#blacklivesmatter

[Chizzang]

"The Jews" are a race... just ask any elder Jewish person
Judaism is a Religion as well - an organized faith with printed historical doctrine

So they get BOTH cards to play
1) Race
2) Religion


Count... see there's two

[Ibanez]

Reading a book from the back to the front doesn't make it chronologically correct. Try reading from the front - back THEN come back. Dumbass. African's didn't learn tribal warfare from the civilized countries of Europe.

Civilized Countries.....lol
Europe has had nothing but Tribal Warfare
100 Years War, England France
Dark Ages all of Europe
Crusades: Big azz lie about the Holy Land.
French Invasion of England.
Saxon invasion of England
English Civil War
French Revolution
Franco Prussian War.

I can go on and on............

the same so-called civilized people who thought the world was flat and had to be taught by Arabs and Moors that taking a bath every day was sanitary and healthy. People could smell them a mile away......

You're an idiot. You don't know what Tribal Warfare is. Move on, moron.

[Skjellyfetti]

so what race are Jews?

If I convert, do my genes suddenly change - making me more apt to say things like Oy Vey?

what about this guy:



Does he check "J" in the race box during the census?

these are rhetorical questions of course..... I know you were just having fun and dont think Jewishness is a race

I do think that race is bullshit and impossible to define so identifying Jews as a race is bullshit. I don't understand how CluckU defines race - I'm not sure how to debate about race without first understanding how it is defined, how many races there are, etc. It's kinda the point of my last few posts.

But, both Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews have haplogroup markers (and you previously made it sound like you support demarcating races this way? right?).

And, if you do support demarcating races based on haplogroup markers - it's certainly easy to see how it muddies the waters. Better than demarcating solely by skin color, though... I'll give you that!

[mrklean]

Civilized Countries.....lol
Europe has had nothing but Tribal Warfare
100 Years War, England France
Dark Ages all of Europe
Crusades: Big azz lie about the Holy Land.
French Invasion of England.
Saxon invasion of England
English Civil War
French Revolution
Franco Prussian War.

I can go on and on............

the same so-called civilized people who thought the world was flat and had to be taught by Arabs and Moors that taking a bath every day was sanitary and healthy. People could smell them a mile away......

You're an idiot. You don't know what Tribal Warfare is. Move on, moron.

You azz munch. No wonder why you work for the Government. All warfare is tribal. either from countries or Tribal. Its one group against another. You have the nerve to talk about someone being dumb

[mrklean]

There are most definitely differences among people based on genetics. And, I haven't said there aren't

But, race is a useless term. Africa (as you admit) is a VAST continent. There is more genetic diversity in Africa than the rest of the world combined. Lumping all black people into a single group and making statements on this group (based on one characteristic: skin color) is dumb.

Seems like you agree with me on the huge geneticdiversity in Africa, though from what you just posted.

Race is a useless term

says the guy who just implied Jews were a race

you better just stay in the corner and sit this one out, boy

Now if you speak to an older Jewish person. They would say that Jewishness is the Culture and Hebrew is the Race. However, I have to say that their are Jews who are White, Black, Yellow, Red and Brown. The Hebrews have spread all over the world from South Africa to western China. DNA testing has proven that they all share the genetic marker to prove it.

[Ibanez]

You're an idiot. You don't know what Tribal Warfare is. Move on, moron.

You azz munch. No wonder why you work for the Government. All warfare is tribal. either from countries or Tribal. Its one group against another. You have the nerve to talk about someone being dumb

Says the "man" that worked for the government. Fucking idiot.

The warfare between Nazi Germany and the allies is far removed and different from the African tribes chucking spears at one another.


Or using Toyota Tundras as Humvees.

[DSUrocks07]

You're an idiot. You don't know what Tribal Warfare is. Move on, moron.

You azz munch. No wonder why you work for the Government. All warfare is tribal. either from countries or Tribal. Its one group against another. You have the nerve to talk about someone being dumb

Are you seriously implying that there was ZERO warfare in Africa until the Europeans arrived? Since they "learned" it from them?

[CID1990]

so what race are Jews?

If I convert, do my genes suddenly change - making me more apt to say things like Oy Vey?

what about this guy:



Does he check "J" in the race box during the census?

these are rhetorical questions of course..... I know you were just having fun and dont think Jewishness is a race

I do think that race is bullshit and impossible to define so identifying Jews as a race is bullshit. I don't understand how CluckU defines race - I'm not sure how to debate about race without first understanding how it is defined, how many races there are, etc. It's kinda the point of my last few posts.

But, both Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews have haplogroup markers (and you previously made it sound like you support demarcating races this way? right?).

And, if you do support demarcating races based on haplogroup markers - it's certainly easy to see how it muddies the waters. Better than demarcating solely by skin color, though... I'll give you that!

so you are admitting that your basketball playing Jews analogy was bad

and the groups you refer to are ethnic groups who happen to be monolithically Jewish - their race and ethnicity has nothing to do with their religion

you do see youre absurd, right?

are Rastafarians a race?

[Skjellyfetti]

so you are admitting that your basketball playing Jews analogy was bad

It may have been. But, only because I'm not sure how you and Cluck define race. If you define it genetically based on haplogroups, then... no... it's not a bad analogy.

How do you define race? How many races are there? What are they?

and the groups you refer to are ethnic groups who happen to be monolithically Jewish

and, they have unique haplogroup identifiers - so, you would consider them to be a race - and, two distinct races, correct?

that's all i'm talking about - not talking about religion at all.

[Ibanez]

You azz munch. No wonder why you work for the Government. All warfare is tribal. either from countries or Tribal. Its one group against another. You have the nerve to talk about someone being dumb

Are you seriously implying that there was ZERO warfare in Africa until the Europeans arrived? Since they "learned" it from them?

Yes. That's what he is stating.

[CID1990]

so you are admitting that your basketball playing Jews analogy was bad

It may have been. But, only because I'm not sure how you and Cluck define race. If you define it genetically based on haplogroups, then... no... it's not a bad analogy.

How do you define race? How many races are there? What are they?

and the groups you refer to are ethnic groups who happen to be monolithically Jewish

and, they have unique haplogroup identifiers - so, you would consider them to be a race - and, two distinct races, correct?

that's all i'm talking about - not talking about religion at all.

apparently this topic is beyond your understanding

genetic haplogroups ARE race. they determine physical characteristics and are based in places of origin

[andy7171]

It may have been. But, only because I'm not sure how you and Cluck define race. If you define it genetically based on haplogroups, then... no... it's not a bad analogy.

How do you define race? How many races are there? What are they?




and, they have unique haplogroup identifiers - so, you would consider them to be a race - and, two distinct races, correct?

that's all i'm talking about - not talking about religion at all.

apparently this topic is beyond your understanding

genetic haplogroups ARE race. they determine physical characteristics and are based in places of origin

Take it easy on him. At least he's still here after torpedoing himself on common pool cleaning supplies.

[Skjellyfetti]

apparently this topic is beyond your understanding

genetic haplogroups ARE race. they determine physical characteristics and are based in places of origin

Now we're getting somewhere.

And, Ashkenazi and Sephardic jews have two haplogroups. Not only (by your definition) is there a race of Jews. There are two! [Again, note: I don't believe this. Just following your definition of race.]

Map of the world's haplogroups/races:



Pretty fucking muddy, no?

Especially in order for someone to say: "black people are genetically predisposed to violence." What the fuck does that even mean?

[mrklean]

You azz munch. No wonder why you work for the Government. All warfare is tribal. either from countries or Tribal. Its one group against another. You have the nerve to talk about someone being dumb

Says the "man" that worked for the government. **** idiot.

The warfare between Nazi Germany and the allies is far removed and different from the African tribes chucking spears at one another.

Or using Toyota Tundras as Humvees.

Yes worked. No longer employed at the Plantation. Warfare comes down to two things, money and land. Tribal or a full scale war. Look up any war and it will fall into these two categories. So again, I'm right. And no, we don't fight wars because of patriotism, the damn flag or that got damn Lee Greenwood song. They tell lies to people like you so you will feel good about a country bombing a village full of old people and children.

But then again, you are the Master Race

[andy7171]

What money or land did we get or potentially got from Vietnam or Afganistan or Iraq?

[93henfan]

What money or land did we get or potentially got from Vietnam or Afganistan or Iraq?

LBJ and his wife made millions on Bell Helicopter.

And surely you're familiar with Halliburton.

[mrklean]

What money or land did we get or potentially got from Vietnam or Afganistan or Iraq?

LBJ and his wife made millions on Bell Helicopter.

And surely you're familiar with Halliburton.

BINGO!!!!!!

DING DING DING...we have a winner!

[mrklean]

What money or land did we get or potentially got from Vietnam or Afganistan or Iraq?

The majority of the raw rubber at that time, came from French Indo-China. Again....money.

[YoUDeeMan]

Lots of dead Africans at the hands of Africans.

Yeah, that's right. They learned this from Europe, too well.

Warfare comes down to two things, money and land. Tribal or a full scale war. Look up any war and it will fall into these two categories.

Africans learned what from Europeans?

[YoUDeeMan]

skelly, you admit that people have different physical characteristics due to genetics, and that groups of people share those genetics.

Do you believe that groups of people have different mental abilities/characteristics due to genetics?

[Ibanez]

Says the "man" that worked for the government. **** idiot.

The warfare between Nazi Germany and the allies is far removed and different from the African tribes chucking spears at one another.

Or using Toyota Tundras as Humvees.

Yes worked. No longer employed at the Plantation. Warfare comes down to two things, money and land. Tribal or a full scale war. Look up any war and it will fall into these two categories. So again, I'm right. And no, we don't fight wars because of patriotism, the damn flag or that got damn Lee Greenwood song. They tell lies to people like you so you will feel good about a country bombing a village full of old people and children.

But then again, you are the Master Race

When did I ever say we fight b/c of patriots? Do you even have a clue what you are talking about?? You said Europeans taught the Africans about warfare. That just isn't true. Humans originate from Africa so it only stands to reason that warfare also began there. If you honestly believe that there was ZERO warfare until the Europeans got established, then you need to just off your self right now.

And wars are fought for 3 things: Land (resources), Money and Idealogy. ISIS is a good example.

Thanks for the racist comment, you've prove yourself time and time again to be nothing more than a racist piece of shit. God, I hope you haven't procreated. We don't need anymore blacks with victim/entitlement issues.

[Ibanez]

What money or land did we get or potentially got from Vietnam or Afganistan or Iraq?

Land is a bad term and if klean had any brains he wouldn't have used it. The more operative word is RESOURCES. Hitler didn't invade Russia b/c they have mild winters and beautiful flowers in the spring. He invaded b/c he wanted Oil. Japan didn't attack the US b/c they wanted Hawai'i. We cut them off from their oil and they were going to land grab all the resources they needed to survive. They were hoping to severely cripple us at Pearl Harbor, giving them more time to snatch up resources.

[93henfan]

Can we get back on topic?

Any new videos of blacks acting up, resisting arrest, and then getting butthurt when they get roughed up a little? Preferably teen females in bikinis.

Also does anyone happen to have a looped slow-mo gif of the Texas cop running in, tripping over the tree root, and doing the combat roll? I can't get enough of that!!

[CID1990]

apparently this topic is beyond your understanding

genetic haplogroups ARE race. they determine physical characteristics and are based in places of origin

Now we're getting somewhere.

And, Ashkenazi and Sephardic jews have two haplogroups. Not only (by your definition) is there a race of Jews. There are two! [Again, note: I don't believe this. Just following your definition of race.]

Map of the world's haplogroups/races:



Pretty **** muddy, no?

Especially in order for someone to say: "black people are genetically predisposed to violence." What the **** does that even mean?

My definition of race is a commonly accepted one- you can pretend that Im some kind of outlier if you like

And you are misinterpreting the haplogroup map (not surprising as it cannot be laid out on a graph)- it isnt muddy at all.

MULTIPLE haplogroups come together to make up what we physically recognize as races- so those few haplogroups in Sweden all describe white, blue eyed people- they are not 5-6 different races

there are several haplogroups that make up what are considered to be whites

another several that are considered east asians

a few that are considered Indian

You can single out any one of thise haplogroups and accurately (100% of the time) describe where their ancestors came from, and you can accurately describe their physical characteristics (EVEN if they are mixed)

what you cannot do is look at the 6-7 haplogroups that describe Semitic people and say "this one is a jew" or "this one is a Muslim" or "this one is a Christian", because religion has nothing to do with race or ethnicity

you're out of your depth here, probably should consider dropping out of this one

[andy7171]

Can we get back on topic?

Any new videos of blacks acting up, resisting arrest, and then getting butthurt when they get roughed up a little? Preferably teen females in bikinis.

Also does anyone happen to have a looped slow-mo gif of the Texas cop running in, tripping over the tree root, and doing the combat roll? I can't get enough of that!!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6RQBIeGHnI[/youtube]