Confederate Battle Flag Poll

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Would getting rid of it reduce the incidence of "hate crimes?"

Yes
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No
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Chizzang wrote:These debates have been hilarious to watch...
Some folks sure get worked up over a flag (and that goes for both sides)

I can promise you
There's isn't a damned flag in the world I give 1% as much of a f*ck about regardless of the situation as half the folks killing themselves over this issue - its just a damned flag - who gives a gawd damned

and its the flag of the losers just to make it even more hilarious...
Jeezus, man let the losers flag fly if it makes 'em feel better
its a daily reminder "Hey look, we lost" how about that

:rofl:

They should be made to fly the damned thing after this debacle of an argument
this right here folks

this is how you can be reasoned and absurd at the same time
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JohnStOnge wrote:And by the way, if there was any doubt that Obama has no business being in the position he's in, that thing of lighting up the White House should have eliminated it. I should not need to explain why that is so further.

I can't think of a single President of my lifetime who would've done something like that under these circumstances. Talk about a divisive action. As far as Democrats of my lifetime go Kennedy wouldn't have done that. Johnson wouldn't have done that. Carter wouldn't have done that. Clinton wouldn't have done that.

The guy has no sense at all. That he was ever elected once much less twice does not bode well for the future of the United States. A population that would elect somebody like that has serious issues.
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Chizzang wrote:These debates have been hilarious to watch...
Some folks sure get worked up over a flag (and that goes for both sides)

I can promise you
There's isn't a damned flag in the world I give 1% as much of a f*ck about regardless of the situation as half the folks killing themselves over this issue - its just a damned flag - who gives a gawd damned

and its the flag of the losers just to make it even more hilarious...
Jeezus, man let the losers flag fly if it makes 'em feel better
its a daily reminder "Hey look, we lost" how about that

:rofl:

They should be made to fly the damned thing after this debacle of an argument
I think the losers of that war are dead. I'm not sure, there might be a vet or two in the Blue Ridge. Southern people take pride in their homes and families, they should have the right to fly a flag that their ancestors fought under. Now, South Carolina didn't fight under that flag (although a Walterboro man and future Mayor of Charleston designed it). That's the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. To be accurate, our current state flag was created in 1861 to honor the Battle of Sullivan's Is( anniversary is today, btw) and was flown over Ft. Sumter upon Maj. Andersons retreat. Variations of our state flag were used by SC troops in the war.
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Chizzang wrote:These debates have been hilarious to watch...
Some folks sure get worked up over a flag (and that goes for both sides)

I can promise you
There's isn't a damned flag in the world I give 1% as much of a f*ck about regardless of the situation as half the folks killing themselves over this issue - its just a damned flag - who gives a gawd damned

and its the flag of the losers just to make it even more hilarious...
Jeezus, man let the losers flag fly if it makes 'em feel better
its a daily reminder "Hey look, we lost" how about that

:rofl:

They should be made to fly the damned thing after this debacle of an argument
Give them all confederate do-rags. Nothing says "Ignurnt and Proud" like one of those. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
Chizzang wrote:These debates have been hilarious to watch...
Some folks sure get worked up over a flag (and that goes for both sides)

I can promise you
There's isn't a damned flag in the world I give 1% as much of a f*ck about regardless of the situation as half the folks killing themselves over this issue - its just a damned flag - who gives a gawd damned

and its the flag of the losers just to make it even more hilarious...
Jeezus, man let the losers flag fly if it makes 'em feel better
its a daily reminder "Hey look, we lost" how about that

:rofl:

They should be made to fly the damned thing after this debacle of an argument
Give them all confederate do-rags. Nothing says "Ignurnt and Proud" like one of those. :thumb:
What's your obsession with do rags?
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Give them all confederate do-rags. Nothing says "Ignurnt and Proud" like one of those. :thumb:
What's your obsession with do rags?
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Give them all confederate do-rags. Nothing says "Ignurnt and Proud" like one of those. :thumb:
What's your obsession with do rags?
C'mon, Douchedawg

Tell us what all your comments on Confederate flag do-rags are in reference to

Or did you already look back through the forum and realize what every body else already knows (that you're a fool)?
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CID1990 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
What's your obsession with do rags?
C'mon, Douchedawg

Tell us what all your comments on Confederate flag do-rags are in reference to

Or did you already look back through the forum and realize what every body else already knows (that you're a fool)?


Clearly a reference abouit how to look like a dumb azz. Like ending a sentence with a preposition. :lol:


You seem to be getting yourself all worked up about do rags CID, not helpful when you're taking the position of the adult in the room. :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
C'mon, Douchedawg

Tell us what all your comments on Confederate flag do-rags are in reference to

Or did you already look back through the forum and realize what every body else already knows (that you're a fool)?


Clearly a reference abouit how to look like a dumb azz. Like ending a sentence with a preposition. :lol:


You seem to be getting yourself all worked up about do rags CID, not helpful when you're taking the position of the adult in the room. :ohno:
If you're going to be grammar Nazi then you should check your spelling.

Maybe I should go back and post the link to every post where you have made the do-rag reference - if we want to see who is worked up.
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I use to wear a do rag in high school from time to time. :oops: :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:I use to wear a do rag in high school from time to time. :oops: :mrgreen:
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:These debates have been hilarious to watch...
Some folks sure get worked up over a flag (and that goes for both sides)

I can promise you
There's isn't a damned flag in the world I give 1% as much of a f*ck about regardless of the situation as half the folks killing themselves over this issue - its just a damned flag - who gives a gawd damned

and its the flag of the losers just to make it even more hilarious...
Jeezus, man let the losers flag fly if it makes 'em feel better
its a daily reminder "Hey look, we lost" how about that

:rofl:

They should be made to fly the damned thing after this debacle of an argument
this right here folks

this is how you can be reasoned and absurd at the same time

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
this right here folks

this is how you can be reasoned and absurd at the same time

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
I realize citdog hasn't weighed in ;) but has there been any South Carolinians on this board that haven't agreed the flag needs to be moved?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
this right here folks

this is how you can be reasoned and absurd at the same time

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture
Interesting. When people ask me I always say because Southerners are stubborn. Didn't know we were ethnically stubborn :)
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture

Hmmm.... that puts a whole new light on things
Its interesting how we as Americans accept that (what you describe) from Scots and Irish
in fact we love that about them - its considered a redeeming factor of great value

yet in our own brothers we regard it as a form of mild insanity...
"Those rednecks are absolutely f*cking crazy!" said not with anger but with a sense of awe and amazement
as a recent quote from a friend of mine who lives in Berkeley California (I know laugh go ahead)

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture

Hmmm.... that puts a whole new light on things
Its interesting how we as Americans accept that (what you describe) from Scots and Irish
in fact we love that about them - its considered a redeeming factor of great value

yet in our own brothers we regard it as a form of mild insanity...
"Those rednecks are absolutely f*cking crazy!" said not with anger but with a sense of awe and amazement
as a recent quote from a friend of mine who lives in Berkeley California (I know laugh go ahead)

:nod:
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For fucks sake, America. Now we're removing Confederate flags from Civil War sites? This is ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... ly-forever" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't wait until we see the American flag removed, the Washington Monument destroyed, Monticello burned to the ground, etc... :roll:
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Ibanez wrote:For fucks sake, America. Now we're removing Confederate flags from Civil War sites? This is ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... ly-forever" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't wait until we see the American flag removed, the Washington Monument destroyed, Monticello burned to the ground, etc... :roll:
They'll surgically remove Jefferson from Mt. Rushmore in the process. :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture

Hmmm.... that puts a whole new light on things
Its interesting how we as Americans accept that (what you describe) from Scots and Irish
in fact we love that about them - its considered a redeeming factor of great value

yet in our own brothers we regard it as a form of mild insanity...
"Those rednecks are absolutely f*cking crazy!" said not with anger but with a sense of awe and amazement
as a recent quote from a friend of mine who lives in Berkeley California (I know laugh go ahead)

:nod:
And of course this is why most of us, when California begins sliding into the sea, will be cheering whole heartedly for the Pacific Ocean :kisswink:
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OL FU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Hmmm.... that puts a whole new light on things
Its interesting how we as Americans accept that (what you describe) from Scots and Irish
in fact we love that about them - its considered a redeeming factor of great value

yet in our own brothers we regard it as a form of mild insanity...
"Those rednecks are absolutely f*cking crazy!" said not with anger but with a sense of awe and amazement
as a recent quote from a friend of mine who lives in Berkeley California (I know laugh go ahead)

:nod:
And of course this is why most of us, when California begins sliding into the sea, will be cheering whole heartedly for the Pacific Ocean :kisswink:
I would have no qualms with going back to the 13 colonies. Who needs fly over states, California, Texas, etc...? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



















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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Look the hippies and tree huggers out here
have some dumb ass arguments and points of contention

I'm not trying to play this like it's the only stupid debate being tossed about in full view of the world
but for the love of Pete can there really be that much self worth tied up in that flag..?

:shock:
Well, yes.

I have a number of theories about the Confederate flag and why it commands so much feeling in some people - I'll only bore you with one:

It has to do with the large Celtic makeup of the Confederate states in the 1860s - largely Scots Irish - bellicosity has always been in that DNA. Not necessarily in any support for slavery or the fifty other reasons people will argue that war was about - but just the idea of picking up a gun an fighting a perceived invading enemy who looks down on you in a superior manner-

it has a strong effect on the psyche of the Scots, the Irish, and to lesser degrees the Bretons and Welsh. The Confederate flag is a symbol of that kind of hard bitten orneriness that is a matter of pride to what made up 95% of the American South in I think the 1798 census or thereabouts. The fact that it is based on the St Andrews Cross isnt lost on many Scots and Scots Irish.

Whether fighting the Romans, the English, the Norsemen or even each other- the Confederate flag is representative of a fight -much like a tartan or a coat of arms or a shamrock or fleur de lis -

Now some redneck in a trailer park somewhere doesnt think about it in those terms- but that culture of bellicosity is real in those groups, and I do think it lends to the incendiary nature of the flag. It doesnt matter what the war was about - it could have been about anything, righteous or not- and Southerners will cling to it as a symbol of the struggle

Sen James Webb wrote a book that I highly recommend- "Born Fighting: The Scots Irish in America" He does a pretty good job of digging in to the quirks of the culture
It has more to do with their occupation as shepherds than their DNA. Shepherding livestock requires bellicosity and the further and wider your bellicosity is known and feared the fewer sheep/goats/cattle you're likely to have stolen.
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:


Clearly a reference abouit how to look like a dumb azz. Like ending a sentence with a preposition. :lol:


You seem to be getting yourself all worked up about do rags CID, not helpful when you're taking the position of the adult in the room. :ohno:
If you're going to be grammar Nazi then you should check your spelling.

Maybe I should go back and post the link to every post where you have made the do-rag reference - if we want to see who is worked up.
Get right on that! :thumb:
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Re: Confederate Battle Flag Poll

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Ibanez wrote:For fucks sake, America. Now we're removing Confederate flags from Civil War sites? This is ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... ly-forever" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't wait until we see the American flag removed, the Washington Monument destroyed, Monticello burned to the ground, etc... :roll:
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Ibanez wrote:For **** sake, America. Now we're removing Confederate flags from Civil War sites? This is ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/2 ... ly-forever" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't wait until we see the American flag removed, the Washington Monument destroyed, Monticello burned to the ground, etc... :roll:
"Aides to Gov. Larry Hogan said he was pursuing steps to stop the state Motor Vehicle Administration from issuing license plates bearing the flag and to recall those now in circulation. The state has issued nearly 500 such tags since the Sons of Confederate Veterans qualified for the specialty plates two decades ago."

I can Maryland elected a pussy Republican for gov.. :roll:
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