ManRam in Sac

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Tue May 15, 2012 6:45 pm

Disgraced slugger Manny Ramirez will join the Sacramento RiverCats this week to play ten games during his 50-game PED suspension. He will re-join Oakland 30 MAY, coincidentally his 40th birthday.

I say cut the dude!

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/05/ ... iver-cats/

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:47 am

Cut him for what? He's a part time DH at best.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:04 am

I don't like DH's, especially DH's who are proven to have taken PEDs. What good are PEDs for a DH anyway? They don't do anything except hit. Other than that guy who took a DH-P turn a week or so ago....

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:21 am

SuperHornet wrote:I don't like DH's, especially DH's who are proven to have taken PEDs. What good are PEDs for a DH anyway? They don't do anything except hit. Other than that guy who took a DH-P turn a week or so ago....

He served his suspension. Guy has to earn a living. I thought you would be more forgiving.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:28 am

Maybe if he were a F/T player and if he had some remorse.

I STILL want to get rid of the DH rule. Or at least modify it to read like the college softball DP rule, which allows for the DP to replace whatever position you want it to. There is no rational reason why the AL should mandate that if one uses the DH, he HAS to be used in place of the pitcher. If you've just traded with the NL for a pitcher who's hitting .330, there is no reason why he should have to sit so your .220-hitting shortstop can take his whacks.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:31 am

Holy shit...SH just said ManRam.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:35 am

SuperHornet wrote:Maybe if he were a F/T player and if he had some remorse.

I STILL want to get rid of the DH rule. Or at least modify it to read like the college softball DP rule, which allows for the DP to replace whatever position you want it to. There is no rational reason why the AL should mandate that if one uses the DH, he HAS to be used in place of the pitcher. If you've just traded with the NL for a pitcher who's hitting .330, there is no reason why he should have to sit so your .220-hitting shortstop can take his whacks.

NCAA softball rules mention double penetration? I may have to tune in and check it out.

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:36 am

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:36 am

I wonder if he's any relation to:

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SunCoastBlueHen · Post by **SunCoastBlueHen** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:38 am

SuperHornet wrote:What good are PEDs for a DH anyway? They don't do anything except hit. Other than that guy who took a DH-P turn a week or so ago....

Dude, are you of the opinion that PEDs can only enhance performance in the field?

SunCoastBlueHen · Post by **SunCoastBlueHen** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:40 am

Grizalltheway wrote:Holy shit...SH just said ManRam.

I thought from the title of the thread that SH might be sharing a fantasy with us.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:10 am

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:What good are PEDs for a DH anyway? They don't do anything except hit. Other than that guy who took a DH-P turn a week or so ago....
Dude, are you of the opinion that PEDs can only enhance performance in the field?

No. What I'm saying is that homers ALONE are meaningless, and therefore DHs are meaningless. As is sitting and waiting for them (a la Bruce Bochy). I like complete players (like Willie Mays and Rickey Henderson) who could hit, run, AND field a position. If ALL you have is a bat (especially if it is a questionable bat like ManRam late in his career, you are not a candidate for MY team, PEDs or no PEDs.

SunCoastBlueHen · Post by **SunCoastBlueHen** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:38 am

SuperHornet wrote:
SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
Dude, are you of the opinion that PEDs can only enhance performance in the field?
No. What I'm saying is that homers ALONE are meaningless, and therefore DHs are meaningless. As is sitting and waiting for them (a la Bruce Bochy). I like complete players (like Willie Mays and Rickey Henderson) who could hit, run, AND field a position. If ALL you have is a bat (especially if it is a questionable bat like ManRam late in his career, you are not a candidate for MY team, PEDs or no PEDs.

Well, I have learned that what is meaningful and meaningless to you can sometimes sway a little bit from the general consensus.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 pm

What I'm saying is that homers ALONE are meaningless, and therefore DHs are meaningless.

David Ortiz is meaningless?

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:54 pm

Seahawks08 wrote:
What I'm saying is that homers ALONE are meaningless, and therefore DHs are meaningless.

David Ortiz is meaningless?

As a baseball player, if he does nothing but DH, then he is meaningless, IMO.

As a person, well, that's a different story.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Thu May 17, 2012 1:01 am

As a baseball player, if he does nothing but DH, then he is meaningless, IMO.

He has a total WAR of 35.2 currently. And this is with DHing most of his career. Gong with active players, that places him between Jimmy Rollins and David Wright. I would hardly call that meaningless.

Post by **andy7171** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:07 am

Guys. You are arguing with SuperHornet. He worships Danny White. Danny Fucking White!

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu May 17, 2012 6:16 am

I thought was about SH coming out of the closet. Dangit. SH, why are you going all D1b on Players that use performance drugs?

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am

What the heck is WAR?!?

Bringing up stats that nobody has heard of to bolster an argument doesn't help you at all. Especially when you're making comparisons to to a pair of near nobodies.

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu May 17, 2012 9:38 am

SuperHornet wrote:What the heck is WAR?!?

Bringing up stats that nobody has heard of to bolster an argument doesn't help you at all. Especially when you're making comparisons to to a pair of near nobodies.

War is an arm conflict among two conflicting parties.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:48 pm

Ibanez wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:What the heck is WAR?!?

Bringing up stats that nobody has heard of to bolster an argument doesn't help you at all. Especially when you're making comparisons to to a pair of near nobodies.

War is an arm conflict among two conflicting parties.

Yeah, but what is it good for?

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu May 17, 2012 3:53 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: War is an arm conflict among two conflicting parties.
Yeah, but what is it good for?

Nothing.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Thu May 17, 2012 8:43 pm

WAR = Wins Above Replacement. Only the most important stat in all of sports.

Post by **clenz** » Thu May 17, 2012 8:46 pm

If you are a sports fan, especially baseball, and don't know what WAR is you need to stop following sports

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Post by **BlueHen86** » Thu May 17, 2012 8:51 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, but what is it good for?
Nothing.

You can say that again.

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