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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Trump's accomplishments are really disappointing you, eh?
Hilariously,
Even the conservative press can't quite explain Trumps "accomplishments"
without letting a few cats out of bags

The Judicial appointments:
Signature accomplishment
(Grade A+)

Clearing the swamp:
Trump pledged to fix corruption between Gov and Corp America
then appointed officials from industries they were supposed to regulate...
several were forced to resign, while others were accused of breaking ethics rules
(Grade D-)

Health care:
Trump promised "great health care" but has concentrated mainly on dismantling the Affordable Care Act
and his team of Healthcare Experts have offered up only "Healthcare is hard... who knew it was this hard"
(Grade C)

Tax cut:
His biggest legislative victory has had less economic impact than expected
corporations and the top 5% got its main benefits. Effectively trickle down part 2
(Grade A+ if you're top 5% or a Global Mega Corp)
(Grade C if you're middle class)

The economy:
The economic trend Trump inherited has continued tracking identically to the prior 4 years
creating 4.3 million private sector jobs in 22 months (roughly comparable to the 4.48 million in President Barack Obama's last 22 months)
Unemployment hit record lows and the gross domestic product surged in 2018's second quarter to 4.2 percent
(Grade B+ nothing he's done has broken the economic up trend)

Trade:
Trump raised tariffs on enemies and allies alike / The trade deficit has continued to rise
hoping to spur trade deals but threatening global and domestic economic isolation
He hailed a new trade deal with Canada and Mexico
Experts saw little difference from the prior NAFTA treaty
(Grade: Unknown)

Regulatory reform:
The biggest division among field experts
The Mega Corps and conservative pundits applaud wide spread deregulation moves by Trump
Liberals cry foul
(Grade A+)

Immigration:
Trump abandoned vows to make Mexico pay for the wall and Congress has rejected most funding
Illegal immigration has fallen modestly
(Grade B)

Budget deficit:
Trump didn't try to cut the federal deficit - which he's complained about for the last 30 years
$666 billion in fiscal 2017
$779 billion in fiscal 2018 mainly from the tax cut and increased spending
(grade F)
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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote: I would bet that if we could take a poll right now of the entire world and ask:

Who do you have more respect for, Greta or Trump?

Greta would win by a wide margin. And she might even win if you were to just poll people in the United States.
Trump's accomplishments are really disappointing you, eh?
Understand that I do not consider what's going on with the economy right now as a "Trump accomplishment." The economy has simply continued as it was proceeding before he got elected. He has not screwed it up. And that is a surprise to me. But we do not have the low unemployment rate, the 2 to 3 percent annual GDP growth rate, the 200K plus or minus a few jobs creation rate, the current general stock market value level, etc., because of Trump. All of those things are about where we'd expect them to be given what the trends were under Obama

Either way: If you were to poll people of the entire world and ask who has more respect I am confident that Greta would win by a wide margin.

We have a total buffoon as President who is a total embarrassment to us. The fact that our system ended up with him elected as President makes us look like complete fools. And we look more and more like fools as time goes on and we continue to have a substantial proportion of the population supporting this guy.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hilariously,
Even the conservative press can't quite explain Trumps "accomplishments"
without letting a few cats out of bags

The Judicial appointments:
Signature accomplishment
(Grade A+)

Clearing the swamp:
Trump pledged to fix corruption between Gov and Corp America
then appointed officials from industries they were supposed to regulate...
several were forced to resign, while others were accused of breaking ethics rules
(Grade D-)

Health care:
Trump promised "great health care" but has concentrated mainly on dismantling the Affordable Care Act
and his team of Healthcare Experts have offered up only "Healthcare is hard... who knew it was this hard"
(Grade C)

Tax cut:
His biggest legislative victory has had less economic impact than expected
corporations and the top 5% got its main benefits. Effectively trickle down part 2
(Grade A+ if you're top 5% or a Global Mega Corp)
(Grade C if you're middle class)

The economy:
The economic trend Trump inherited has continued tracking identically to the prior 4 years
creating 4.3 million private sector jobs in 22 months (roughly comparable to the 4.48 million in President Barack Obama's last 22 months)
Unemployment hit record lows and the gross domestic product surged in 2018's second quarter to 4.2 percent
(Grade B+ nothing he's done has broken the economic up trend)

Trade:
Trump raised tariffs on enemies and allies alike / The trade deficit has continued to rise
hoping to spur trade deals but threatening global and domestic economic isolation
He hailed a new trade deal with Canada and Mexico
Experts saw little difference from the prior NAFTA treaty
(Grade: Unknown)

Regulatory reform:
The biggest division among field experts
The Mega Corps and conservative pundits applaud wide spread deregulation moves by Trump
Liberals cry foul
(Grade A+)

Immigration:
Trump abandoned vows to make Mexico pay for the wall and Congress has rejected most funding
Illegal immigration has fallen modestly
(Grade B)

Budget deficit:
Trump didn't try to cut the federal deficit - which he's complained about for the last 30 years
$666 billion in fiscal 2017
$779 billion in fiscal 2018 mainly from the tax cut and increased spending
(grade F)
Link?
BDKJMU... lets take them one at a time
which one do you find the most suspicious and I'll give you links to support it
otherwise we're looking at a sh!tload of links

so pick one you disagree with... and lets start there
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AZGrizFan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Those are fairly accurate. I would give him more props for the economy but not a higher grade. Anecdotally, it feels different, more vibrant, than it did under Obama and he should get props for doing it against a headwind.

I would also give him a B+ for Trade. The results aren't known yet but I'm glad we're shaking things up. The US has been propping up international trade with relatively open markets and safe shipping lanes since WWII and the world thinks that is the norm.
I too think those are fairly accurate. I would give him more props for the tax cut, because that 35% down to 21% was HUGE for small businesses. Every small business owner I know or talk to (and it's a lot) mention it almost constantly...what a huge difference it made in their cash flows and business plans.

Only other picky thing is you sound like JSO with the "he hasn't changed any of the upward economic trends"...he's reached historic highs or lows not seen in decades...if it was so easy, a caveman could do it, but nobody in the past 50-60-70 years has been able to. Until now. Even in the face of the unknown (and presumed negative) impacts from his ill-timed tariff discussions/actions....
Thats because when a Democrat is President the President doesn't have any impact on the economy and low unemployment is because of labor participation rates and the DOW isn't really a n accurate indicator. Remember?
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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's almost as if you have never heard of a fad. Keep digging that hole Cleets.

Joel Osteen has been exposed as a fraud and he is dishonest and been shown to be dishonest
Me "wanting" him to go away isn't really relevant to his existence - he is beloved by millions of idiots

Greta is a star in Europe
Fox News and conservative Americans wanting her to just go away isn't really relevant

See how that works
She gets bigger crowds than Joel on her home turf and she's rallying our kids in the USA
She's been on TV in Europe for 4 years now...

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: :roll:
Watch... :nod:

The fact that the daily news cycle can't distinguish her from some little communist asshole
is not particularly significant and just wanting her to "go away" is not relevant either

She routinely gets well over 100,000 protesters in Europe
She is regarded as the "voice of a generation" among 7 to 16 crowd

She's here to stay

Fox News and Trump have only served to make her more popular
She'll probably get lost in the crowd if she doesn't OD on barbiturates before she's 30

I sometimes feel that entire age group has Asperger's.
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"Voice of a generation." :lol:

"I should be in school."
"People are dying."
"Shame on you."

There's the Gettysburg Address of the 21st century right there. :lol:
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Pwns wrote:"Voice of a generation." :lol:

"I should be in school."
"People are dying."
"Shame on you."

There's the Gettysburg Address of the 21st century right there. :lol:
At least they'll be able to make the monuments smaller.
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Isn't one of them on AGT?
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CID1990 wrote:
Pwns wrote:"Voice of a generation." :lol:

"I should be in school."
"People are dying."
"Shame on you."

There's the Gettysburg Address of the 21st century right there. :lol:
At least they'll be able to make the monuments smaller.
Which will make it easier to tear down by the following generation. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: As much as I hate to give Trump props for anything, but moving sections of the Bureau of Land Management and the Dept of Agriculture out of DC and into the actual areas they are supposed to serve was a great move and is making Washington a little less swampy.
I would guess this is spot on and local BLM and AG boots on the ground would agree. They’re the experts.
I fully agree as well. :nod:

My experience with the AG side is that the ones that are working directly with you and are from that area have a much better understand of the challenges that go on in farming. The DC folks are more interested in careers then doing their job.

As for the BLM, it has been my experience that they should clean house and start over. But that is based on friends that ranch in Western ND and Montana. There is definitely no love lost between the two groups.
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mainejeff2 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I remember when the Spice Girls were all the rage. Posh is still around but only because she married a soccer star and made friends with the royals (not the baseball team either).
Wow....you know more about the Spice Girls than I do....and I’m gay. :?

:coffee:
I find your stereotyping to be offensive. I probably am more knowledgeable than you in show tunes and all things Broadway, but that's also why stereotypes aren't always correct. :thumb:
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mainejeff2 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I remember when the Spice Girls were all the rage. Posh is still around but only because she married a soccer star and made friends with the royals (not the baseball team either).
Wow....you know more about the Spice Girls than I do....and I’m gay. :?

:coffee:
Yeah but you’re also a miserable toad who sucks the joy out of everything like a sociopathic black hole

So not surprising re: you and the Spice Girls


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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Link?
BDKJMU... lets take them one at a time
which one do you find the most suspicious and I'll give you links to support it
otherwise we're looking at a sh!tload of links

so pick one you disagree with... and lets start there
The majority I would agree with. Might change some grades a little, add some caveats here and there (as other have suggested). I'm just curious the source. When other people copy/paste several paragraphs of something, they typically give a link, or say where they got it from. So is their link for this whole screed, did you get it from Facebook, etc, or did you type up the whole thing yourself?
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Chizzang wrote:[
The economy:
The economic trend Trump inherited has continued tracking identically to the prior 4 years
creating 4.3 million private sector jobs in 22 months (roughly comparable to the 4.48 million in President Barack Obama's last 22 months)
Unemployment hit record lows and the gross domestic product surged in 2018's second quarter to 4.2 percent
(Grade B+ nothing he's done has broken the economic up trend)
Thank you. I think that is a good synopsis.

As I've said before: I was wrong in that I thought Trump getting elected would screw the economy up. It did not. But this idea that Trump rescued us in economic terms and improved things is highly nonsense. We are basically in the same economy as we we've been in for a little over 10 years now.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Chizzang wrote:[
The economy:
The economic trend Trump inherited has continued tracking identically to the prior 4 years
creating 4.3 million private sector jobs in 22 months (roughly comparable to the 4.48 million in President Barack Obama's last 22 months)
Unemployment hit record lows and the gross domestic product surged in 2018's second quarter to 4.2 percent
(Grade B+ nothing he's done has broken the economic up trend)
Thank you. I think that is a good synopsis.

As I've said before: I was wrong in that I thought Trump getting elected would screw the economy up. It did not. But this idea that Trump rescued us in economic terms and improved things is highly nonsense. We are basically in the same economy as we we've been in for a little over 10 years now.
There's no need for you to continue to comment. We already know that you don't understand what's going on.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Thank you. I think that is a good synopsis.

As I've said before: I was wrong in that I thought Trump getting elected would screw the economy up. It did not. But this idea that Trump rescued us in economic terms and improved things is highly nonsense. We are basically in the same economy as we we've been in for a little over 10 years now.
There's no need for you to continue to comment. We already know that you don't understand what's going on.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yep. Same economy. Nothings changed. Same same....nothing to see here. :dunce: :dunce:
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GannonFan wrote:
mainejeff2 wrote:
Wow....you know more about the Spice Girls than I do....and I’m gay. :?

:coffee:
I find your stereotyping to be offensive. I probably am more knowledgeable than you in show tunes and all things Broadway, but that's also why stereotypes aren't always correct. :thumb:
You aren't gay? :?
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houndawg wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I find your stereotyping to be offensive. I probably am more knowledgeable than you in show tunes and all things Broadway, but that's also why stereotypes aren't always correct. :thumb:
You aren't gay? :?
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CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff2 wrote:
Wow....you know more about the Spice Girls than I do....and I’m gay. :?

:coffee:
Yeah but you’re also a miserable toad who sucks the joy out of everything like a sociopathic black hole

So not surprising re: you and the Spice Girls


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houndawg wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I find your stereotyping to be offensive. I probably am more knowledgeable than you in show tunes and all things Broadway, but that's also why stereotypes aren't always correct. :thumb:
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mainejeff2 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Yeah but you’re also a miserable toad who sucks the joy out of everything like a sociopathic black hole

So not surprising re: you and the Spice Girls


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AZGrizFan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: There's no need for you to continue to comment. We already know that you don't understand what's going on.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yep. Same economy. Nothings changed. Same same....nothing to see here. :dunce: :dunce:
Yes. I am correct. Why don't you guys try making actual quantitative arguments. Let's start with unemployment. Look at the graph below then make your argument for why the data represented by that graph indicate that the trend changed in association with Trump getting elected and/or taking office:

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Now here is one on job creation:

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Please make your argument for why the data represented in that graph suggest that something changed about the general variation in job creation when Trump took office.
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Below is another one. It shows quarterly real GDP from the first quarter of 2000 through the 3rd quarter of this year. Please provide your quantitative argument as to why you think it shows that something changed in the basic nature of the trend around the time I marked (4th quarter of 2016):

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