Separation is another one of your lies. You've never seen the document asking for autonomy have you? Of course you haven't. They simply asked to be left alone on the Eastern border with their long time neighbors and family.
Autonomy. Far different than being a Separatist. Do you now understand why they are falsely labeled as such? Makes them sound like they deserve Naziesque mercenaries sicced on them. You know, the shit you support.
Proof the US overthrew? Jesus Christ. Do you not understand why I was giving CID shit about Nuland? Leaked telephone call of her saying "Fuck the EU" in regard to who was going to replace the pro Russian leader. The whole world agrees with the US overthrowing the leader.
The word самостоятельность has a range of meanings. However, the actual political outcome sought and achieved by the DPR/LPR was de facto separation and Russian alignment, regardless of the referendum wording. Actions speak louder than words.
Nuland expressed a preference for Yatsenyuk. That's evidence of US influence, which is real and worth acknowledging. It is not evidence of the US orchestrating the removal of Yanukovych.
The real grievances of russian speakers don't justify armed separatism, and they certainly doesn't retroactively justify Russia's 2022 full-scale invasion,
Provide links if you have actual proof/evidence of your allegations rather than rumors and innuendo.
Separation is another one of your lies. You've never seen the document asking for autonomy have you? Of course you haven't. They simply asked to be left alone on the Eastern border with their long time neighbors and family.
Autonomy. Far different than being a Separatist. Do you now understand why they are falsely labeled as such? Makes them sound like they deserve Naziesque mercenaries sicced on them. You know, the shit you support.
Proof the US overthrew? Jesus Christ. Do you not understand why I was giving CID shit about Nuland? Leaked telephone call of her saying "Fuck the EU" in regard to who was going to replace the pro Russian leader. The whole world agrees with the US overthrowing the leader.
The word самостоятельность has a range of meanings. However, the actual political outcome sought and achieved by the DPR/LPR was de facto separation and Russian alignment, regardless of the referendum wording. Actions speak louder than words.
Nuland expressed a preference for Yatsenyuk. That's evidence of US influence, which is real and worth acknowledging. It is not evidence of the US orchestrating the removal of Yanukovych.
The real grievances of russian speakers don't justify armed separatism, and they certainly doesn't retroactively justify Russia's 2022 full-scale invasion,
Provide links if you have actual proof/evidence of your allegations rather than rumors and innuendo.
Can't even defend yourself. You're throwing AI shit on the wall because you have no clue what you are saying and therefore ask shit prompts.
You list this word самостоятельность which does not mean separatism and then you state "armed separatism". Shit prompt. Copy paste laziness.
Lazy bastard flag and flag for not knowing how AI works.
UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 8:15 pm
The word самостоятельность has a range of meanings. However, the actual political outcome sought and achieved by the DPR/LPR was de facto separation and Russian alignment, regardless of the referendum wording. Actions speak louder than words.
Nuland expressed a preference for Yatsenyuk. That's evidence of US influence, which is real and worth acknowledging. It is not evidence of the US orchestrating the removal of Yanukovych.
The real grievances of russian speakers don't justify armed separatism, and they certainly doesn't retroactively justify Russia's 2022 full-scale invasion,
Provide links if you have actual proof/evidence of your allegations rather than rumors and innuendo.
Can't even defend yourself. You're throwing AI shit on the wall because you have no clue what you are saying and therefore ask shit prompts.
You list this word самостоятельность which does not mean separatism and then you state "armed separatism". Shit prompt. Copy paste laziness.
Lazy bastard flag and flag for not knowing how AI works.
Самостоятельность (samostoyatel'nost') refers to independence, self-reliance, self-sufficiency, or autonomy.
Actions speak louder than words.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
Thank you for your attention to this matter - UNI88
SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 3:00 pmLet's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.
Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.
Your timeline is reversed here.
Yanukovych and the pro Russian government were in power during the Maidan Massacre and the protestors who were killed were pro Western. The snipers who shot the protestors fled to Russia for sanctuary.
Pretty incredible how you try to turn this around.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 3:00 pmLet's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.
Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.
Your timeline is reversed here.
Yanukovych and the pro Russian government were in power during the Maidan Massacre and the protestors who were killed were pro Western. The snipers who shot the protestors fled to Russia for sanctuary.
Pretty incredible how you try to turn this around.
No imagination is necessary to see SG's "love for Vladimir and Iran that reeks from his keyboard every day".
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
Thank you for your attention to this matter - UNI88
SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 3:00 pmLet's walk down history lane. The US overthrew the pro Russian government. After that, the pro Ukrainian government started taking actions against Russian speaking population by removing Russian as an official language. Once again, if the US did this with Spanish, there wouldn't be a fainting couch big enough for you.
Then, during protests, the Kiev government green lighted the slaughter known as the Maidan Massacre (Kyiv, Feb 18-20, 2014). In addition, there were other killings like in Odessa by Ukrainian government direction.
Your timeline is reversed here.
Yanukovych and the pro Russian government were in power during the Maidan Massacre and the protestors who were killed were pro Western. The snipers who shot the protestors fled to Russia for sanctuary.
Pretty incredible how you try to turn this around.
No shit. Yanukovych was a Russian puppet. The thing MAGA accuses Zalenskyy of.
Paul Manafort was somewhere in this mix as well. Then Rudy.
And Donbass was a Russian proxy war and continuation of Crimea. The Russians are the aggressor. Full stop.
