That is not what I implied, but by all means continue to inventkalm wrote:So if we're fired on, Obama has ordered the ships to sit back and take it?CID1990 wrote:
I guarantee with 100% certainty that those ships are on close hold.
Not gonna jeopardize a legacy building foreign policy agreement over something as insignificant as another failed state being cannibalized.
What a pussy.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Really? Cause you were indirectly responding to andy's question as to whether or not they'd be allowed to fire back.CID1990 wrote:That is not what I implied, but by all means continue to inventkalm wrote:
So if we're fired on, Obama has ordered the ships to sit back and take it?
What a pussy.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Congratulations ChizstainChizzang wrote:CID1990 wrote:
I'm wondering why it would take a letter purportedly from an aytollah's nephew to convince us that Iran doesn't act in good faith.
Smart Power TM for the win
Maybe we should just send them a reset button
Who (what nation) acts "In good faith" ..?
We can rule out all of central and south america
We can rule out all of Asia
We can rule out all of the middle east
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In good faith is a pipe dream sold from one idealist to another
Nations do as they see fit form and function based on their own internal politics and needs
To which we are not always privy
This ^ is why we sell arms to the Taliban
and bungle around behind closed doors
Ship arms to drug cartels
Iran Contra affair
Greek Financial crisis
Pick a scandal and I'll show you good faith in action
You're smarter than the entire foreign policy apparatus
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
SURPRISE!!!
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... with-iran/
Iran caught violating short term agreement.
Iran has continued to expand its stockpiles DURING NEGOTIATIONS despite having signed agreements stating they wouldn't.
Bush had it right. Iran's government is evil.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... with-iran/
Iran caught violating short term agreement.
Iran has continued to expand its stockpiles DURING NEGOTIATIONS despite having signed agreements stating they wouldn't.
Bush had it right. Iran's government is evil.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Another deadline comes and goes...while MSM ignores...
...Iranian Parliament, while chanting, " Death to America", votes to deny IAEA inspectors access to all sites.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06 ... ons-video/
SMFH
...Iranian Parliament, while chanting, " Death to America", votes to deny IAEA inspectors access to all sites.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06 ... ons-video/
SMFH
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
travelinman67 wrote:Another deadline comes and goes...while MSM ignores...
...Iranian Parliament, while chanting, " Death to America", votes to deny IAEA inspectors access to all sites.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06 ... ons-video/
SMFH
dback is going to get in line for sloppy seconds...the Iranians are ass fvcking Kerry.
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What if I have more personalities than that?
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The Iranian Parliament?travelinman67 wrote:Another deadline comes and goes...while MSM ignores...
...Iranian Parliament, while chanting, " Death to America", votes to deny IAEA inspectors access to all sites.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/06 ... ons-video/
SMFH
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
ANOTHER... deadline will be missed...
...while Iran continues to buy time and expand their nuclear weapons development.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06 ... pper-hand/
And to think, we missed the opportunity to have Kerry as President...DAMN!
Here's a tip...
MASSIVELY crank up sanctions, including blockades if needed...
...instruct Iran if they continue to refuse to negotiate in good faith, you'll be forced to invite Israel to the table.
...while Iran continues to buy time and expand their nuclear weapons development.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06 ... pper-hand/
And to think, we missed the opportunity to have Kerry as President...DAMN!
Here's a tip...
MASSIVELY crank up sanctions, including blockades if needed...
...instruct Iran if they continue to refuse to negotiate in good faith, you'll be forced to invite Israel to the table.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
State Department ejects credentialed conservative media outlet from Austrian talks press briefing.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/state-depa ... -briefing/
Report the lies, or you're out.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/state-depa ... -briefing/
Report the lies, or you're out.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
More wasteful guvmint spending...travelinman67 wrote:ANOTHER... deadline will be missed...
...while Iran continues to buy time and expand their nuclear weapons development.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06 ... pper-hand/
And to think, we missed the opportunity to have Kerry as President...DAMN!
Here's a tip...
MASSIVELY crank up sanctions, including blockades if needed...
...instruct Iran if they continue to refuse to negotiate in good faith, you'll be forced to invite Israel to the table.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Swiftboat John Kerry: "There's no deal in sight."
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... h-no-deal/
Wow...sure didn't see that coming!!

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... h-no-deal/
Wow...sure didn't see that coming!!
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Another "deadline" passes with no Agreement in sight.
Kerry suggests there may never be an Agreement...
SURPRISE!!
Iran succeeds in stalling increased sanctions or military actions, while continuing their development of nuclear weapons...
The Weekly Standard
Kerry suggests there may never be an Agreement...
SURPRISE!!
Iran succeeds in stalling increased sanctions or military actions, while continuing their development of nuclear weapons...
The Weekly Standard
When is enough, enough?Iran Made Illegal Purchases of Nuclear Weapons Technology Last Month
1:48 AM, JUL 10, 2015
BY BENJAMIN WEINTHAL AND EMANUELE OTTOLENGHIS
The question is not whether Iran can be trusted to uphold the nuclear deal now being negotiated in Vienna (it can’t), but whether the Obama administration and its P5+1 partners can be trusted to punish Iran when it violates the agreement?
Experience shows that unless Iran violates the deal egregiously, the temptation will be to ignore it. For instance, Iran got away with selling more oil than it should have under the interim agreement. More ominously, Tehran repeatedly pushed the envelope on technical aspects of the agreement—such as caps on its uranium stockpile—and got away with it. The Obama administration and other Western powers have so much invested in their diplomatic efforts that they’ll deny such violations ever occurred. More evidence of Iranian violations has now surfaced.
Two reports regarding Iran's attempts to illicitly and clandestinely procure technology for its nuclear and ballistic missile programs have recently been published. They show that Iran's procurement continues apace, if not faster than before the Joint Plan of Action was signed in November 2013. But fear of potentially embarrassing negotiators and derailing negotiations has made some states reluctant to report Tehran’s illegal efforts. If these countries have hesitated to expose Iran during the negotiations, it is more likely they will refrain from reporting after a deal is struck.
The first report was released last month by the U.N. panel of experts in charge of reporting compliance with U.N. Security Council resolutions regarding Iran. The panel noted that U.N. member states had not reported significant violations of U.N. sanctions and speculated as to why: either Iran was complying, or countries did not wish to interfere with negotiations.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
But I thought you didn't want an agreement?travelinman67 wrote:Another "deadline" passes with no Agreement in sight.
Kerry suggests there may never be an Agreement...
SURPRISE!!
Iran succeeds in stalling increased sanctions or military actions, while continuing their development of nuclear weapons...
The Weekly Standard
When is enough, enough?Iran Made Illegal Purchases of Nuclear Weapons Technology Last Month
1:48 AM, JUL 10, 2015
BY BENJAMIN WEINTHAL AND EMANUELE OTTOLENGHIS
The question is not whether Iran can be trusted to uphold the nuclear deal now being negotiated in Vienna (it can’t), but whether the Obama administration and its P5+1 partners can be trusted to punish Iran when it violates the agreement?
Experience shows that unless Iran violates the deal egregiously, the temptation will be to ignore it. For instance, Iran got away with selling more oil than it should have under the interim agreement. More ominously, Tehran repeatedly pushed the envelope on technical aspects of the agreement—such as caps on its uranium stockpile—and got away with it. The Obama administration and other Western powers have so much invested in their diplomatic efforts that they’ll deny such violations ever occurred. More evidence of Iranian violations has now surfaced.
Two reports regarding Iran's attempts to illicitly and clandestinely procure technology for its nuclear and ballistic missile programs have recently been published. They show that Iran's procurement continues apace, if not faster than before the Joint Plan of Action was signed in November 2013. But fear of potentially embarrassing negotiators and derailing negotiations has made some states reluctant to report Tehran’s illegal efforts. If these countries have hesitated to expose Iran during the negotiations, it is more likely they will refrain from reporting after a deal is struck.
The first report was released last month by the U.N. panel of experts in charge of reporting compliance with U.N. Security Council resolutions regarding Iran. The panel noted that U.N. member states had not reported significant violations of U.N. sanctions and speculated as to why: either Iran was complying, or countries did not wish to interfere with negotiations.
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Hooray for failure!!
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
If Iran stalls talks for another 3-4 months, I'm sure they can get all sanctions lifted and get us to provide ICBM's and centrifuges free of charge with a hand shake that they won't deal with Russia or the NorKor's.
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Ah, yes. The "gentleman's agreement."andy7171 wrote:If Iran stalls talks for another 3-4 months, I'm sure they can get all sanctions lifted and get us to provide ICBM's and centrifuges free of charge with a hand shake that they won't deal with Russia or the NorKor's.
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Iranian court announces $50 billion judgement against U.S. Govt. for "damages" to Iranian businesses and individuals since 1979...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... t-the-u-s/
...thereby giving the Iranian govt. a faux rational to not comply with the nuclear treaty.
Anyone want to bet?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... t-the-u-s/
...thereby giving the Iranian govt. a faux rational to not comply with the nuclear treaty.
Anyone want to bet?
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Man, TRUMPMAN6.93, here's another one of your rants that's gonna blow up in your face. Benghazi.travelinman67 wrote:Iranian court announces $50 billion judgement against U.S. Govt. for "damages" to Iranian businesses and individuals since 1979...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... t-the-u-s/
...thereby giving the Iranian govt. a faux rational to not comply with the nuclear treaty.
Anyone want to bet?
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Put up your money, or shut the fuck up...King Coward Troll.D1B wrote:Man, TRUMPMAN6.93, here's another one of your rants that's gonna blow up in your face. Benghazi.travelinman67 wrote:Iranian court announces $50 billion judgement against U.S. Govt. for "damages" to Iranian businesses and individuals since 1979...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... t-the-u-s/
...thereby giving the Iranian govt. a faux rational to not comply with the nuclear treaty.
Anyone want to bet?
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Words of the prophet.D1B wrote:Man, TRUMPMAN6.93, here's another one of your rants that's gonna blow up in your face. Benghazi.travelinman67 wrote:Iranian court announces $50 billion judgement against U.S. Govt. for "damages" to Iranian businesses and individuals since 1979...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... t-the-u-s/
...thereby giving the Iranian govt. a faux rational to not comply with the nuclear treaty.
Anyone want to bet?
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http://www.bbc.com/news" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;travelinman67 wrote:Put up your money, or shut the **** up...King Coward Troll.D1B wrote:
Man, TRUMPMAN6.93, here's another one of your rants that's gonna blow up in your face. Benghazi.
Trumpman6.93. Punked again by D1B.
D1B = Lucy holding the football .
Trumpmutt6.93 = Charlie Brown trying to kick it.
I think D1B is due to give some recognition to his straight man of lo these many years. We must be approaching the milestone 10,000th punking by now
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/2015071 ... 12d83.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How long until ISIS declares Iran infidels and starts a fight with them?After 18 days of intense and often fractious negotiation, world powers and Iran struck a landmark deal Tuesday to curb Iran's nuclear program in exchange for billions of dollars in relief from international sanctions — an agreement designed to avert the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran and another U.S. military intervention in the Muslim world.
The accord will keep Iran from producing enough material for a nuclear weapon for at least 10 years and impose new provisions for inspections of Iranian facilities, including military sites. And it marks a dramatic break from decades of animosity between the United States and Iran, countries that alternatively call each other the "leading state sponsor of terrorism" and the "the Great Satan."
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
So, we struck a deal with some guys that we don't trust to actually fulfill their end (and vice versa from their perspective) and in the process did arguably irreparable damage to our relationship with the Israelis (who we sort of trust, but it's strained)?
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Its OK, they don't trust us either.We don't have a very good record of sticking to our end of treaties. As for Israel, so what? Remember the Liberty?ASUG8 wrote:So, we struck a deal with some guys that we don't trust to actually fulfill their end (and vice versa from their perspective) and in the process did arguably irreparable damage to our relationship with the Israelis (who we sort of trust, but it's strained)?
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Re: Kerry Fails Again-Iran Talks Extended-No Agreement In Si
Conks lose...again! The Washington Generals to Obama's Globetrotters. 
