The Ukraine Crisis

[AZGrizFan]

Trump was 100% right. F’ing krauts.

Damn Krauts.
Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
https://www.foxnews.com/world/europe-cl ... rmany-wary

Well that video explains why they’re wary. 70% dependent on Russian gas/oil. SWIFT is the system through which those shipments are paid. If they can’t pay Russia, the shipments stop, and Germans freeze to death.

Trump may be right, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the middle of winter Germany at this point doesn’t have much of a choice.

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[BDKJMU]

Damn Krauts.
Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
https://www.foxnews.com/world/europe-cl ... rmany-wary

Well that video explains why they’re wary. 70% dependent on Russian gas/oil. SWIFT is the system through which those shipments are paid. If they can’t pay Russia, the shipments stop, and Germans freeze to death.

Trump may be right, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the middle of winter Germany at this point doesn’t have much of a choice.

Well, Germany’s actions caused them to become dependent on Russia because they killed their own coal and nuclear, and they’ve found out renewables doesn’t cut it..

[LeadBolt]

Damn Krauts.
Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
https://www.foxnews.com/world/europe-cl ... rmany-wary

Well that video explains why they’re wary. 70% dependent on Russian gas/oil. SWIFT is the system through which those shipments are paid. If they can’t pay Russia, the shipments stop, and Germans freeze to death.

Trump may be right, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the middle of winter Germany at this point doesn’t have much of a choice.

European, especially German energy policy is a disaster. Had they not shut down the nuclear plants they would not be so vulnerable.

Had Biden not done everything he could to shut down US production and pipelines, we could step in.

Woke energy policy is a disaster. Rushing to make a deal with Iran to bring their production back into the market place only adds to the shut show.


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[AZGrizFan]

Well that video explains why they’re wary. 70% dependent on Russian gas/oil. SWIFT is the system through which those shipments are paid. If they can’t pay Russia, the shipments stop, and Germans freeze to death.

Trump may be right, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the middle of winter Germany at this point doesn’t have much of a choice.

Well, Germany’s actions caused them to become dependent on Russia because they killed their own coal and nuclear, and they’ve found out renewables doesn’t cut it..

Well of course their actions did it. But they can’t just shut the power off in solidarity. It’s not like there’s an immediate option for them to easily switch to.

[AZGrizFan]

Well that video explains why they’re wary. 70% dependent on Russian gas/oil. SWIFT is the system through which those shipments are paid. If they can’t pay Russia, the shipments stop, and Germans freeze to death.

Trump may be right, but it doesn’t change the fact that in the middle of winter Germany at this point doesn’t have much of a choice.

European, especially German energy policy is a disaster. Had they not shut down the nuclear plants they would not be so vulnerable.

Had Biden not done everything he could to shut down US production and pipelines, we could step in.

Woke energy policy is a disaster. Rushing to make a deal with Iran to bring their production back into the market place only adds to the shut show.


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Which was basically Trump’s point in the initial tweet posted. But again, it’s not like they can just swap over to an alternate source…

[AZGrizFan]

Man….what a way to go. Probably a bunch of Russian 18-year old conscripts with no dog in the fight.

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[kalm]

European, especially German energy policy is a disaster. Had they not shut down the nuclear plants they would not be so vulnerable.

Had Biden not done everything he could to shut down US production and pipelines, we could step in.

Woke energy policy is a disaster. Rushing to make a deal with Iran to bring their production back into the market place only adds to the shut show.


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Which was basically Trump’s point in the initial tweet posted. But again, it’s not like they can just swap over to an alternate source…

Trump’s point was spot on. What actions did he take?

[89Hen]

I think Putin might be a bigger reason why he's invading.

I'm hoping you're just joking here.

[89Hen]

I'm too lazy to go back through this thread, has anyone posted the Tulsi clip where she talks about how Ukraine is not what they're portrayed to be here in this country? If what she says is true, it only goes to show how corrupt our media is.

[SDHornet]

Badass if true.

That and the Ukes telling the Russian warship to "Go fuck yourselves."

Also, apparently the President is on the streets ready to fight alongside civilians. If true, then impressive. I wouldn't expect any POTUS or legislator in the last 30-40 years to have the balls to do that.

Turns out a lot of this is just propaganda. GHost of kyiv is fake, old photos of the Ukraninan president inthe field in gear. "Go fuck yourself" never happened as well.

Crazy seeing propaganda ops in real time.

But hey Kazinger pushing the Sam Hyde meme though.

[89Hen]

Apparently these people read 'cocktail party' and just showed up.

[SDHornet]

ThE aDuLtS aRe In ChArGe

@ anyone that voted for this retard. You own this bloodshed too.

[SDHornet]

As of right now, yes. There was a story or two earlier about looking at his fathers company.

Could be the end of Haas F1 if they lose Uralkali. It's hard to keep going when you suck and the only reason a company will sponsor you is because the owner has a fetish that his son can drive an F1 car.

Yep. Haas was on borrowed time after the whole Rich Energy fiasco.

[SDHornet]

I think it all depends on your political lens. If you're moderate in any way, you might say he was just an idiot who by inaction and praise emboldened Putin.

The below pretty much sums up my opinion on the varying sides and their views:

Hard Right - Trump was the best thing since slice bread and he's the hero we need! MAGA! See BDK for reference.
Hard Left - TRUMP WAS AWFUL AND A PUPPET! PUTINS' HAND IS STILL UP HIS BUTT! #IMPEACH45 .See DBack for reference
Moderates - Trump was an idiot and a known con man. He did some good, some bad. He should've kept his mouth shut and not surrounded himself with sycophant's. Putin probably didn't know what to make of him b/c he was sucking up to dictators like himself and Kim Jong, bashing NATO and throwing out wild conspiracies about everything from windmill cancer to bleach in your veins. See Uni88, Gannon and myself for reference.

Trump: right about wiretapping in Trump Tower. Right about Russiagate. Right about the border and securing the border. Right about NATO needing to spend more on defense. Right about the sanctions on the Russian pipeline. Right about European countries needing to get off the Russian oil teet…

For an idiot, he sure has ended up being right about a lot of shit…as opposed to the current octagenarian in the White House who is a smooth O-fer on being right about literally anything.

[SDHornet]

Loving the "But Trump! defense.

Oh yeah, you have Ukrainian blood on your hands for voting for Biden. That's how that works, right?

You'd have to ask SD - he's the one running around with that trope. I'm actually saying the years of sanctioning, going back before Trump, have all been failures.


I think CID would agree with me - our foreign policy towards Russia has been flawed from the beginning.

Yes. Because that trope is correct. Biden voters own the Afghan debacle and now this Ukrainian invasion. Own that shit losers.

[AZGrizFan]

Which was basically Trump’s point in the initial tweet posted. But again, it’s not like they can just swap over to an alternate source…

Trump’s point was spot on. What actions did he take?

The only action he COULD take. use the threat of NATO and our money to get them to change their ways. Didn’t work. And here we are.

[kalm]

I'm too lazy to go back through this thread, has anyone posted the Tulsi clip where she talks about how Ukraine is not what they're portrayed to be here in this country? If what she says is true, it only goes to show how corrupt our media is.

Tulsi, the socialist? That Tulsi?

[kalm]

That and the Ukes telling the Russian warship to "Go fuck yourselves."

Also, apparently the President is on the streets ready to fight alongside civilians. If true, then impressive. I wouldn't expect any POTUS or legislator in the last 30-40 years to have the balls to do that.

Turns out a lot of this is just propaganda. GHost of kyiv is fake, old photos of the Ukraninan president inthe field in gear. "Go fuck yourself" never happened as well.

Crazy seeing propaganda ops in real time.

But hey Kazinger pushing the Sam Hyde meme though.

Yep. Fog of war.

Where did you find out it’s all a hoax?

[AZGrizFan]

I'm too lazy to go back through this thread, has anyone posted the Tulsi clip where she talks about how Ukraine is not what they're portrayed to be here in this country? If what she says is true, it only goes to show how corrupt our media is.

Tulsi, the socialist? That Tulsi?

I saw it….if it’s true (and we’ll never know with the way media operates), it’s pretty damning.

[SDHornet]

Oh yeah.. those Russian sanctions sure worked. Trump was wrong about a rigged 2020 election. Wrong about COVID-19 just going away. Wrong about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Wrong about Russian sponsored SolarWinds hack that occurred on his watch. Wrong about Ukraine hacking out elections.


He was wrong and right about many things but let's not canonize the man just yet.

He was wrong about many things. Biden’s administration has been wrong about literally EVERYTHING. Every single thing Biden’s administration does is reflexive in nature. There appears to be ZERO pre-planning, scenario planning, etc., etc. to actually BE PREPARED for cases just like this. How in the fuck does Biden, on one hand, stand before the American people yesterday and say “we’ve been saying for weeks that this invasion was coming” but we have taken exactly ZERO steps to help beef up Ukraine’s military defense capabilities to help thwart the attack? And now they’re literally BEGGING for stuff that we and other should have been sending weeks, if not months ago.

Every single thing that happens during this administration seems to be a surprise. He’s way, way way more worried about what the skin color is of his latest SC nominee than he is about evacuating Americans in Afghanistan or helping to get countries like Ukraine better prepared for something he has admitted they knew was coming for weeks (just like the eventual evacuation date of Afghanistan).

They are clueless, and appear even more clueless at every crises.

His admin are just West Wing larpers. Funnies tweet I saw was something to effect of "Biden admin furiously looking for the 'Russia invades Ukraine' West Wing episode to know what to do."

[SDHornet]

how about withholding congressionally authorized military aid to Ukraine unless zelenskyy dug up dirt on biden.

are we still thinking that was a-ok?

Look what crawled out from under a rock with Ukrainegate.

Cut jelly some slack. He has been schilling for 4+ years a failed narrative to oust a supposed "Putin Puppet", only to have the guy he voted for put his direct family in harms way due to his weak/failed foreign policy. Some how jelly has to internalize that and cope with the fact that all this that was supposed to happen under Orange Man, happened under Orange Man's replacement. Ouch.