Coronavirus COVID-19

[Gil Dobie]

In other news, the Pfizer vax was approved today by the FDA.

Now is when they start putting the mind control chips into production.

My car and cell phone are chip compatible.

[Ibanez]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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[Skjellyfetti]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

[UNI88]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

The Tide Pods comment is gold!

[kalm]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

We so deserve this…

[AshevilleApp]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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Yes!

I just read an article on the WLOS website that says the horse and cattle de-wormer has sold out at the local Southern States.

[Ibanez]

Are people really eschewing the now approved Covid vaccine for a topical lice treatment (or an injestible heart worm disease drug if your an animal)?

Is this really happening?


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yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

Anti-vaxxers: You aren't putting that poison in my body! It's experimental! It's not FDA approved!!
Also anti-vaxxers: Taking vitamins, Injecting ourselves with bleach and de-wormers is the only way to treat COVID-19...even though COVID-19 is a hoax.


It's getting to the point where I say, if you want to inject yourself with something so stupid, then go for it. Hurry and up and let's decrease the surplus population of knuckle-dragging mouth breathers that believe that crap.

[Winterborn]

The Tide Pods comment is gold!

It won the internet that day!

[GannonFan]

Mask efficiency study. Wide variance between the types but even cloth appears to help…

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

Is that what you took from this write-up? I think you need to read the whole thing. It basically says that wearing masks does "something", but is generally pretty ineffective unless you're wearing an N95 mask, and that the space buildup, even with surgical masks, almost fully negates their effectiveness. The report basically reads that ventilation is far more effective than even the best masks are, and that there is a substantial difference between N95 masks and even just surgical masks (while also saying that cloth masks do next to nothing).

[GannonFan]

Btw, work just mandated an abrupt return to masks anywhere on site. They still say eventually they will try to make masks optional for vaccinated people, provided they show proof of vaccination and sign off that they have been vaccinated, but apparently doing that electronically is proving to be difficult and resolution of that is now indefinite.

[89Hen]

The Tide Pods comment is gold!

Did nobody really mention the "hail merry"? People are dumb.

[Gil Dobie]

Mask efficiency study. Wide variance between the types but even cloth appears to help…

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

Is that what you took from this write-up? I think you need to read the whole thing. It basically says that wearing masks does "something", but is generally pretty ineffective unless you're wearing an N95 mask, and that the space buildup, even with surgical masks, almost fully negates their effectiveness. The report basically reads that ventilation is far more effective than even the best masks are, and that there is a substantial difference between N95 masks and even just surgical masks (while also saying that cloth masks do next to nothing).

Cloth masks range in variety from knitted with huge open area's, to double-layered with a filter in the middle. What kid of mask are they testing?

[GannonFan]

Is that what you took from this write-up? I think you need to read the whole thing. It basically says that wearing masks does "something", but is generally pretty ineffective unless you're wearing an N95 mask, and that the space buildup, even with surgical masks, almost fully negates their effectiveness. The report basically reads that ventilation is far more effective than even the best masks are, and that there is a substantial difference between N95 masks and even just surgical masks (while also saying that cloth masks do next to nothing).

Cloth masks range in variety from knitted with huge open area's, to double-layered with a filter in the middle. What kid of mask are they testing?

The study that kalm posted indicates a 3-ply cloth mask. Kalm's study basically says that since masks, even N95 ones, are so poorly fitted, that the efficacy of the masks drops precipitously to the point of almost no benefit. The study does say the room ventilation is significantly more important than even proper fitting N95 masks. I'm not sure kalm meant that in linking the study, but that's what it reads.

[Winterborn]

Cloth masks range in variety from knitted with huge open area's, to double-layered with a filter in the middle. What kid of mask are they testing?

The study that kalm posted indicates a 3-ply cloth mask. Kalm's study basically says that since masks, even N95 ones, are so poorly fitted, that the efficacy of the masks drops precipitously to the point of almost no benefit. The study does say the room ventilation is significantly more important than even proper fitting N95 masks. I'm not sure kalm meant that in linking the study, but that's what it reads.

And that does not even take into account time wearing them and the decrease in effectiveness the longer they are worn.

I see people all the time with a mask that is dirty enough that I am willing to bet it at one time was on the floorboards of their vehicle.

[GannonFan]

The study that kalm posted indicates a 3-ply cloth mask. Kalm's study basically says that since masks, even N95 ones, are so poorly fitted, that the efficacy of the masks drops precipitously to the point of almost no benefit. The study does say the room ventilation is significantly more important than even proper fitting N95 masks. I'm not sure kalm meant that in linking the study, but that's what it reads.

And that does not even take into account time wearing them and the decrease in effectiveness the longer they are worn.

I see people all the time with a mask that is dirty enough that I am willing to bet it at one time was on the floorboards of their vehicle.

The study did say the wearing of masks, from the fit to the longevity of wearing them (re-use, when they get wet, etc), does impact the quality and efficacy of the masks.

[Winterborn]

And that does not even take into account time wearing them and the decrease in effectiveness the longer they are worn.

I see people all the time with a mask that is dirty enough that I am willing to bet it at one time was on the floorboards of their vehicle.

The study did say the wearing of masks, from the fit to the longevity of wearing them (re-use, when they get wet, etc), does impact the quality and efficacy of the masks.

Just highlighting that there are many items that go into the testing of masks. Material and fit are just two of them.

[SDHornet]

Pfizer vaccine just got fully approved by the FDA..

FWIW I heard earlier this month that about 1/4 of the people who hadn’t gotten the vaccine would if it got fully approved by the FDA.Just heard someone else claim polls show 30% would.

Yup - can't complain that they're " experimental" anymore. That isn't directed at you, BDK.

Still not taking it.

[SDHornet]

TL;DR

The results show that a standard surgical and three-ply cloth masks, which see current widespread use, filter at apparent efficiencies of only 12.4% and 9.8%, respectively. Apparent efficiencies of 46.3% and 60.2% are found for KN95 and R95 masks, respectively, which are still notably lower than the verified 95% rated ideal efficiencies.

Shocker. At least the science supports the mask mandates...oh wait...

[SDHornet]

Yup - can't complain that they're " experimental" anymore. That isn't directed at you, BDK.

I don't think I will be getting a third booster when available. Even though my reaction to the second was only 24 hours, I would imagine it would be a lot worse for a third shot. Pass.

Why do you hate science?

[SDHornet]

yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

The Tide Pods comment is gold!

[SDHornet]

yes. here's a missouri talking bout procuring some for a buddy. praying the hospital staff cooperates to let him administer it to his bud.

Anti-vaxxers: You aren't putting that poison in my body! It's experimental! It's not FDA approved!!
Also anti-vaxxers: Taking vitamins, Injecting ourselves with bleach and de-wormers is the only way to treat COVID-19...even though COVID-19 is a hoax.


It's getting to the point where I say, if you want to inject yourself with something so stupid, then go for it. Hurry and up and let's decrease the surplus population of knuckle-dragging mouth breathers that believe that crap.

Agreed...goes kinda in line with the "legalize all drugs" folks. As long as I'm not stuck paying their hospital bill I couldn't care less.

[SDHornet]

The study did say the wearing of masks, from the fit to the longevity of wearing them (re-use, when they get wet, etc), does impact the quality and efficacy of the masks.

Just highlighting that there are many items that go into the testing of masks. Material and fit are just two of them.

I'm pretty sure this mask discussion was had about a year ago as anyone with a brain knew the absurdity in claiming the masks less than N95 served a purpose. Now the science has come in to backup the claim that they are mostly useless. Yay science.

[GannonFan]

Just highlighting that there are many items that go into the testing of masks. Material and fit are just two of them.

I'm pretty sure this mask discussion was had about a year ago as anyone with a brain knew the absurdity in claiming the masks less than N95 served a purpose. Now the science has come in to backup the claim that they are mostly useless. Yay science.

Yes, when the science began to waver on the efficacy of masks was about the same time that we transitioned into the virtue signaling of masks - it's about showing that we care for our community or something like that.

[SDHornet]

I like how they make the help wear the masks.

[SDHornet]

What could possibly go wrong?