feels about that sort of thing.

He doesn't have to carve anything out all he has to do is recognize a Palestinian government. Poke in the eye for poke in the eye. And make them squeal before they get their hand out this year. We don't need them, they need us.

What land? Good luck recognizing a government without land and boundaries.

[andy7171]

Irrelevant.

Were Herr Obama ATTEMPT to force a Palestinian state upon the region, the Democrat Party would vanish to become an academic footnote in U.S. History and Political Science textbooks.

The land has and will always belong to the State of Israel. There's plenty of land in North Africa for the Palestinian people to call home.

Palestinians were there long before there was such a thing as Judaism.

Obama doesn't have to force anything, all he has to do is invite Palestinian leaders to the White House, and to address Congress.

Wouldn't that be cool!

Let's hope the Redskins aren't reading this. We're all fucked!

[Grizalltheway]

The next election cycle doesn't affect this President, he can stick it to Israel for the rest of his term and Iran will notice that if we do that to friends they sure as hell don't want to be our enemy. They want to be pals like we used to be in the good ol' days.

Irrelevant.

Were Herr Obama ATTEMPT to force a Palestinian state upon the region, the Democrat Party would vanish to become an academic footnote in U.S. History and Political Science textbooks.

The land has and will always belong to the State of Israel. There's plenty of land in North Africa for the Palestinian people to call home.

Still talking out of your ass.

61 percent of American Jews agree that "there a way for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully. Compare this to 50 percent of the American public.

The biggest supporters of a two-state solution are secular Jews (72 percent), Conservative Jews (62 percent) and Reform Jews (58 percent).

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[houndawg]

He doesn't have to carve anything out all he has to do is recognize a Palestinian government. Poke in the eye for poke in the eye. And make them squeal before they get their hand out this year. We don't need them, they need us.

What land? Good luck recognizing a government without land and boundaries.

We can recognize whoever we want to recognize, Andy, land or no land. We can do whatever we want. You sound so.... old Europe.
The Democrats would probably like to invite them to speak to Congress too, in the interest of hearing both sides of the story. You wouldn't want your fellow citizens to only get one side of the story would you?

[travelinman67]

Densedawg: Making up nonsense and spouting it as fact.

BrownShirt: Sourcing WAPO as the baseline for Jewish opinion.

[Ibanez]

Densedawg: Making up nonsense and spouting it as fact.

BrownShirt: Sourcing WAPO as the baseline for Jewish opinion.

Regardless of the paper, it's using Pew Research statistics. Is Pew not reputable?

[Grizalltheway]

Densedawg: Making up nonsense and spouting it as fact.

BrownShirt: Sourcing WAPO as the baseline for Jewish opinion.

Regardless of the paper, it's using Pew Research statistics. Is Pew not reputable?

Not if he doesn't agree with the results, obviously.

[travelinman67]

Densedawg: Making up nonsense and spouting it as fact.

BrownShirt: Sourcing WAPO as the baseline for Jewish opinion.

Regardless of the paper, it's using Pew Research statistics. Is Pew not reputable?

Well, no, Pew is not reliable...they have an agenda...

...BUT...more importantly...READ THE PEW STUDY (.pdf)...in a small section, it asks respondents about whether they believe the land was given to Israel by God. Additionally it asks about west bank settlements interference with the peace process.
It appears the inferences referenced by this WAPO blogger were either from another unnamed "study", OR fabricated extrapolations allegedly derived from the Pew data.

Please...read.

[Ibanez]

Regardless of the paper, it's using Pew Research statistics. Is Pew not reputable?

Well, no, Pew is not reliable...they have an agenda...

...BUT...more importantly...READ THE PEW STUDY (.pdf)...in a small section, it asks respondents about whether they believe the land was given to Israel by God. Additionally it asks about west bank settlements interference with the peace process.
It appears the inferences referenced by this WAPO blogger were either from another unnamed "study", OR fabricated extrapolations allegedly derived from the Pew data.

Please...read.

Everyone has an agenda. I'm sure if this were put out by the Heritage Foundation, you'd be praising it.

I'm beginning to believe that you don't trust anybody or anything. I read a little bit of the study, I'm not going to read all of it. I don't have that sort of time nor do I have the desire. Like all news articles, I take it with a grain of salt. Nothing, ever, at full face value.

However, given the religious nature of the study, what is wrong with asking respondents whether they believe the land was given by God? That's often cited as a reason for Israel to exist. They are the chosen people. They were given that land (fought for it). I don't see any problem with those questions. They are important questions as they pertain to the peace between Israel and Palestine.

[andy7171]

What land? Good luck recognizing a government without land and boundaries.

We can recognize whoever we want to recognize, Andy, land or no land. We can do whatever we want. You sound so.... old Europe.
The Democrats would probably like to invite them to speak to Congress too, in the interest of hearing both sides of the story. You wouldn't want your fellow citizens to only get one side of the story would you?

Good luck with that.

[houndawg]

We can recognize whoever we want to recognize, Andy, land or no land. We can do whatever we want. You sound so.... old Europe.
The Democrats would probably like to invite them to speak to Congress too, in the interest of hearing both sides of the story. You wouldn't want your fellow citizens to only get one side of the story would you?

Good luck with that.

You don't have any sense of fun.

[andy7171]

Good luck with that.

You don't have any sense of fun.

I know.

[houndawg]

You don't have any sense of fun.

I know.

You don't think Palestinians addressing Congress would be funny?

[D1B]

The next election cycle doesn't affect this President, he can stick it to Israel for the rest of his term and Iran will notice that if we do that to friends they sure as hell don't want to be our enemy. They want to be pals like we used to be in the good ol' days.

Irrelevant.

Were Herr Obama ATTEMPT to force a Palestinian state upon the region, the Democrat Party would vanish to become an academic footnote in U.S. History and Political Science textbooks.

The land has and will always belong to the State of Israel. There's plenty of land in North Africa for the Palestinian people to call home.

[D1B]

Israel needs to move. Nothing will change untill. Was a bad idea giving them that land.

15million Jews surrounded by A billion homocidal muslims. What a joke.