North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Football Championship Subdivision discussions
User avatar
AZGrizFan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59959
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
Location: Just to the right of center

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by AZGrizFan »

Theee Catrabbit wrote:Bison win this. Everybody every week has said how their style will dominate NDSU. Guess what? Great Defense and running games win championships. NDSU has both and a damn good QB/WR combo. Not discounting SHSU, I hope they win the damn thing, but they won't. I imagine SHSU is going to pull every trick out of their magic bag. Oh and NDSU will have three weeks to prepare for that SHSU offense, not 1. Unfortunately we will be seeing that stupid prairie cow logo on top of this page for a year. :thumbdown:

I suppose if someone wanted to do some comparisons these would be a good start.

SHSU v WIU 20-6 (Beginning of the season at SHSU)
NDSU v WIU 37-21 (End of the season at WIU)
Which actually worked out pretty well in the SHSU/UM matchup. We both slaughtered MSU and UCA, and the game between us ended up a 3-point affair.

Not sure how WIU put up 21 on North Dakota, but their defense seems to be playing better now than it has all year. Then again, SH's offense seems to be playing better than it was at the beginning of the season too.

I still think North Dakota pulls this one out, and I'm not sure it'll be real close. I'm guessing 31-17 or something along those lines.
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
Image
User avatar
rkwittem
Level2
Level2
Posts: 889
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:08 am
I am a fan of: North Dakota State
Location: Fargo, ND

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by rkwittem »

What I saw until Flanders saved SHSU was that the Bearkats were starting to wear down in the 2nd half from the pounding of Montana's offensive line. No offense to Montana, but I think NDSU is even more physical than them and will almost certainly attempt to wear down the Bearkats defensive line. I'll even guarantee that it is NDSU's offensive gameplan.
Image
User avatar
Willie
Level4
Level4
Posts: 8474
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:34 pm
Location: O-H-I-O

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Willie »

Bison56 wrote:
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:I think UND can pull this one out since their D is better.


:evil:
:laugh:
Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne
User avatar
WYOBISONMAN
Level1
Level1
Posts: 250
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:35 pm
I am a fan of: The NDSU Bison
Location: WYOMING, USA

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by WYOBISONMAN »

AZGrizFan wrote:
Theee Catrabbit wrote:Bison win this. Everybody every week has said how their style will dominate NDSU. Guess what? Great Defense and running games win championships. NDSU has both and a damn good QB/WR combo. Not discounting SHSU, I hope they win the damn thing, but they won't. I imagine SHSU is going to pull every trick out of their magic bag. Oh and NDSU will have three weeks to prepare for that SHSU offense, not 1. Unfortunately we will be seeing that stupid prairie cow logo on top of this page for a year. :thumbdown:

I suppose if someone wanted to do some comparisons these would be a good start.

SHSU v WIU 20-6 (Beginning of the season at SHSU)
NDSU v WIU 37-21 (End of the season at WIU)
Which actually worked out pretty well in the SHSU/UM matchup. We both slaughtered MSU and UCA, and the game between us ended up a 3-point affair.

Not sure how WIU put up 21 on North Dakota, but their defense seems to be playing better now than it has all year. Then again, SH's offense seems to be playing better than it was at the beginning of the season too.

I still think North Dakota pulls this one out, and I'm not sure it'll be real close. I'm guessing 31-17 or something along those lines.
I think the Bison team you see in Frisco will be a bit tougher than the one that played against GSU. This is due to a 3 week lay off and a lot of nagging injuries that will heal.
User avatar
Willie
Level4
Level4
Posts: 8474
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:34 pm
Location: O-H-I-O

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Willie »

Ugh, it PAINS me to admit, but I think NDSU will win this one. The team deserves it, MOST of the fans do not. I had the chance to see them play many times while I was living in Fargo, and they have a damn good program.

So from this Griz fan, go Bison. :twocents:
Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne
User avatar
EWURanger
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 4712
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:06 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern Washington

North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by EWURanger »

Thinking NDSU probably wins it.......really hoping Sam Houston does.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Image
JayJ79
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4253
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:52 pm
I am a fan of: myself

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JayJ79 »

rkwittem wrote:What I saw until Flanders saved SHSU was that the Bearkats were starting to wear down in the 2nd half from the pounding of Montana's offensive line. No offense to Montana, but I think NDSU is even more physical than them and will almost certainly attempt to wear down the Bearkats defensive line. I'll even guarantee that it is NDSU's offensive gameplan.
Not sure I can agree with the statement of NDSU being more physical than Montana,
but both are definitely very physical teams, and yes, Montana's physical advantage did seem to wear on SHSU as the game progressed, which diminished the Kats' speed advantage to some extent (just not enough to swing the outcome of the game).

But it should definitely be a good game here in a few weeks
User avatar
AZGrizFan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59959
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
Location: Just to the right of center

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by AZGrizFan »

JayJ79 wrote:
rkwittem wrote:What I saw until Flanders saved SHSU was that the Bearkats were starting to wear down in the 2nd half from the pounding of Montana's offensive line. No offense to Montana, but I think NDSU is even more physical than them and will almost certainly attempt to wear down the Bearkats defensive line. I'll even guarantee that it is NDSU's offensive gameplan.
Not sure I can agree with the statement of NDSU being more physical than Montana,
but both are definitely very physical teams, and yes, Montana's physical advantage did seem to wear on SHSU as the game progressed, which diminished the Kats' speed advantage to some extent (just not enough to swing the outcome of the game).

But it should definitely be a good game here in a few weeks
Question: Does North Dakota run a hurry up/no huddle offense? Because THAT was why SHSU's defensive linemen were sucking wind by the end of the 3rd quarter.
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
Image
htownbearkat
Level1
Level1
Posts: 329
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:12 pm
I am a fan of: SHSU
Location: TEXAS

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by htownbearkat »

AZGrizFan wrote:
JayJ79 wrote:
Not sure I can agree with the statement of NDSU being more physical than Montana,
but both are definitely very physical teams, and yes, Montana's physical advantage did seem to wear on SHSU as the game progressed, which diminished the Kats' speed advantage to some extent (just not enough to swing the outcome of the game).

But it should definitely be a good game here in a few weeks
Question: Does North Dakota run a hurry up/no huddle offense? Because THAT was why SHSU's defensive linemen were sucking wind by the end of the 3rd quarter.
This thread seems to be going the same way as the MSU, MU and to a lesser degree even the SBU thread went. " SHSU will lose". Funny how in this thread its all about the Bearkats D running down in the 4th. When it really counted though with 5 min to go in the game it was the Griz D who could not make a stop. They new exactly what we were going to do and who was going to get the ball. just sayin.
And its not all about Flanders, each games in the playoffs the bearkats have featured different people. Flanders only had 38 yrds on the ground vs MSU. It was Sincere (among others) who ripped the hearts out of the Bobcats. With 3 weeks to prepare coach Fritz will probably come up with a different scheme all together. Im sure after the Bearkats win this board will continue to discount the Kats. Cant wait for next year when we are preseason #1(all skill players are underclassmen) and play our "weak slc schedule". This site might just explode.
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/ ... RKNADO.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JBB »

Willie wrote:Ugh, it PAINS me to admit, but I think NDSU will win this one. The team deserves it, MOST of the fans do not. I had the chance to see them play many times while I was living in Fargo, and they have a damn good program.

So from this Griz fan, go Bison. :twocents:
:lol:
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
GrizFanStuckInUtah
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3758
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:27 am
I am a fan of: Montana

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by GrizFanStuckInUtah »

Willie wrote:Ugh, it PAINS me to admit, but I think NDSU will win this one. The team deserves it, MOST of the fans do not. I had the chance to see them play many times while I was living in Fargo, and they have a damn good program.

So from this Griz fan, go Bison. :twocents:
I'm not sure how you can root for UND Willie, it just hurts a little doesn't it? :coffee:
-Go Griz!
-Class of '97
-Thank you to all our Veterans. :bow:
El Griz
Posts: 59
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:44 pm
I am a fan of: Montana

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by El Griz »

As we continue to sit in silence while the CAA fans are scanning the bracket trying to figure out where the hell their teams are....................I will make the pick, NDSU. Too much of everything (except speed) for SHSU.
User avatar
Wedgebuster
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 12260
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:06 pm
I am a fan of: UNC BEARS
A.K.A.: OB55
Location: Where The Rivers Run North

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Wedgebuster »

Three weeks off?

This will be a rust fest, not likely to be very well played.
Image
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Grizalltheway »

Wedgebuster wrote:Three weeks off?

This will be a rust fest, not likely to be very well played.
Yet another reason they should have left the playoffs at 16 teams. :ohno:
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JBB »

Gil Dobie wrote:
navtechie wrote: Where's the weekly trolls telling us that NDSU can't win and the MSFC sucks. blah, blah. blah.

:coffee:
They are mostly going after Lakes and JBB and it's taken away from football talk on cs.com. I would like to hear their unbiased input a lot more than their response to Lakes and JBB.
This guy is the biggest anonymous dumb-ass I have ever seen. Thats not hate either, its disgust. The high and mighty gill dopey doesnt like folks going after lakes and JBB because it takes away from the football talk yet the nincompoop uses his signature line to taunt and troll. He fits right in with the culture of hate prevalent on this board.

Shame really..... :ohno:
Concerned Observer wrote:This gil dobie has so much hate he cant see himself hating!
Last edited by JBB on Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JBB »

Grizalltheway wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Three weeks off?

This will be a rust fest, not likely to be very well played.
Yet another reason they should have left the playoffs at 16 teams. :ohno:
By the looks of the SHSU scores they could have been given a bye to the Title Game, I guess some of you fellers call it "The Chipper" :geek:. They werent really challanged by either of their opponents.

One thing we do know, the Option is not some kind of mystery. A good defense can stop it every time.

Watch for the call. Its coming up.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Grizalltheway »

JBB wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Yet another reason they should have left the playoffs at 16 teams. :ohno:
By the looks of the SHSU scores they could have been given a bye to the Title Game, I guess some of you fellers call it "The Chipper" :geek:. They werent really challanged by either of their opponents.

One thing we do know, the Option is not some kind of mystery. A good defense can stop it every time.

Watch for the call. Its coming up.
Thanks for confirming your stupidity for the umpteenth time. :lol: :thumb:
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JBB »

Hater. Who challenged them?
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Grizalltheway »

JBB wrote:Hater. Who challenged them?
Stony Brook and UM.
JBB
Level3
Level3
Posts: 4312
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by JBB »

UM did not

Montana mistakes:

1) forever left "the seam" open.

2) Didnt put good hits on the decoy back. A lot of times when the dive back was decoyed the Montana defender would let up when they noticed. They should follow through with a good tackle, drive the running back to the ground.

3) Didnt respond with their own offense. It was dismal. 2 consecutive scoring drives were stopped by Montana mistakes.

That game was a yawner and never in doubt.
Dear Lord, We come before you and humbly ask you to grant our prayer for a veil of protection to be placed over Donald Trump. May your will be done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by Grizalltheway »

JBB wrote:UM did not

Montana mistakes:

1) forever left "the seam" open.

2) Didnt put good hits on the decoy back. A lot of times when the dive back was decoyed the Montana defender would let up when they noticed. They should follow through with a good tackle, drive the running back to the ground.

3) Didnt respond with their own offense. It was dismal. 2 consecutive scoring drives were stopped by Montana mistakes.

That game was a yawner and never in doubt.
The game is over and Sam won fair and square, but if you think a three point loss doesn't constitute 'challenging' a team, you're just a complete...well, JBB.

Now GFY. :thumb:
User avatar
GrizFanStuckInUtah
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3758
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:27 am
I am a fan of: Montana

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by GrizFanStuckInUtah »

Grizalltheway wrote:
JBB wrote:UM did not

Montana mistakes:

1) forever left "the seam" open.

2) Didnt put good hits on the decoy back. A lot of times when the dive back was decoyed the Montana defender would let up when they noticed. They should follow through with a good tackle, drive the running back to the ground.

3) Didnt respond with their own offense. It was dismal. 2 consecutive scoring drives were stopped by Montana mistakes.

That game was a yawner and never in doubt.
The game is over and Sam won fair and square, but if you think a three point loss doesn't constitute 'challenging' a team, you're just a complete...well, JBB.

Now GFY. :thumb:
It's alright, he thinks his Sioux are gonna do better. :coffee:
-Go Griz!
-Class of '97
-Thank you to all our Veterans. :bow:
dekes
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:37 pm
I am a fan of: NDSU
A.K.A.: Bison

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by dekes »

Tim Flanders is a true talent. Has he met a young man named Colton Heagle? That will be interesting.
Can NDSU win on the road? Ask the U of Kansas and the U of Minnesota that question. Someone said that Sam Houston tickets were already sold out. So are NDSU's.
The Sam Houston players will be in for a rude awakening when the meet up with the young men on offense for NDSU. Remember these names, Billy Turner, Austin Richards, Joe Lund, Paul Cornick, Sam Ojuri, DJ McNorton, Ryan Smith and most important Brock Jensen and "Big Tex" Hollaway
And NDSU's defense is even better
htownbearkat
Level1
Level1
Posts: 329
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:12 pm
I am a fan of: SHSU
Location: TEXAS

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by htownbearkat »

dekes wrote:Tim Flanders is a true talent. Has he met a young man named Colton Heagle? That will be interesting.
Can NDSU win on the road? Ask the U of Kansas and the U of Minnesota that question. Someone said that Sam Houston tickets were already sold out. So are NDSU's.
The Sam Houston players will be in for a rude awakening when the meet up with the young men on offense for NDSU. Remember these names, Billy Turner, Austin Richards, Joe Lund, Paul Cornick, Sam Ojuri, DJ McNorton, Ryan Smith and most important Brock Jensen and "Big Tex" Hollaway
And NDSU's defense is even better

Not sure what we will do with only Tim Flanders. Doesnt seem fair that you can name 9 players from your own squad. :rofl:

See the SHSU vs MSU box score. please note Flanders only had 38 yrds rushing, but the team had over 400 yrds on the ground. :coffee:
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/ ... RKNADO.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
htownbearkat
Level1
Level1
Posts: 329
Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:12 pm
I am a fan of: SHSU
Location: TEXAS

Re: North Dakota State vs Sam Houston State FCS Championship

Post by htownbearkat »

And welcome to the board. I finally not the new guy anymore.
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/ ... RKNADO.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Post Reply