If a black cop had shot a white man in this manner this wouldn't even be news.mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:The LE pulls over Scott for a brake light, Scott runs (stupid), they struggle and Scott runs.
1) Scott shouldn't have ran
2) Slager shouldn't have shot. He could've speed walked and caught him.
This occured 3 miles from where I work. I may go by this afternoon. Maybe CNN will be out there adding fuel to the fire.
More white excuses. Keep it coming. This only make you look worse. But keep it up. If you say it enough, some dumb azz might just believe you.
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Just out of curiosity, where was the Slager's partner during this whole episode? And if he was patrolling solo, wouldn't he have called for back-up before attempting to arrest Scott? Especially in North Charleston?
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From the video, it looked like the black cop was on scene pretty quickly. I'm not sure if he was in another vehicle or not.Rob Iola wrote:Just out of curiosity, where was the Slager's partner during this whole episode? And if he was patrolling solo, wouldn't he have called for back-up before attempting to arrest Scott? Especially in North Charleston?
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no excuse. I'm explaining the area. You don't live here. And besides, if you took the time to read, you'd see that I've said the cop is in the wrong, you racist prick.mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Did you read what you wrote?
Again, this is North Charleston. North Charleston is like Compton.
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I posted as soon as I saw the thread.dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:Dback, Charleston and North Charleston are two different cities.
I know. I was just seeing how many posts it would take before you pointed that out.
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AZGrizFan wrote:If a black cop had shot a white man in this manner this wouldn't even be news.mrklean wrote:
More white excuses. Keep it coming. This only make you look worse. But keep it up. If you say it enough, some dumb azz might just believe you.
Keep making excuses. Some of you would excuse that action of cops no matter what they did. Some of you sad fvcks think you are being loyal.
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation ... :1:Default" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;WASHINGTON—Describing the murder charges brought against a white South Carolina police officer who was filmed shooting an unarmed black man as an encouraging step in the right direction, the American populace reported Wednesday they were hopeful that future victims of police abuse would have an equally random chance of receiving justice.
“The number of law enforcement officers who have shot unarmed civilians and gone free over the past year has been extremely discouraging, but the fact that this policeman was arrested so swiftly shows that there can be justice for victims so long as a bystander is nearby, has a camera phone on them, captures the whole interaction, and several dozen other circumstances play out in the precise sequence,” said North Charleston, SC resident Jenine Williams, echoing the sentiments of millions of Americans who told reporters they have faith that, as long as a fair-minded eyewitness happens to be passing by at the exact right time; has the inclination to stop and film; an unobstructed view; enough battery life and memory on their phone; a steady hand; the forethought to start filming an interaction with the police before it escalates into violence; is close enough to get detailed footage, but far enough away to avoid being shot themselves or seen by the officer and potentially having their phone confiscated; and it is daytime, then justice would certainly be served.
“I have a 17-year-old son who I worry about every day when he heads out into our neighborhood. But now I can take heart knowing that if, God forbid, he were ever in a situation like this, there would be a tiny fraction of a chance that every single element would fall into place and my family would receive the fair and just legal outcome we deserve.” The nation added that they were also hopeful the situation would change the behavior of police officers by making them look around to see if anyone was filming them before they moved from excessive to lethal force.
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ASUG8 wrote:Jeez man, in your eyes has a black man ever done anything wrong before? I'm not saying he did or didn't in this case and he certainly didn't deserve 8 shots directed at him, but most everyone in this thread has agreed on the cop's overreaction and guilt. You can see that something happened and was dropped before the guy ran but I have no idea what it was and neither do you. I doubt the cop went out hunting a middle aged black guy that day and something likely happened that caused a conflict but again I don't know what that was.mrklean wrote:
More white excuses. Keep it coming. This only make you look worse. But keep it up. If you say it enough, some dumb azz might just believe you.
So the camera is lying. This is nothing new to me. I'm not even surprised. This happens all over the country. A 12 year old boy was shot by a fvcking coward azz cop and NOTHING was done to him. And you wonder why people are so upset. Until Law Enforcement admits that we have a nation wide training problem, this will continue to happen.
Don't get made at me dude, I did not shoot anyone. But real take for a moment. If you really want to blame someone, blame the current Law Enforcement training policy. We are no longer training Law Enforcement officers. We have begun to train armed tax collectors. Having our cops act like soldiers is never acceptable in the eyes of the population they are sworn to protect. Over time, they start looking at the population as the enemy. As i have stated in earlier post, this all started in the Reagan era and the war on drugs. I'm not worried about ISIS, I'm terrified of the militarization of the police force in our country.
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mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:The LE pulls over Scott for a brake light, Scott runs (stupid), they struggle and Scott runs.
1) Scott shouldn't have ran
2) Slager shouldn't have shot. He could've speed walked and caught him.
This occured 3 miles from where I work. I may go by this afternoon. Maybe CNN will be out there adding fuel to the fire.
More white excuses. Keep it coming. This only make you look worse. But keep it up. If you say it enough, some dumb azz might just believe you.
Are you fucking retarded? White excuses? You're such a racist cunt that you can't even understand that I support SLED in arresting and charging the police officer. Why the fuck do you think it's ok for Scott to run for the police and resist arrest?
Then again, you're the dumb motherfucker that declined extra money to partake in a government study.
People like you give blacks a bad name.
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All you saw was a struggle, Scott RUN AWAY FROM THE POLICE and then the police open fire. Did you see what caused the struggle? No. We have one side.mrklean wrote:ASUG8 wrote:
Jeez man, in your eyes has a black man ever done anything wrong before? I'm not saying he did or didn't in this case and he certainly didn't deserve 8 shots directed at him, but most everyone in this thread has agreed on the cop's overreaction and guilt. You can see that something happened and was dropped before the guy ran but I have no idea what it was and neither do you. I doubt the cop went out hunting a middle aged black guy that day and something likely happened that caused a conflict but again I don't know what that was.
So the camera is lying. This is nothing new to me. I'm not even surprised. This happens all over the country. A 12 year old boy was shot by a fvcking coward azz cop and NOTHING was done to him. And you wonder why people are so upset. Until Law Enforcement admits that we have a nation wide training problem, this will continue to happen.
Don't get made at me dude, I did not shoot anyone. But real take for a moment. If you really want to blame someone, blame the current Law Enforcement training policy. We are no longer training Law Enforcement officers. We have begun to train armed tax collectors. Having our cops act like soldiers is never acceptable in the eyes of the population they are sworn to protect. Over time, they start looking at the population as the enemy. As i have stated in earlier post, this all started in the Reagan era and the war on drugs. I'm not worried about ISIS, I'm terrified of the militarization of the police force in our country.
You should really have a 6th grader read this thread and explain it to you, since you fail to comprehend what the fuck is going on.
1) Scott should have obeyed the law. You can't deny that.
2) Slager used excessive force and murdered that man. Plain and simple .
How in the world can you fuck with me on this? All you know is that a black man is dead at the hands of a white cop. That's all you care about. Not the facts. Not the reality.
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If you look at the local news reports, they were already presenting the cops version as gospel before the video surfaced.
Since the cop had already fired the taser, how could the victim have used it against him? I thought those things only had one shot?
Since the cop had already fired the taser, how could the victim have used it against him? I thought those things only had one shot?
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CID1990 wrote:I doubt very seriously Andy would take this case- unless the guy intends to plead guilty.Ibanez wrote:Scott wasn't a track star. This cop could've caught up with him and knocked him down. Maybe Andy Savage will be his attorney.
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... /150409421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Meanwhile, Charleston attorney Andy Savage announced Wednesday that he will represent Slager. The ex-officer’s former attorney, David Aylor, had dropped Slager as a client.
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Article reported 5 hits in 8 shots (or 4 + 1 graze). 50% or 62.5% for a suspect who was running away from the officer. According to what's online, you see hit rates for police shootings reported as ranging from about 17% to 40%...93henfan wrote:Really, the biggest thing I took from all of this is that North Charleston police really need to work on their marksmanship training. That **** couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. He'd have probably done better to throw his sidearm at the black before he got more than five feet away.
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CID1990 wrote:Are you that good of a shot? Because Wild Bill Hickok needs you if you are.bluehenbillk wrote:
Yep, even if there was any type of confrontation that occurred before the video there wasn't any reason for the cop to shoot 8 times at a guy's back who is running away.
Cops need to learn - one shot- in the hamstring - brings the suspect down - non-lethal, non-story.
There probably isn't s single PD in the country that teaches shoot to wound in the legs...Its hard enough for police in shootings to hit center mass. Now you want them to trying to aim for the moving legs of a running suspect?houndawg wrote:If you need to shoo you need to shoot to kill. Half his shots missed from less than 50 ft. anyway, if he was trying to wing him he'd still be shooting. I don't think you realize how hard it is to hit something with a pistol
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Ibanez wrote:CID1990 wrote:
I doubt very seriously Andy would take this case- unless the guy intends to plead guilty.http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... /150409421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Meanwhile, Charleston attorney Andy Savage announced Wednesday that he will represent Slager. The ex-officer’s former attorney, David Aylor, had dropped Slager as a client.
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Tenn v Garner
"..(1985)[1], was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others..."
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IF what has been reported so far is true and from the portion of the incident that is shown on the video, that standard isn't close to being met.
If a guy was runs from the police he should pay a runner's fee (at least get taken down hard). And if he tussles with the police before running he deserves to have his ass beat. But absent any reasonable belief he poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, as appears to be the case here, then shooting him is as he's running away is a step too far, even after the guy resisted and had a warrant to boot.
"..(1985)[1], was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others..."
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IF what has been reported so far is true and from the portion of the incident that is shown on the video, that standard isn't close to being met.
If a guy was runs from the police he should pay a runner's fee (at least get taken down hard). And if he tussles with the police before running he deserves to have his ass beat. But absent any reasonable belief he poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, as appears to be the case here, then shooting him is as he's running away is a step too far, even after the guy resisted and had a warrant to boot.
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I had a change of heart.Ibanez wrote:CID1990 wrote:
I doubt very seriously Andy would take this case- unless the guy intends to plead guilty.http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... /150409421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Meanwhile, Charleston attorney Andy Savage announced Wednesday that he will represent Slager. The ex-officer’s former attorney, David Aylor, had dropped Slager as a client.
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Local news probably took the cops story as truthful because of all the publically flaunted railroad jobs Rev Al and Jesse have been trying to get over on us.
Just saw an interview where Scott's father said his son would always do and did exactly what the police tell him. Then they showed him on film running away from the police. Fail.
That said this cop needs to be thrown in prison for a long time. Pathetic and cowardly.
Just saw an interview where Scott's father said his son would always do and did exactly what the police tell him. Then they showed him on film running away from the police. Fail.
That said this cop needs to be thrown in prison for a long time. Pathetic and cowardly.
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Sort of. If it's a high profile case, he'll take it. He's defended terrorists, mothers that kill their children, a CSU professor that led a Ponzi scheme. Not saying they don't deserve representation but he has a rep.dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... /150409421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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My grandmother could've caught up with Scott.andy7171 wrote:Local news probably took the cops story as truthful because of all the publically flaunted railroad jobs Rev Al and Jesse have been trying to get over on us.
Just saw an interview where Scott's father said his son would always do and did exactly what the police tell him. Then they showed him on film running away from the police. Fail.
That said this cop needs to be thrown in prison for a long time. Pathetic and cowardly.
I get that police are amped up and things happen in the heat of the moment but there is training for this. It's a shame, he's 33 yrs old (right?) and his life is ruined.
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AZGrizFan wrote:If a black cop had shot a white man in this manner this wouldn't even be news.mrklean wrote:
More white excuses. Keep it coming. This only make you look worse. But keep it up. If you say it enough, some dumb azz might just believe you.
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Running from the police deserves a charge of fleeing / resisting arrest.BDKJMU wrote: If a guy was runs from the police he should pay a runner's fee (at least get taken down hard). And if he tussles with the police before running he deserves to have his ass beat.
Cops levying physical punishment during arrest is the problem. Punishment for crimes is supposed to be handled by the courts in a civilized society... not doled out at the whims of a police officer.
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So now that we've properly dissected Act 1, let's talk about Acts 2, 3, and 4, which will all occur with the darkies already agitated and likely whipped into a frenzy by the media and the darkie leaders.
Act 2 - Will the cop be charged with murder? If a lesser charge, how crazy will the darkies get?
Act 3 - If the cop pleas and the deal isn't sufficiently harsh, how crazy will the darkies get?
Act 4 - If there is anything other than a jury verdict of guilty of murder, how crazy will the darkies get?
Act 2 - Will the cop be charged with murder? If a lesser charge, how crazy will the darkies get?
Act 3 - If the cop pleas and the deal isn't sufficiently harsh, how crazy will the darkies get?
Act 4 - If there is anything other than a jury verdict of guilty of murder, how crazy will the darkies get?
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Have you looked in the mirror before? Your posts reek of what you bitch about.mrklean wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
If a black cop had shot a white man in this manner this wouldn't even be news.
Keep making excuses. Some of you would excuse that action of cops no matter what they did. Some of you sad fvcks think you are being loyal.
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