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BlueHen86 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Perhaps your days as "AGS Troublemaker" caught up with you? :lol:
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AZ - your local congressman has the best change of getting you off the list. Other than that - you're SOL.

Man that must suck travelling for business.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the government will investigate its systems for placing suspicious travelers on watch lists and for detecting explosives before passengers board flights.
Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary. :roll: :roll: :roll:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I told ya officers can't be trusted.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
MJ is partially right...more right than wrong...

The 9-11 hijackings were successful because the procedures at the time left the un-reinforced doors unlocked...and if a hijacker asked they were brought forward to the flight cabin to negotiate...

Well, we now know there was no negotiation intended on that Tuesday...but if the doors had been reinforced like they are now (and had been recommended long before 9-11) and the flight crew refused to open the door even if people were threathened (as they are suppose to do now)...the attack would have failed...some flight attendants and/or passengers might have been cut or killed with the box cutters, but the planes would not have been flown into buildings...

Hind sight is so 20/20....
But that is the problem. In all likelyhood the flight crew would have opened the door since the mindset at the time was to cooperate and negotiate with hijackers in order to insure the safety of the passengers.


Post 9-11 there is no way a flight crew would open the door. I think reinforcing the doors and putting locks on them is a great idea, but I'm not sure they would have prevented 9-11 had they been in place at that time.
Exactly right. I'll bet every person on those planes was expecting to be inconvenienced by a side trip to Cuba and ransom negotiations, nothing more.

The new paradigm is also why it is vital that pilots not be armed. As long as guns can be kept off planes, the passengers can take care of problems in the seating area.
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Here's the joke of our system: AZGrizFan is on the no-fly list. That's right, that's what 22 years of military service gets you, apparently. I do NOT have the ability to check in remotely, and must stand in line each time, show my passport or other government issued ID, and am constantly subjected to additional security checks. Don't ask me HOW, or WHY, but I'm on the list and it's difficult to get off the list.

THAT'S how flawed the system is, despite that dyke Napolitano's reassurances to the contrary. :roll: :roll: :roll:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I told ya officers can't be trusted.
You're on it too, numbnuts. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I told ya officers can't be trusted.
You're on it too, numbnuts. :coffee:
If so, it's worse than we think, based on my recent hassle-free trip to Hawaii for our 25th. They never even glanced at my ukulele.
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
You're on it too, numbnuts. :coffee:
If so, it's worse than we think, based on my recent hassle-free trip to Hawaii for our 25th. They never even glanced at my ukulele.
Yes. It's worse than you think. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
If so, it's worse than we think, based on my recent hassle-free trip to Hawaii for our 25th. They never even glanced at my ukulele.
Yes. It's worse than you think. :coffee:
To paraphrase Haldane, it's probably worse than we can think.
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Yes. It's worse than you think. :coffee:
To paraphrase Haldane, it's probably worse than we can think.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
To paraphrase Haldane, it's probably worse than we can think.
:nod: :nod: :nod: :kisswink:
Good thing I seldom fly. :nod: :nod: :nod: :kisswink:
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:nod: :nod: :nod: :kisswink:
Good thing I seldom fly. :nod: :nod: :nod: :kisswink:
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I thought that being nice to everybody was going to fix all this bullsh!t.
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CID1990 wrote:Know what I do on airplanes?

I stare at people who are of obvious MIddle Eastern descent or dressed in Muslim garb. I stare at the motherfvckers. When they get up to go to the sh!tter, I act like I'm standing up to follow them. Families with children, obvious businessmen, women, the whole lot. I truly hope I make the cocksuckers as uncomfortable as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Maybe one day they will get a clue and stop donating money to CAIR and their fvcking second cousins in Lebanon. When I was a cop, I used to look right at them while I informed the stewardesses that I was a cop and if they needed anything I would be in seat 12-C. That's right, I'm an insensitive bastard who singles out people based on how they look. Fvck em.

Rein in your own shi!theads, assholes, and the CID will stop harrassing you. Otherwise, stay the fvck in Yemen or whatever sh!thole you escaped from.
CID1990 wrote:I thought that being nice to everybody was going to fix all this bullsh!t.
It will, but only if everybody is nice. Based on your first quote above, you aren't being nice. :lol:
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This is what my son brought me back when he returned from Iraq recently...

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Think I might wear it the next time I travel... :twisted: :mrgreen:
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Col Hogan wrote:This is what my son brought me back when he returned from Iraq recently...

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Think I might wear it the next time I travel... :twisted: :mrgreen:
You'll be treated a heck of a lot better than the typical flier! :roll:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Know what I do on airplanes?

I stare at people who are of obvious MIddle Eastern descent or dressed in Muslim garb. I stare at the motherfvckers. When they get up to go to the sh!tter, I act like I'm standing up to follow them. Families with children, obvious businessmen, women, the whole lot. I truly hope I make the cocksuckers as uncomfortable as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Maybe one day they will get a clue and stop donating money to CAIR and their fvcking second cousins in Lebanon. When I was a cop, I used to look right at them while I informed the stewardesses that I was a cop and if they needed anything I would be in seat 12-C. That's right, I'm an insensitive bastard who singles out people based on how they look. Fvck em.

Rein in your own shi!theads, *******, and the CID will stop harrassing you. Otherwise, stay the fvck in Yemen or whatever sh!thole you escaped from.
CID1990 wrote:I thought that being nice to everybody was going to fix all this bullsh!t.
It will, but only if everybody is nice. Based on your first quote above, you aren't being nice. :lol:
I'M not the one apologizing for America every chance I get. But you're right. I'm one of those rough men. Somehow I don't think I'm getting invited to your bridge club, but somehow I am just not losing sleep over it.
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CID1990 wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:


It will, but only if everybody is nice. Based on your first quote above, you aren't being nice. :lol:
I'M not the one apologizing for America every chance I get. But you're right. I'm one of those rough men. Somehow I don't think I'm getting invited to your bridge club, but somehow I am just not losing sleep over it.
With rough men like you around, It's a wonder that the terrorists can stop shaking long enough to detonate their explosives. Helluva job, Brownie.
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AZGrizFan wrote:JFC. BLANKETS??? PILLOWS???? Now, more than ever, I will NOT be flying unless absolutely necessary.

Does this include "Snuggies?"

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The Dutch TSA just announced that, until further notice, they will grab the crotch of every U.S.-bound passenger. No exceptions! :shock: :?
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Ivytalk wrote:The Dutch TSA just announced that, until further notice, they will grab the crotch of every U.S.-bound passenger. No exceptions! :shock: :?

Actually, I heard there was an exception for US bound males. As long as you put a lock on your cockpit door, the Dutch TSA won't try to access it.
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