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dbackjon wrote:
Seahawks08 wrote:Phils trade paps for Nats AA pitcher Nick Pivetta. He's currently 22 years old and the Nat's #10 ranked prospect.


You happy with the trade?
Yes. It finally signals the beginning of the end of all the veterans on the phils. Getting most of the money off the books and adding a top 10 prospect to boot ain't bad for a 34 year old reliever.

And bonus points for booing him every time he comes to the cbp (billy wagner 2.0).
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Happy trails to Paps - should've happened last year to be honest, but the Phils lose nothing at closer with Giles & shed a bunch of $$. They'll have to find/develop an 8th inning guy now.

Now it's time to get prospects for Cole.
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Yup, no problem with the trade of Paps, already have a closer to replace him and we get a young kid who may or may not end up being something.

Gotta get something good in the Hamels trade, we can't Schilling this trade.
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Hamels and RP Diekman traded to the Rangers for SP Matt Harrison along with prospects Jake Thompson (#4, P), Alec Asher (#29, P), Jerad Eickhoff (#17, P), Jorge Alfaro (#6, C), and Nick Williams (#5, OF).

I think that is an acceptable haul for Hamels. Excellent depth for the farm system now. :thumb:
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On the surface I like the deal from the Phils perspective - more pieces to the puzzle. Rebuilding what was a decrepit farm system.
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Isn't Alfaro coming off a fairly serious ankle injury? And Matt Harrison has also been hurt.
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Seahawks08 wrote:Hamels and RP Diekman traded to the Rangers for SP Matt Harrison along with prospects Jake Thompson (#4, P), Alec Asher (#29, P), Jerad Eickhoff (#17, P), Jorge Alfaro (#6, C), and Nick Williams (#5, OF).

I think that is an acceptable haul for Hamels. Excellent depth for the farm system now. :thumb:
As an update, saw that Phillies had to throw in $9.5 Million as well

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/cole-hamels" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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tribe_pride wrote:
Seahawks08 wrote:Hamels and RP Diekman traded to the Rangers for SP Matt Harrison along with prospects Jake Thompson (#4, P), Alec Asher (#29, P), Jerad Eickhoff (#17, P), Jorge Alfaro (#6, C), and Nick Williams (#5, OF).

I think that is an acceptable haul for Hamels. Excellent depth for the farm system now. :thumb:
As an update, saw that Phillies had to throw in $9.5 Million as well

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/cole-hamels" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One thing the Phillies have is a ton of cash. They basically used that here to buy 5 decent (and 3 of them very decent) minor league prospects. I think after 2017 the Phils get rid of a lot of the real bad contracts and, with the Comcast deal money rolling in, they will be flush with cash.
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GannonFan wrote:Yup, no problem with the trade of Paps, already have a closer to replace him and we get a young kid who may or may not end up being something.

Gotta get something good in the Hamels trade, we can't Schilling this trade.

The Schilling trade was GREAT!! Just ask JoltinJoe :nod: :nod:
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There is something really wrong with the Phillies. :o
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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:There is something really wrong with the Phillies. :o
They're....winning! :yikes:
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Junior Ivy and I watched the return of Jimmy Rollins to the Cit last night. He got a warm welcome, and had a very Jimmy-like game:

2-for-5 with a double, a popup and 2 K's

booted an easy grounder

The Mikael Franco grand slam was the highlight of the evening! :thumb: Only 28K showed up, but there were a lot of #11 red jerseys in the stands.
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Ivytalk wrote:Junior Ivy and I watched the return of Jimmy Rollins to the Cit last night. He got a warm welcome, and had a very Jimmy-like game:

2-for-5 with a double, a popup and 2 K's

booted an easy grounder

The Mikael Franco grand slam was the highlight of the evening! :thumb: Only 28K showed up, but there were a lot of #11 red jerseys in the stands.

Its so weird how smallish infielders today strike out 100+ times a year
When I first started seriously paying attention to Baseball only a few guys in the entire league struck out 100+

and they hit 40 home runs and 40 doubles and walked 80 times...

Now we're got 180lb second basemen who only walk 20 times a year but strikes out 100+

WTF..?
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Phillies
Sixers

God damn it! Our teams can't even tank correctly!! Phils are going to pass the Marlins.

And yes, I know draft order probably matters least in baseball, of all sports. But still.
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93henfan wrote:Phillies
Sixers

God damn it! Our teams can't even tank correctly!! Phils are going to pass the Marlins.

And yes, I know draft order probably matters least in baseball, of all sports. But still.
10 upcoming games with the Mets... please help us out as we can't seem to do it ourselves. 8-)
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89Hen wrote:
93henfan wrote:Phillies
Sixers

God damn it! Our teams can't even tank correctly!! Phils are going to pass the Marlins.

And yes, I know draft order probably matters least in baseball, of all sports. But still.
10 upcoming games with the Mets... please help us out as we can't seem to do it ourselves. 8-)

Those games don't start until the end of August but teams have been trouble getting more than 2 runs off of 4 of the 5 the Mets starters Harvey, Syndegaard, deGrom and even Niese who has played better now and has a 3.51 ERA as the 4th starter. Colon is the guy that teams will have to take advantage of but he is something like 42 years old so he has an excuse. Big issue is that some of these guys (the young ones) are on an inning cap so spot starters and other fixes will happen towards the end of the year. Read that they will be in for playoffs though if Mets make it.
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93henfan wrote:Phillies
Sixers

God damn it! Our teams can't even tank correctly!! Phils are going to pass the Marlins.

And yes, I know draft order probably matters least in baseball, of all sports. But still.
I agree, while it's fun to see them be competitive again, it would be nice for the Phils to have the top pick and they can just pick a stud out of college that they can count on seeing in a few years like they did with Nola (I know he was further down). But, if you take the Sixers example, the bad job of tanking worked for them - they got the best guy in the draft (Okafor) that everyone was tanking for in the first place.
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Phils 15-5 since All Star break and no longer the worst team in baseball! :nod: :notworthy:
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Ivytalk wrote:Phils 15-5 since All Star break and no longer the worst team in baseball! :nod: :notworthy:
Again. We even suck at losing. :ohno:

Go hard or go home.
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Anyone know if there is a stud/surefire #1 pick for the next draft? Cause it ain't looking like the Phils are going to get it - damn Marlins. Even my over/under bet looks to be in jeopardy.
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Time to trade Harang. Can we get a low-A prospect for him?
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I'm sure the Pfightin' Pfils pfeel that if they never see the Diamonbacks again it'll be too soon.
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I don't think you understand. The phils want to play the dbacks everyday so they can solidify that #1 pick! :thumb:
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Seahawks08 wrote:I don't think you understand. The phils want to play the dbacks everyday so they can solidify that #1 pick! :thumb:
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Ah, is THAT their strategy? :thumb: :thumb:

And conversely, the D-Backs want to play the Phils every day because they'd win their division if they did!
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