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Primate Fossil Could Be Key Link in Evolution

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Scientists say a 47-million-year-old fossil found in Germany may be a key link to explain the evolution of early primates, and, ultimately, modern human beings. The fossil is being unveiled Tuesday at a news conference at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.

The fossil, of a young female that probably resembled a modern-day lemur, is described as "the most complete primate fossil ever found." It is small -- with a body about the size of a raccoon -- but it has characteristics found in later primates and in humans.

"This specimen is like finding the lost ark for archeologists," said Dr. Jorn Hurum of the University of Oslo, who led the two-year effort to determine the fossil's importance. "This fossil will probably be the one that will be pictured in all textbooks for the next 100 years."

The fossil was being unveiled today amid great fanfare at a news conference at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. The scientists who worked on it nicknamed it "Ida."

It has, among other things, opposable thumbs, similar to humans' and unlike those found on other modern mammals. It has fingernails instead of claws. And by examining the structure of its hind legs (one of which is partly missing), scientists say they can see evidence of evolutionary changes that would eventually lead to primates standing upright.
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Awesome. I love when stuff like this is released
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Very cool!!
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HERETICS! God made the sun, earth, moon and everything in between in 6 days and had a BBQ.....
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Appaholic wrote:HERETICS! God made the sun, earth, moon and everything in between in 6 days and had a BBQ.....
What was the main course of this BBQ? Pork Ribs?
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grizzaholic wrote:
Appaholic wrote:HERETICS! God made the sun, earth, moon and everything in between in 6 days and had a BBQ.....
What was the main course of this BBQ? Pork Ribs?
Wolf ribs
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Appaholic wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
What was the main course of this BBQ? Pork Ribs?
Wolf ribs
mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy. Too bad the activists probably ruined the BBQ.
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grizzaholic wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
Wolf ribs
mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy. Too bad the activists probably ruined the BBQ.
Upon creation the activitists started complaining that God's creation had upset the delicate balance of the universe and he grew tired of their whining so he fried them in animal fat and used them like bacon in a potato salad to be served with the wolf ribs. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy. Too bad the activists probably ruined the BBQ.
Upon creation the activitists started complaining that God's creation had upset the delicate balance of the universe and he grew tired of their whining so he fried them in animal fat and used them like bacon in a potato salad to be served with the wolf ribs. :lol:
We need the second course, I mean coming of GOD!!!
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I ain't descended from no lemur! :evil:

Actually, "Grandma" is kinda cute... :P
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Ivytalk wrote:I ain't descended from no lemur! :evil:

Actually, "Grandma" is kinda cute... :P
No, as a Republican, you descended from lemmings :D
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I ain't descended from no lemur! :evil:

Actually, "Grandma" is kinda cute... :P
No, as a Republican, you descended from lemmings :D
Appaholic resembles that.












The Lemming part.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I ain't descended from no lemur! :evil:

Actually, "Grandma" is kinda cute... :P
No, as a Republican, you descended from lemmings :D
No way. That means I'd have to follow Michael Steele over a cliff.
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Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
No, as a Republican, you descended from lemmings :D
No way. That means I'd have to follow Michael Steele over a cliff.
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But at least he would pay you well.
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What a bunch of horseshit.

Everyone knows the earth is 6,000 years old.

These scientists are trying to force their agenda down our throats.

47 million year old ape!?! :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:What a bunch of horseshit.

Everyone knows the earth is 6,000 years old.

These scientists are trying to force their agenda down our throats.

47 million year old ape!?! :roll:
Catholics gave up on the 6000 year old nonsense and now embrace evolution. Fuckers know how to run a good business. :P
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Some of the comments in the Discovery thread on Facebook. I mean, what do you say to this kind of thing? I just sighed and moved on.
I will believe evolution when someone shows me a monkey that can talk, read, write novels, solve difficult problems etc. ...and until then, I'm stickin' to my Religion and my guns. Sometimes these Discovery people go overboard...like alot.
um... we did not evolve from... we were a creation of God... not interested...
I would hate to think that I have an ancester like this or anything similar. If we came from monkey's and Apes, why do I go to the Zoo and still see monkeys and Apes. Maybe if we could find one in the in between stage instead on the early stage it would be credible. This is far to crazy and dumb to have any belief.
Booo!!! This is the dark side of Discovery! The THEORY of evolution stinks! How can one believe this stuff! Just because we have similar traits.
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Mountaineer wrote:Some of the comments in the Discovery thread on Facebook. I mean, what do you say to this kind of thing? I just sighed and moved on.
I will believe evolution when someone shows me a monkey that can talk, read, write novels, solve difficult problems etc. ...and until then, I'm stickin' to my Religion and my guns. Sometimes these Discovery people go overboard...like alot.
um... we did not evolve from... we were a creation of God... not interested...
I would hate to think that I have an ancester like this or anything similar. If we came from monkey's and Apes, why do I go to the Zoo and still see monkeys and Apes. Maybe if we could find one in the in between stage instead on the early stage it would be credible. This is far to crazy and dumb to have any belief.
Booo!!! This is the dark side of Discovery! The THEORY of evolution stinks! How can one believe this stuff! Just because we have similar traits.
I believe in a combination of evolution and creationism.


I hate it when people say "if we evolved from monkeys why am I driving and they are in zoo's?


From what I understand is that the theory of evolution states that the human came off of a line of monkeys. The humans split from the monkeys, while the monkeys continued to be monkeys. I hate ignorant people
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clenz wrote: I hate it when people say "if we evolved from monkeys why am I driving and they are in zoo's?
Agreed.

They're up there with the "Global warming? It just snowed an inch in my back yard in April. LOL!!!!" dipshits. :lol:
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clenz wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:Some of the comments in the Discovery thread on Facebook. I mean, what do you say to this kind of thing? I just sighed and moved on.






I believe in a combination of evolution and creationism.


I hate it when people say "if we evolved from monkeys why am I driving and they are in zoo's?


From what I understand is that the theory of evolution states that the human came off of a line of monkeys. The humans split from the monkeys, while the monkeys continued to be monkeys. I hate ignorant people
Clenz, hate to break the news to you, but christianity is complete bullshit. It's one of thousands of myths used by primitive man to explain shit like tornados, dreams and death. It stuck because early governments found it to be a useful tool to control people.

As people became wiser, christianity became less powerful. Now it's no different than the Elks Club - nothing but a social club and a complete waste of time.

You're young. Don't waste time in churches and all that shit. Boy, you should be out bird-doggin chicks and bangin beaver!

There it is Clenz. Grow up and be a man. :geek:
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D1B wrote:
clenz wrote:I believe in a combination of evolution and creationism.


I hate it when people say "if we evolved from monkeys why am I driving and they are in zoo's?


From what I understand is that the theory of evolution states that the human came off of a line of monkeys. The humans split from the monkeys, while the monkeys continued to be monkeys. I hate ignorant people
Clenz, hate to break the news to you, but christianity is complete bullshit. It's one of thousands of myths used by primitive man to explain shit like tornados, dreams and death. It stuck because early governments found it to be a useful tool to control people.

As people became wiser, christianity became less powerful. Now it's no different than the Elks Club - nothing but a social club and a complete waste of time.

You're young. Don't waste time in churches and all that shit. Boy, you should be out bird-doggin chicks and bangin beaver!

There it is Clenz. Grow up and be a man. :geek:
You won't get me all riled up over this like you would Z or T.


The fact is you, and your brother, don't believe in God, good for you. I'm not going to force you to believe, not even try to throw things at you to believe. You don't want too, fine. I choose to believe, and if you can't handle that....well...tough fucking shit, deal with it.


You look just as pathetic, if not more so, than those who try to force religion down others throat when you sit there and yell at people for believing in something bigger than them self. Not everyone that is religious is Christian. You spend hours bashing Christianity, but yet you leave out Judaism and Islam...both religions have the same God as Christianity. You also leave you
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    Scientology
    Unitarian Universalist Symbol Unitarian-Universalism
    The Creativity Movement (formerly called World Church of the Creator)
    The Yazidi branch of Yazdanism
    Zoroastrianism
I understand you issues with religion, however, true religion isn't about pushing a belief on a person, it is about finding a reason for ones life and trying to find inner peace. Every society in the history of Earth has had a religion of some kind. Hell, atheism is a religion as well.


Whether you want to believe or not doesn't affect me. I don't get on your case because you choose not to believe in a higher power, so leave me the fuck alone about what I believe. If you can't handle religion and those who believe in one, then you have some serious fucking issues that go well beyond whether or not your father "forced you to go to church" as a child, as Cap'n claims.


Long story short, I believe you don't...fucking deal.
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WOW....Elian Gonzalez must roll hard, he was in there twice.
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grizzaholic wrote:WOW....Elian Gonzalez must roll hard, he was in there twice.
smartass.
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clenz wrote:
D1B wrote:
Clenz, hate to break the news to you, but christianity is complete bullshit. It's one of thousands of myths used by primitive man to explain shit like tornados, dreams and death. It stuck because early governments found it to be a useful tool to control people.

As people became wiser, christianity became less powerful. Now it's no different than the Elks Club - nothing but a social club and a complete waste of time.

You're young. Don't waste time in churches and all that shit. Boy, you should be out bird-doggin chicks and bangin beaver!

There it is Clenz. Grow up and be a man. :geek:
You won't get me all riled up over this like you would Z or T.


The fact is you, and your brother, don't believe in God, good for you. I'm not going to force you to believe, not even try to throw things at you to believe. You don't want too, fine. I choose to believe, and if you can't handle that....well...tough fucking shit, deal with it.


You look just as pathetic, if not more so, than those who try to force religion down others throat when you sit there and yell at people for believing in something bigger than them self. Not everyone that is religious is Christian. You spend hours bashing Christianity, but yet you leave out Judaism and Islam...both religions have the same God as Christianity. You also leave you
  • Buhdism
    Hinudism
    WICCA / WITCHCRAFT
    Confucianism
    Jainism
    Shinto
    Sikhism
    Taoism
    Vodun
    Caodaism
    Damanhur Community
    Druze
    Eckankar
    Elian Gonzalez religious movement
    Gnosticism
    Gypsies
    Hare Krishna Symbol\ Hare Krishna - ISKCON
    Ifa, the religion of the Yoruba people of West Africa
    Lukumi
    Macumba
    Mowahhidoon
    Native American Spirituality
    Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies)
    Santeria
    Elian Gonzalez religious movement
    Satanism Symbol Satanism; The Church of Satan
    Scientology
    Unitarian Universalist Symbol Unitarian-Universalism
    The Creativity Movement (formerly called World Church of the Creator)
    The Yazidi branch of Yazdanism
    Zoroastrianism
I understand you issues with religion, however, true religion isn't about pushing a belief on a person, it is about finding a reason for ones life and trying to find inner peace. Every society in the history of Earth has had a religion of some kind. Hell, atheism is a religion as well.


Whether you want to believe or not doesn't affect me. I don't get on your case because you choose not to believe in a higher power, so leave me the fuck alone about what I believe. If you can't handle religion and those who believe in one, then you have some serious fucking issues that go well beyond whether or not your father "forced you to go to church" as a child, as Cap'n claims.


Long story short, I believe you don't...fucking deal.
Hey Clenz, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. I just hate to see a young man wasting time and money on fairy tales.

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clenz wrote: however, true religion isn't about pushing a belief on a person, it is about finding a reason for ones life and trying to find inner peace.
Clenz..
I like that part (above) Dude..
keep that central and you will have an amazing life...

I was Atheist all through my 20's and into my 30's and it was what worked for me... it kept me focused on science and searching for the truth - ultimately it was just what I needed.

Later in life (I'm old) as I was doing some difficult research and seriously applying myself and my beliefs I discovered a few things along the way (which I will not get into here) but suffice to say "I found God" and I wasn't even looking. Now I don't want to get all mushy here so I'll throw this out there too...

I discovered a long time ago that I have no patients for "the Bible"
it's an ancient text written by men - to control men... (Period)

It's got some nice stuff in it that has value in general... but it's a tool - like a hammer - it pounds nails for an organization - I ain't into that at all...

Nuff Said: I like God - The Universe is a stunning example of Master Work... and it has nothing to do with "the Bible" or Christianity in my world 8-) Life is beautiful - stay frosty
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