Big Sky preseason polls

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:38 pm

SuperHornet wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:

No, we don't.

Nor do we care.
Wrong!

YOU don't care. There ARE people around here who do. YOU are NOT everyone....

Oh, so it's alright for YOU to use the royal we, but not uofmman?

CPAlum · Post by **CPAlum** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 am

SloStang wrote:
Darell1976 wrote:
I know it wasn't date by date and year by year I just did a quick history lesson. I am suprised that the BSC didn't jump on Cal Poly when they accepted UNC.
The way I understand it the Big Sky had an open invitation to Cal Poly for as a full member, but Cal Poly was not willing to pull their Olympic sports from the Big West because of travel cost and the Big Sky did not sponsor baseball, softball and men's soccer (all big sports for Cal Poly). When the Big Sky offered a football affiliate membership Cal Poly jumped all over it.

Yep....baseball and especially soccer are a bigger deal at Poly than folks from other schools understand. For Cal Poly to leave the BWC and their rivalry with UCSB is almost a non-starter. The BSC/BWC membership is a really sweet deal for Cal Poly.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am

I forgot for a second that there were more than just AWC-connected people in the room, GATW. Anyone whose team was in the AWC would know that the 1995 AWC football champions had the awesome nickname of Hornets....

Green Laser · Post by **Green Laser** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 am

CPAlum wrote:
SloStang wrote: The way I understand it the Big Sky had an open invitation to Cal Poly for as a full member, but Cal Poly was not willing to pull their Olympic sports from the Big West because of travel cost and the Big Sky did not sponsor baseball, softball and men's soccer (all big sports for Cal Poly). When the Big Sky offered a football affiliate membership Cal Poly jumped all over it.

Yep....baseball and especially soccer are a bigger deal at Poly than folks from other schools understand. For Cal Poly to leave the BWC and their rivalry with UCSB is almost a non-starter. The BSC/BWC membership is a really sweet deal for Cal Poly.

When Boise, Nevada and Idaho left the Big Sky the Conference chose Sac State, Portland and Northridge as replacements. The BSC wanted to expand into the west coast and locate teams in major media markets for recruiting and marketing. I recall Poly being in consideration and the conference touring the campus but a invitation was not extended in favor of the other three. davis at the time was still d2 so they were not in consideration.
I am glad that the BSC finally allowed Poly and davis in even as "Part Skyers" it will be good to have all the California schools in the same conference again, even if it is only for football.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:22 pm

In no particular order,

Contenders: EWU, MSU, UM, Cal Poly
Dark Horses: SUU, WSU, PSU
Middle of the Pack: NAU, UND, SAC
Stragglers: UCD, UNC, ISU

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:31 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:In no particular order,

Contenders: EWU, MSU, UM, Cap Poly
Dark Horses: SUU, WSU, PSU
Middle of the Pack: NAU, UND, SAC
Stragglers: UCD, UNC, ISU

I think this is about as precise as you can get at this point in the (pre) season.

fugawe09 · Post by **fugawe09** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:58 pm

Green Laser wrote: I am glad that the BSC finally allowed Poly and davis in even as "Part Skyers" it will be good to have all the California schools in the same conference again, even if it is only for football.

Me too. Being quasi-independent (since GWFC was really only ever a partial conference) was starting to be a real bitch. There was some discussion on the UCD board about coming up with a California Cup or something for whoever beats out the others between Davis, Sac, and Cal Poly. Davis/Sac have the Causeway Carriage and Davis/CP have the Golden Horseshoe. Is there anything between Sac and CP or is that not so much of a rivalry?

I more or less agree with Screamin_Eagle174's synopsis. Although I'd probably put Cal Poly more nearly middle of the pack. But it's all farts in the wind right now. That's why they play the games.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:26 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:In no particular order,

Contenders: EWU, MSU, UM, Cap Poly
Dark Horses: SUU, WSU, PSU
Middle of the Pack: NAU, UND, SAC
Stragglers: UCD, UNC, ISU

Swap Sac and SUU, bump UND to the cusp of DH, and bump UCD to MoP (lower end).

free7694 · Post by **free7694** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:06 pm

#MyTeamSucks

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:43 pm

free7694 wrote:#MyTeamSucks

They do, but not quite as bad as they have. I was impressed with how much of a game UNC gave us last year in Cheney. Lobato is a pretty good QB. Every 3rd and 7 or 8, I thought we were going to get our D off then field, and then he made something happen every time. UNC will start to win games with him.

Post by **EWURanger** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:19 pm

Indeed, UNC's defense will win some games for them this year IMO.

Also, they got completely robbed in the UND game last season.

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Herky · Post by **Herky** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:51 am

fugawe09 wrote:
Green Laser wrote: I am glad that the BSC finally allowed Poly and davis in even as "Part Skyers" it will be good to have all the California schools in the same conference again, even if it is only for football.
Me too. Being quasi-independent (since GWFC was really only ever a partial conference) was starting to be a real bitch. There was some discussion on the UCD board about coming up with a California Cup or something for whoever beats out the others between Davis, Sac, and Cal Poly. Davis/Sac have the Causeway Carriage and Davis/CP have the Golden Horseshoe. Is there anything between Sac and CP or is that not so much of a rivalry?

I more or less agree with Screamin_Eagle174's synopsis. Although I'd probably put Cal Poly more nearly middle of the pack. But it's all farts in the wind right now. That's why they play the games.

The game between Sac and Poly is referred to as the Green and Gold Bowl, however, there is no trophy or other type of prize that follows the winner. Poly currently leads 16-15 all time.

I like the idea of having a "California Cup".

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:58 am

EWURanger wrote:Indeed, UNC's defense will win some games for them this year IMO.

Also, they got completely robbed in the UND game last season.

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Wasnt it the Portland State game they got robbed of?

Post by **EWURanger** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:24 pm

Wildcat Ryan wrote:
EWURanger wrote:Indeed, UNC's defense will win some games for them this year IMO.

Also, they got completely robbed in the UND game last season.

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Wasnt it the Portland State game they got robbed of?

I thought it was UND but maybe you are right.

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BigSkyBears · Post by **BigSkyBears** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:30 pm

EWURanger wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Wasnt it the Portland State game they got robbed of?
I thought it was UND but maybe you are right.

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Yeah, it was PSU. They called back a game winning TD for a holding call. Two days later Fullerton goes to the media and says it was the wrong call. We did play better towards the end of the season and we have a bunch of new players and coaches. We shall see...

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:57 pm

Green Laser wrote:
CPAlum wrote:

Yep....baseball and especially soccer are a bigger deal at Poly than folks from other schools understand. For Cal Poly to leave the BWC and their rivalry with UCSB is almost a non-starter. The BSC/BWC membership is a really sweet deal for Cal Poly.
When Boise, Nevada and Idaho left the Big Sky the Conference chose Sac State, Portland and Northridge as replacements. The BSC wanted to expand into the west coast and locate teams in major media markets for recruiting and marketing. I recall Poly being in consideration and the conference touring the campus but a invitation was not extended in favor of the other three. davis at the time was still d2 so they were not in consideration.
I am glad that the BSC finally allowed Poly and davis in even as "Part Skyers" it will be good to have all the California schools in the same conference again, even if it is only for football.

Portland State was DII before they moved to the Big Sky in 1996. We were DI until 1981, then moved back down to DII and the Great Western Athletic Conference until getting the Big Sky invite.

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:06 pm

I am not buying the idea that Portland State is 4th. We need to replace both Kavanaugh and McCaffrey and while we have possibilities, nothing is certain right now. Also going to North Dakota in week 2 scares the hell out of me.

cats2506 · Post by **cats2506** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:43 pm

JALMOND wrote:I am not buying the idea that Portland State is 4th. We need to replace both Kavanaugh and McCaffrey and while we have possibilities, nothing is certain right now. Also going to North Dakota in week 2 scares the hell out of me.

I think more than anything else its a show of how much respect everyone has for Burton.

In my view PSU is a scary team with him at the helm

JALMOND · Post by **JALMOND** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:20 pm

cats2506 wrote:
JALMOND wrote:I am not buying the idea that Portland State is 4th. We need to replace both Kavanaugh and McCaffrey and while we have possibilities, nothing is certain right now. Also going to North Dakota in week 2 scares the hell out of me.
I think more than anything else its a show of how much respect everyone has for Burton.

In my view PSU is a scary team with him at the helm

Appreciate you pointing that out. Respect is one thing, but it won't win many conference games. History has shown how difficult it is to win in the conference with a new QB at the helm.

CaseyOrourke · Post by **CaseyOrourke** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:06 am

PSU's QB position may be up for grabs, But McCaffrey has a good replacement in Maryland transfer D J Adams. But from what I've read JC transfer QB Colin Ramirez is proving is adapting quite well to the Pistol offense. I will be happy to see an improvement on last years 7-4 season

BigSkyBears · Post by **BigSkyBears** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:08 pm

I'm picking PSU to get into the playoffs. Your guy, Burton knows how to recruit.

Post by **EWURanger** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:16 pm

Casey, who's the Leg in your picture?

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Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:59 pm

JALMOND wrote:
cats2506 wrote:
I think more than anything else its a show of how much respect everyone has for Burton.

In my view PSU is a scary team with him at the helm
Appreciate you pointing that out. Respect is one thing, but it won't win many conference games. History has shown how difficult it is to win in the conference with a new QB at the helm.

Not recent history:
2010: Bo Levi, DeNarius McGhee
2011: Jordan Johnson
2012: Kyle Padron

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:20 pm

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Appreciate you pointing that out. Respect is one thing, but it won't win many conference games. History has shown how difficult it is to win in the conference with a new QB at the helm.
Not recent history:
2010: Bo Levi, DeNarius McGhee
2011: Jordan Johnson
2012: Kyle Padron

2009 - Andrew Selle
2006 - Josh Swogger
2003 - Craig Ochs & Jason Murietta (3-way tie along with MSU)
2001 - John Edwards
1999 - Drew Miller
1996 - Brian Ah Yat
1993 - Dave Dickenson

So, that disproves that notion to some extent.

I still don't think PSU will contend for the title, though.

TheHerd · Post by **TheHerd** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:07 am

CPAlum wrote:
Herky wrote:
The Great West was the WORST football conference in the country hands down. Didnt say all the programs were crappy or that any were crappy for that matter, so calm down young lady.

And Poly and the farm extension getting in with a football only membership is complete and utter BS. You p*****s couldnt handle being an all-sports member so .

Got it.....so all the teams in the conference are good but the conference sucks....makes perfect sense to me know. I am thankful that the Big Sky extended the football only invite and I have no interest is bashing the Big Sky Oly sports but its pretty easy to see that the Big West is a far better Oly sport conference for Cal Poly and Davis...and probably Sac St as well if they'd let you in.

On a related topic, where will you guys be playing baseball in 2014? Right...that is what I thought.

I find it hilarious that a Sac. St. fan would even attempt to talk smack. When is the last time they even won the BSC? or have they ever?

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