Deportations of Illegal Aliens Thread

[Caribbean Hen]

Scattering like cockroaches!

Cockroaches?

Yes…dehumanizing and scapegoating a group of people is one the first steps in the playbook.

Like deplorables ?

[kalm]

Cockroaches?

Yes…dehumanizing and scapegoating a group of people is one the first steps in the playbook.

Like deplorables ?

No. Deplorable isn’t dehumanizing. It’s a description of human behavior. While being a dumb thing to say as a candidate back then, it ended up being honest and accurate.

[BDKJMU]

The family of an 82-year-old Chilean national feared he was dead for weeks before discovering that he had been detained by ICE after he misplaced his green card, according to a report.

Relatives last saw Luis Leon, who lives in Allentown, Pennsylvania, on June 20, when he and his wife visited the Philadelphia immigration office to replace his lost green card, The Morning Call first reported.

There, officers handcuffed him and took him away without explanation, relatives told the outlet. His family was left scrambling, contacting immigration offices, hospitals and even a morgue for more information on Leon’s whereabouts.

Then, on July 9, Leon’s wife received a call that seemed to confirm the family’s worst fears; the caller claimed the 82-year-old had died.

Thankfully, this week, his family members learned that Leon had been moved from a detention facility in Minnesota to Guatemala. He’s now in a hospital in Guatemala City, the outlet reported. The Independent has reached out to ICE for more information.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ice-secretly ... 27150.html

This same UK ‘The Independent’ link to this Hoax story from the Allentown, PA outlet has already been covered in the other thread. There’s a reason that the MSM isn’t all over this and has quietly dropped it.

ICE secretly deported Pennsylvania grandfather, 82, after he lost his Green Card

Relatives last saw Luis Leon, who lives in Allentown, Pennsylvania, on June 20, when he and his wife visited the Philadelphia immigration office to replace his lost green card, The Morning Call first reported.

There, officers handcuffed him and took him away without explanation, relatives told the outlet. His family was left scrambling, contacting immigration offices, hospitals and even a morgue for more information on Leon’s whereabouts.

Then, on July 9, Leon’s wife received a call that seemed to confirm the family’s worst fears; the caller claimed the 82-year-old had died.

Thankfully, this week, his family members learned that Leon had been moved from a detention facility in Minnesota to Guatemala. He’s now in a hospital in Guatemala City, the outlet reported.
...
Leon was granted political asylum in 1987 after surviving Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet’s regime, the outlet reported. He has a clean record — and hasn’t even been given so much as a parking ticket, the family claimed.

Sounds like QUNI88 posting some FAKE NEWS.

According to family members, who are the entirety of the sourcing on this, Luis Leon and his wife were allegedly arrested by ICE while the former was trying to replace his green card. Both were taken to a detention facility "without explanation." After 10 hours, the wife was released, but Leon, who gained asylum in 1987, was kept in custody. That's where the first oddity in this story emerges. Family members talking to the press first claimed he had died in custody. Now, though, they are saying he is at a hospital in Guatemala….

….First and foremost, was Luis Leon ever even arrested by ICE? As of now, his name does not appear in any of their databases, which would be unusual. Secondly, if he was, was his immigration status as in order as the family is saying? As far as I can tell, no one has really dug into that yet, so major questions remain. Was his green card valid? Was there another extenuating circumstance at play? We simply don't know at this point, despite the enthusiasm of the press to speak with such certainty about the situation.

With that said, the biggest twist in this story took place on Sunday. Guatemalan authorities put out a statement denying that Luis Leon entered their country, saying no one of his name or age range matches any entries. Further, they confirmed no person of Chilean nationality has been deported to Guatemala either.

So, is he in Guatemala or not? There's no evidence to say he is, and you'd think the authorities there would have no problem locating him if he had been officially deported there and had been put in a hospital. Deportation flights are highly standardized. It's not like ICE just flies deportees in unannounced and dumps them on the street. They are processed by the receiving government.

Further, Luis Leon's granddaughter told the press he's in Guatemala recovering from pneumonia, but that he has "no plans" to return to the United States. Wait, what? So he's from Chile and has been in America legally for nearly 40 years, but he's just going to stay in Guatemala? That's a little too convenient, given the seriousness of the accusation.

Lastly, a lot of the details provided by the family do not add up. Nicolette Glazer, an immigration lawyer, explained in a recent social media thread how many of their claims are factually incorrect. It's too much to copy and paste here, but click below and read through all the inconsistencies she notes regarding how the immigration system actually works…..

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/21 ... r-n2191911

[Caribbean Hen]

Like deplorables ?

No. Deplorable isn’t dehumanizing. It’s a description of human behavior. While being a dumb thing to say as a candidate back then, it ended up being honest and accurate.

How was her elitist comment honest and accurate?

[kalm]

No. Deplorable isn’t dehumanizing. It’s a description of human behavior. While being a dumb thing to say as a candidate back then, it ended up being honest and accurate.

How was her elitist comment honest and accurate?

We’ve had 10 years of MAGA behavior to confirm.

[UNI88]

Like deplorables ?

No. Deplorable isn’t dehumanizing. It’s a description of human behavior. While being a dumb thing to say as a candidate back then, it ended up being honest and accurate.

Yes, deplorable is dehumanizing and it too was wrong.

[BDKJMU]

Scattering like cockroaches!

Cockroaches?

Yes…dehumanizing and scapegoating a group of people is one the first steps in the playbook.

Like your side did (and still does) to Trump voters, calling them every ‘ist’ and ‘phone’ name in the book
-fascist
-NAZI
-racist
-sexist
-misogynist
-homophobe
-transphobe
-xenophobe
-islamaphobe
-deplorable
-white insert pejorative here
-cultists
and what did I leave off?

[kalm]

No. Deplorable isn’t dehumanizing. It’s a description of human behavior. While being a dumb thing to say as a candidate back then, it ended up being honest and accurate.

Yes, deplorable is dehumanizing and it too was wrong.

I’ll grant you on the wrong but I’m sorry it’s not. She was describing human behavior. Calling immigrants cockroaches or Jews vermin as the Nazis did is different. There are all sorts of remedies for deplorable behavior. The clear remedy for cockroaches and vermin enables a much darker path.

[UNI88]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ice-secretly ... 27150.html

This same UK ‘The Independent’ link to this Hoax story from the Allentown, PA outlet has already been covered in the other thread. There’s a reason that the MSM isn’t all over this and has quietly dropped it.

ICE secretly deported Pennsylvania grandfather, 82, after he lost his Green Card

Sounds like QUNI88 posting some FAKE NEWS.

According to family members, who are the entirety of the sourcing on this, Luis Leon and his wife were allegedly arrested by ICE while the former was trying to replace his green card. Both were taken to a detention facility "without explanation." After 10 hours, the wife was released, but Leon, who gained asylum in 1987, was kept in custody. That's where the first oddity in this story emerges. Family members talking to the press first claimed he had died in custody. Now, though, they are saying he is at a hospital in Guatemala….

….First and foremost, was Luis Leon ever even arrested by ICE? As of now, his name does not appear in any of their databases, which would be unusual. Secondly, if he was, was his immigration status as in order as the family is saying? As far as I can tell, no one has really dug into that yet, so major questions remain. Was his green card valid? Was there another extenuating circumstance at play? We simply don't know at this point, despite the enthusiasm of the press to speak with such certainty about the situation.

With that said, the biggest twist in this story took place on Sunday. Guatemalan authorities put out a statement denying that Luis Leon entered their country, saying no one of his name or age range matches any entries. Further, they confirmed no person of Chilean nationality has been deported to Guatemala either.

So, is he in Guatemala or not? There's no evidence to say he is, and you'd think the authorities there would have no problem locating him if he had been officially deported there and had been put in a hospital. Deportation flights are highly standardized. It's not like ICE just flies deportees in unannounced and dumps them on the street. They are processed by the receiving government.

Further, Luis Leon's granddaughter told the press he's in Guatemala recovering from pneumonia, but that he has "no plans" to return to the United States. Wait, what? So he's from Chile and has been in America legally for nearly 40 years, but he's just going to stay in Guatemala? That's a little too convenient, given the seriousness of the accusation.

Lastly, a lot of the details provided by the family do not add up. Nicolette Glazer, an immigration lawyer, explained in a recent social media thread how many of their claims are factually incorrect. It's too much to copy and paste here, but click below and read through all the inconsistencies she notes regarding how the immigration system actually works…..

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/21 ... r-n2191911

So Leon's story is about as accurate as DOGE's numbers on government savings. Sorry. We all get some things wrong. Some of us are man enough to admit to admit it.

[UNI88]

Yes, deplorable is dehumanizing and it too was wrong.

I’ll grant you on the wrong but I’m sorry it’s not. She was describing human behavior. Calling immigrants cockroaches or Jews vermin as the Nazis did is different. There are all sorts of remedies for deplorable behavior. The clear remedy for cockroaches and vermin enables a much darker path.

She was calling a group of people deplorables. She was describing them not just their behavior.

[Caribbean Hen]

How was her elitist comment honest and accurate?

We’ve had 10 years of MAGA behavior to confirm.

Orchestrated by Obama

[kalm]

I’ll grant you on the wrong but I’m sorry it’s not. She was describing human behavior. Calling immigrants cockroaches or Jews vermin as the Nazis did is different. There are all sorts of remedies for deplorable behavior. The clear remedy for cockroaches and vermin enables a much darker path.

She was calling a group of people deplorables. She was describing them not just their behavior.

You can still describe behavior by group without dehumanizing. Was she describing the entire right? Did you think she was suggesting they be rounded up or was she just criticizing them. Do you step on a deplorable and squash it like it a cockroach? Do you think MAGA has not proven her right?

There’s a difference.

[kalm]

We’ve had 10 years of MAGA behavior to confirm.

Orchestrated by Obama

Hey…I’m reading the same bullshit vector of attack to distract from Trump being a pedo!

[UNI88]

We’ve had 10 years of MAGA behavior to confirm.

Orchestrated by Obama

Cop out, avoidance of responsibility, blame someone else, it’s not my fault, etc. are not the MO of alpha males.

Thank you for continuing to prove that MAQA yahoos are beta cucks.


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[kalm]

[Caribbean Hen]

Orchestrated by Obama

Cop out, avoidance of responsibility, blame someone else, it’s not my fault, etc. are not the MO of alpha males.

Thank you for continuing to prove that MAQA yahoos are beta cucks.


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Nooo

We have evidence of Obama and his cast of holier than thou assholes and they were treasonous ….

[UNI88]

Cop out, avoidance of responsibility, blame someone else, it’s not my fault, etc. are not the MO of alpha males.

Thank you for continuing to prove that MAQA yahoos are beta cucks.

Nooo

We have evidence of Obama and his cast of holier than thou assholes and they were treasonous ….

Pot meet kettle.

[BDKJMU]

She was calling a group of people deplorables. She was describing them not just their behavior.

You can still describe behavior by group without dehumanizing. Was she describing the entire right? Did you think she was suggesting they be rounded up or was she just criticizing them. Do you step on a deplorable and squash it like it a cockroach? Do you think MAGA has not proven her right?

There’s a difference.

That’s what much of the left wanted to do during Covid to people who didn’t get the Covid shot.

[Caribbean Hen]

Nooo

We have evidence of Obama and his cast of holier than thou assholes and they were treasonous ….

Pot meet kettle.

Lame JoJo undermined himself

no treasonous plot necessary

[kalm]

You can still describe behavior by group without dehumanizing. Was she describing the entire right? Did you think she was suggesting they be rounded up or was she just criticizing them. Do you step on a deplorable and squash it like it a cockroach? Do you think MAGA has not proven her right?

There’s a difference.

That’s what much of the left wanted to do during Covid to people who didn’t get the Covid shot.

No one wanted that. Just stay home and avoid getting other people sick.

[Caribbean Hen]

That’s what much of the left wanted to do during Covid to people who didn’t get the Covid shot.

No one wanted that. Just stay home and avoid getting other people sick.

Unless you were going to a protest to burn cities, then you were totally justified in shes leaving home bye bye

[BDKJMU]

That’s what much of the left wanted to do during Covid to people who didn’t get the Covid shot.

No one wanted that. Just stay home and avoid getting other people sick.

…. Fifty-nine percent of Democrats who took the poll were in support of a theoretical government policy which would confine those who have not been vaccinated to their own homes unless it was an emergency. Overall, sixty-one percent of all respondents were against the policy.

Almost half of Democrats who voted in the poll think state and federal governments should be allowed to either fine or imprison those who publicly question COVID-19 vaccine efficacy.

Forty-eight percent of Democrats taking the poll were in support of the criminal punishment of vaccine critics, whether the criticism appeared on television, radio, or even on social media. Overall, only twenty-seven percent of all respondents were in support of the punishment.

The poll also reportedly says it answers just how far Democrats are willing to go to punish those refusing to get the vaccine. Forty-five percent of Democrats who took the poll were in favor of the government forcing people who refuse the vaccine to live in designated facilities or locations. Twenty-nine percent of Democrats who took the poll reportedly say they would be in support of parents who are against getting vaccinated losing custody of their children.

Two-thirds of Democrat respondents to the poll were in support of the government using digital devices to track the unvaccinated to ensure they socially distance and remain properly quarantined.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/half ... -poll-says

[GannonFan]

No one wanted that. Just stay home and avoid getting other people sick.

…. Fifty-nine percent of Democrats who took the poll were in support of a theoretical government policy which would confine those who have not been vaccinated to their own homes unless it was an emergency. Overall, sixty-one percent of all respondents were against the policy.

Almost half of Democrats who voted in the poll think state and federal governments should be allowed to either fine or imprison those who publicly question COVID-19 vaccine efficacy.

Forty-eight percent of Democrats taking the poll were in support of the criminal punishment of vaccine critics, whether the criticism appeared on television, radio, or even on social media. Overall, only twenty-seven percent of all respondents were in support of the punishment.

The poll also reportedly says it answers just how far Democrats are willing to go to punish those refusing to get the vaccine. Forty-five percent of Democrats who took the poll were in favor of the government forcing people who refuse the vaccine to live in designated facilities or locations. Twenty-nine percent of Democrats who took the poll reportedly say they would be in support of parents who are against getting vaccinated losing custody of their children.

Two-thirds of Democrat respondents to the poll were in support of the government using digital devices to track the unvaccinated to ensure they socially distance and remain properly quarantined.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/half ... -poll-says

Indeed, COVID was not a great moment for our country - leadership, at all levels, failed miserably.

[BDKJMU]

This deputy is going to have plenty of financial backing for a counter lawsuit against the Colorado AG.

[kalm]

No one wanted that. Just stay home and avoid getting other people sick.

Unless you were going to a protest to burn cities, then you were totally justified in shes leaving home bye bye

Nope. That was irresponsible and harmful too.