NFL PAT rule changed

bonarae · Post by **bonarae** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:29 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -can-score

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Wed May 20, 2015 6:39 am

Call me a skeptic, but I don't see this changing much of anything. Coaches will still go for the kick, they'll still make an extremely high percentage, and the play will continue to be boring. Now, if they move the spot for the 2 point conversion in, say even half a yard, and then you might have something. Luckily, they only made this a one year change so they can improve on it next year when they realize this current change didn't do much of anything.

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Wed May 20, 2015 10:33 am

Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.

YoUDeeMan · Post by **YoUDeeMan** » Wed May 20, 2015 6:48 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.

Same thing I thought. Odd decision.

Post by **Vidav** » Wed May 20, 2015 7:29 pm

It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed May 20, 2015 8:10 pm

Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.

But now the defense will KNOW they're going for two.

Post by **Vidav** » Wed May 20, 2015 8:25 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.
But now the defense will KNOW they're going for two.

Meh.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 20, 2015 10:38 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.

Not completely. Sure, a fake from the 15 might be a bit harder, but it's certainly doable. The point that the 2 from the 2 is obvious to the defense makes the surprise of the fake for 2 from the 15 viable, particularly if one is dealing with a weak defense. All you have to do is shift out of kick formation into a spread, and the defense is caught short....

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Thu May 21, 2015 6:58 am

Vidav wrote:It was pretty boring before. Now more teams will go for two.

Not by any large margin, hence why the change is silly. If you really wanted more teams to eschew the extra point and go for two, move the line of scrimmage in a little bit (no more than the 1.5 yard line) and let them snap it from there. This change is like saying that things need to change, and then do nothing about it.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:12 am

CAA Flagship wrote:Well that wipes out the possibility of a fake kick for a two point conversion.
Unnecessary rule change.

How many fake XPs for a 2 point conversion have their been anyway? I'd be surprised if there were more than 5 and that may be a lot.

Post by **dbackjon** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:23 am

This chart shows the reason for the change. It used to NOT be automatic, and they are just trying to restore a bit of uncertainity to the XP. Good change.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:56 am

dbackjon wrote:This chart shows the reason for the change. It used to NOT be automatic, and they are just trying to restore a bit of uncertainity to the XP. Good change.

Yup, going from 98% success to 96% success will just keep people on their edge of their seats when it comes time to kick the XP. There's probably a 99% chance that they'll change this again next year since they've essentially done very little now.

Willie · Post by **Willie** » Fri May 22, 2015 6:14 am

If you're moving the kick back, move the line back for two point conversions too. That'd make shit interesting. Otherwise sense make none.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Fri May 22, 2015 6:48 am

Willie wrote:If you're moving the kick back, move the line back for two point conversions too. That'd make **** interesting. Otherwise sense make none.

Why would you move the line backwards for the two point conversion, i.e. why would you make it harder and less likely for people to try for the two point conversion? Did you mean move it forward?

Willie · Post by **Willie** » Fri May 22, 2015 7:30 am

No, I didn't.

It means, stop messing with the damn rules. The game is just fine as it is.

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