I told him I thought he was liberal a couple of years ago and he yelled at me.Ivytalk wrote:You are nuts. Or you played games with the poll.GannonFan wrote:Hillary 85%
Rubio 79%
Bernie 79%
Jeb 75%
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Liberal? I'm right down the middle, except for Bernie (who's a loon) those are pretty much the moderate candidates and they come from both sides of the aisle - it's the folks that are 80% one party and less than 50% another party that are one side or the other.ASUG8 wrote:I told him I thought he was liberal a couple of years ago and he yelled at me.Ivytalk wrote: You are nuts. Or you played games with the poll.
Besides, I'm socially liberal (pro same sex marriage, anti-capital punishment) and economically conservative (pro-free trade). I thought that was pretty clear.
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GannonFan wrote:Liberal? I'm right down the middle, except for Bernie (who's a loon) those are pretty much the moderate candidates and they come from both sides of the aisle - it's the folks that are 80% one party and less than 50% another party that are one side or the other.ASUG8 wrote:
I told him I thought he was liberal a couple of years ago and he yelled at me.
Besides, I'm socially liberal (pro same sex marriage, anti-capital punishment) and economically conservative (pro-free trade). I thought that was pretty clear.
I'm OK with gay marriage, pro choice, and indifferent on capital punishment which I guess makes me a bit liberal socially. I just want them to balance their damn checkbook and get people off the government dole (and stop being world police).
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You guys sound like libertarians.
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I want both people AND corporations off the government dole so I guess that eliminates me from being a conservativeASUG8 wrote:GannonFan wrote:
Liberal? I'm right down the middle, except for Bernie (who's a loon) those are pretty much the moderate candidates and they come from both sides of the aisle - it's the folks that are 80% one party and less than 50% another party that are one side or the other.
Besides, I'm socially liberal (pro same sex marriage, anti-capital punishment) and economically conservative (pro-free trade). I thought that was pretty clear.![]()
I'm OK with gay marriage, pro choice, and indifferent on capital punishment which I guess makes me a bit liberal socially. I just want them to balance their damn checkbook and get people off the government dole (and stop being world police).
I want to strengthen border security and restrict immigration.
I like single payer health insurance while maintaining private providers and manufacturers.
I want free college education or skills training.
I like fair trade.
I want the big banks and big Ag broken up.
I want to see financial regulations and criminal laws enforced.
I believe in strong environmental protection.
I believe in competition therefore I strongly support strict anti-trust laws.
I believe in a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood.
I'm pro-decriminalization of all narcotics.
Pro gay marriage.
Support the 2nd amendment.
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Ted Cruz 76%
Paul 75%
Trump 73%
Carson 72%
Bush 66%
Clinton 64%
Sanders 62%
Ideology: Libertarian
Paul 75%
Trump 73%
Carson 72%
Bush 66%
Clinton 64%
Sanders 62%
Ideology: Libertarian
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
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On the first one, who's paying for it and who's capping the amount that colleges can charge for this "free" college education? You know, those same "not-for-profit" colleges that routinely raise their tuitions lockstep, and often higher relatively, every time government decides they want to pay for more people to go to college.kalm wrote:
I want free college education or skills training.
I believe in a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood.
And as for ending corporate personhood, surely you don't mean to end it completely? The part of corporate personhood that allows for legal suits to be brought against a corporation for any acts the corporation has done in the past, regardless if the employees responsible and present then are no longer there, would seem to be a pretty good example of the good of corporate personhood. Surely you don't have a problem with that concept that has been around for about two centuries now, do you? Or are you just really pick and choose on this one and want to get rid of the parts you don't like?
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So it's an all or nothing thing with corporations? They can no longer be sued if they are not granted the exact same rights as people? I think you know what I meant.GannonFan wrote:On the first one, who's paying for it and who's capping the amount that colleges can charge for this "free" college education? You know, those same "not-for-profit" colleges that routinely raise their tuitions lockstep, and often higher relatively, every time government decides they want to pay for more people to go to college.kalm wrote:
I want free college education or skills training.
I believe in a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood.
And as for ending corporate personhood, surely you don't mean to end it completely? The part of corporate personhood that allows for legal suits to be brought against a corporation for any acts the corporation has done in the past, regardless if the employees responsible and present then are no longer there, would seem to be a pretty good example of the good of corporate personhood. Surely you don't have a problem with that concept that has been around for about two centuries now, do you? Or are you just really pick and choose on this one and want to get rid of the parts you don't like?
Remember, I'm the visionary. I leave the details to my hordes of Ivy League lawyer minions.
And yes, the way we fund colleges would need to change a little but it's not as if there aren't ways of funding and models for this.
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Carson 90%
Trump
Cruz
Fiorina
Rubio
Bush
Christie 80%
Santorum
Huckabee
Paul
Kasich 67%
Clinton 52%
Sanders
Webb
O'Malley 16%
Not much of a surprise for me.
Trump
Cruz
Fiorina
Rubio
Bush
Christie 80%
Santorum
Huckabee
Paul
Kasich 67%
Clinton 52%
Sanders
Webb
O'Malley 16%
Not much of a surprise for me.
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Name one that doesn't steal from some other cause that is more important.kalm wrote:So it's an all or nothing thing with corporations? They can no longer be sued if they are not granted the exact same rights as people? I think you know what I meant.GannonFan wrote:
On the first one, who's paying for it and who's capping the amount that colleges can charge for this "free" college education? You know, those same "not-for-profit" colleges that routinely raise their tuitions lockstep, and often higher relatively, every time government decides they want to pay for more people to go to college.
And as for ending corporate personhood, surely you don't mean to end it completely? The part of corporate personhood that allows for legal suits to be brought against a corporation for any acts the corporation has done in the past, regardless if the employees responsible and present then are no longer there, would seem to be a pretty good example of the good of corporate personhood. Surely you don't have a problem with that concept that has been around for about two centuries now, do you? Or are you just really pick and choose on this one and want to get rid of the parts you don't like?
Remember, I'm the visionary. I leave the details to my hordes of Ivy League lawyer minions.
And yes, the way we fund colleges would need to change a little but it's not as if there aren't ways of funding and models for this.
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The problem here is deciding what is more important. Getting people to agree would be impossible.CAA Flagship wrote:Name one that doesn't steal from some other cause that is more important.kalm wrote:
So it's an all or nothing thing with corporations? They can no longer be sued if they are not granted the exact same rights as people? I think you know what I meant.
Remember, I'm the visionary. I leave the details to my hordes of Ivy League lawyer minions.
And yes, the way we fund colleges would need to change a little but it's not as if there aren't ways of funding and models for this.
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I think before anyone entertains the concept of fully paying for college we need to have a better understanding of the cost drivers causing college costs to dramatically outpace inflation.CAA Flagship wrote:Name one that doesn't steal from some other cause that is more important.kalm wrote:
So it's an all or nothing thing with corporations? They can no longer be sued if they are not granted the exact same rights as people? I think you know what I meant.
Remember, I'm the visionary. I leave the details to my hordes of Ivy League lawyer minions.
And yes, the way we fund colleges would need to change a little but it's not as if there aren't ways of funding and models for this.
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kalm wrote:I want both people AND corporations off the government dole so I guess that eliminates me from being a conservative Yes
I want to strengthen border security and restrict immigration. Yes
I like single payer health insurance (NO) while maintaining private providers and manufacturers. Yes
I want free college education (NO) or skills training Yes
I like fair trade Yes
I want the big banks and big Ag broken up Yes
I want to see financial regulations and criminal laws enforced. EVENLY---Yes
I believe in strong environmental protection. Yes, but not ridiculously
I believe in competition therefore I strongly support strict anti-trust laws. Yes
I believe in a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood. Yes
I'm pro-decriminalization of all narcotics. Yes--but who pays for healthcare?
Pro gay marriage Yes--nobody elses business
Support the 2nd amendment Yes, but do you support background checks?
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See! We're practically clones! How does that feel? Muwhahahaha!AZGrizFan wrote:kalm wrote:I want both people AND corporations off the government dole so I guess that eliminates me from being a conservative Yes
I want to strengthen border security and restrict immigration. Yes
I like single payer health insurance (NO) while maintaining private providers and manufacturers. Yes
I want free college education (NO) or skills training Yes
I like fair trade Yes
I want the big banks and big Ag broken up Yes
I want to see financial regulations and criminal laws enforced. EVENLY---Yes
I believe in strong environmental protection. Yes, but not ridiculously
I believe in competition therefore I strongly support strict anti-trust laws. Yes
I believe in a constitutional amendment to end corporate personhood. Yes
I'm pro-decriminalization of all narcotics. Yes--but who pays for healthcare?
Pro gay marriage Yes--nobody elses business
Support the 2nd amendment Yes, but do you support background checks?![]()
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Agreed. I think Ganny makes good points on this as well.ASUG8 wrote:I think before anyone entertains the concept of fully paying for college we need to have a better understanding of the cost drivers causing college costs to dramatically outpace inflation.CAA Flagship wrote: Name one that doesn't steal from some other cause that is more important.
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I had to do mine again to get my ideological thing since I didn't note it last time. Here it is:
Shocker.Right-Wing Libertarian
Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came

And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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GannonFan, the ultimate jellyfish, yelled at you?ASUG8 wrote:I told him I thought he was liberal a couple of years ago and he yelled at me.Ivytalk wrote: You are nuts. Or you played games with the poll.
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The devil is in the details, Klammy. The devil is in the details.kalm wrote:See! We're practically clones! How does that feel? Muwhahahaha!AZGrizFan wrote:![]()
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JohnStOnge wrote:I had to do mine again to get my ideological thing since I didn't note it last time. Here it is:
Shocker.Right-Wing Libertarian
Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.
Mine said the same thing except I got "moderately" Libertarian
Right-Wing Libertarian
Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Right-Wing and moderately Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
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Here was a question from the "Social Issues" part of JSO's quiz. Did anyone else have it?JohnStOnge wrote:I had to do mine again to get my ideological thing since I didn't note it last time. Here it is:
Shocker.Right-Wing Libertarian
Your political beliefs would be considered strongly Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.
All homosexuals should be deported. Agree or disagree?
YES
NO
YES, what they do is unnatural. It just is. Really. Trust me. Yuck.
YES, because none of them are Constitutional originalists
NO, because where else would you find a quality florist, hairdresser, or interior decorator?
NO, because they are the life of every cocktail party.
MAYBE, do you mean bears or twinks?
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Ivytalk wrote:Here was a question from the "Social Issues" part of JSO's quiz. Did anyone else have it?JohnStOnge wrote:I had to do mine again to get my ideological thing since I didn't note it last time. Here it is:
Shocker.
All homosexuals should be deported. Agree or disagree?
YES
NO
YES, what they do is unnatural. It just is. Really. Trust me. Yuck.
YES, because none of them are Constitutional originalists
NO, because where else would you find a quality florist, hairdresser, or interior decorator?
NO, because they are the life of every cocktail party.
MAYBE, do you mean bears or twinks?
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