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Re: Who cares if Obama attends Scalia's funeral?

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JohnStOnge wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Disagreeing with someone, getting annoyed with someone or just plain not liking someone is one thing. But I don't think I'd ever be glad someone died. That's pathetic.
I think that if someone says there are no circumstances in which they would be glad to see someone die they are either lying or they haven't really thought about it.
No circumstances and ideology are way different things.

I would never be "glad" someone dies due to their political beliefs. That's plain and simply screwy.
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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I think that if someone says there are no circumstances in which they would be glad to see someone die they are either lying or they haven't really thought about it.
No circumstances and ideology are way different things.

I would never be "glad" someone dies due to their political beliefs. That's plain and simply screwy.
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:You realize that you are playing PC police, right?

Stop being so offended, AZ. :ohno:
It was pretty obvious AZ was pointing out gross hypocrisy. :?
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Re: Who cares if Obama attends Scalia's funeral?

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I would never be "glad" someone dies due to their political beliefs. That's plain and simply screwy.
It's when the beliefs have effects that those beliefs count. Like suppose someone's ideology is mid 20th century style fascism and they actually gain power. Now they're doing all the sorts of things mid 20th century style fascists did when they were in power. You know, like if anybody says something critical of them they get hung with piano wire or something like that. Maybe they pick some group to demonize and exterminate. I don't know...let's say they say they're going to immediately execute anybody of obvious Asian ancestry. And lets say that their death would mean at least a chance to put an end to that sort of thing. Perfectly reasonable to be glad if they drop dead from a heart attack one day.

Anyway I'm not glad if some liberal who has no impact on anything dies. But if there is a Supreme Court Justice who believes in Liberal Constitutional Revisionism those beliefs have real impacts. It's not what they believe per se. It's what they DO as a result of those beliefs and their being in a position of power. And yes if they happen to die at a time when there's a good chance to replace them with a Justice who believes in actually following the Constitution (i.e., proceed according to Original Understanding) I am thrilled. It's a positive thing.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
I would never be "glad" someone dies due to their political beliefs. That's plain and simply screwy.
It's when the beliefs have effects that those beliefs count. Like suppose someone's ideology is mid 20th century style fascism and they actually gain power. Now they're doing all the sorts of things mid 20th century style fascists did when they were in power. You know, like if anybody says something critical of them they get hung with piano wire or something like that. Maybe they pick some group to demonize and exterminate. I don't know...let's say they say they're going to immediately execute anybody of obvious Asian ancestry. And lets say that their death would mean at least a chance to put an end to that sort of thing. Perfectly reasonable to be glad if they drop dead from a heart attack one day.

Anyway I'm not glad if some liberal who has no impact on anything dies. But if there is a Supreme Court Justice who believes in Liberal Constitutional Revisionism those beliefs have real impacts. It's not what they believe per se. It's what they DO as a result of those beliefs and their being in a position of power. And yes if they happen to die at a time when there's a good chance to replace them with a Justice who believes in actually following the Constitution (i.e., proceed according to Original Understanding) I am thrilled. It's a positive thing.
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houndawg wrote:
Baldy wrote: It was pretty obvious AZ was pointing out gross hypocrisy. :?
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AZ doesn't need defending. It's just fun making ignoramuses like you look stupid. :lol:
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If you think it sounds better I can say that it's not being happy that somebody dies per se. It's being happy that they have been removed from power. Death is just the way in which it happened. Like if the Republicans manage to get by the way Trump is screwing up their chances and win the White House while holding the Senate I'd be happy to see Justice Ginsberg or any of the other Liberal Revisionists on the Court leave their positions. But I wouldn't care how it happened. I'd be just as happy if one of them decided to retire or go to work in private industry as I would if they died.

But good grief Liberal Constitutional Revisionism has completely screwed things up in this country plus it's just flat morally wrong because it violates the principle of Government by the People. As I've said many times before it's oligarchy. Essentially an element of Authoritarianism. I don't want people like that in power.
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JohnStOnge wrote:If you think it sounds better I can say that it's not being happy that somebody dies per se. It's being happy that they have been removed from power. Death is just the way in which it happened. Like if the Republicans manage to get by the way Trump is screwing up their chances and win the White House while holding the Senate I'd be happy to see Justice Ginsberg or any of the other Liberal Revisionists on the Court leave their positions. But I wouldn't care how it happened. I'd be just as happy if one of them decided to retire or go to work in private industry as I would if they died.

But good grief Liberal Constitutional Revisionism has completely screwed things up in this country plus it's just flat morally wrong because it violates the principle of Government by the People. As I've said many times before it's oligarchy. Essentially an element of Authoritarianism. I don't want people like that in power.

You say:
"liberal constitutional revisionism has completely screwed thing up in this country"...

Where the heck do you live anyway..?
Nobody interferes with my ability to pretty much do damn well whatever I please
You argue the Middle Class is perfectly fine
Planned Parenthood is being de-funded all around you
Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Please explain (other than Gay weddings) exactly what you're talking about - EXACTLY not vaguely


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Chizzang wrote: Nobody interferes with my ability to pretty much do damn well whatever I please

Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now
Coincidence? I think not.... :coffee: :coffee:
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Chizzang wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:If you think it sounds better I can say that it's not being happy that somebody dies per se. It's being happy that they have been removed from power. Death is just the way in which it happened. Like if the Republicans manage to get by the way Trump is screwing up their chances and win the White House while holding the Senate I'd be happy to see Justice Ginsberg or any of the other Liberal Revisionists on the Court leave their positions. But I wouldn't care how it happened. I'd be just as happy if one of them decided to retire or go to work in private industry as I would if they died.

But good grief Liberal Constitutional Revisionism has completely screwed things up in this country plus it's just flat morally wrong because it violates the principle of Government by the People. As I've said many times before it's oligarchy. Essentially an element of Authoritarianism. I don't want people like that in power.

You say:
"liberal constitutional revisionism has completely screwed thing up in this country"...

Where the heck do you live anyway..?
Nobody interferes with my ability to pretty much do damn well whatever I please
You argue the Middle Class is perfectly fine
Planned Parenthood is being de-funded all around you
Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Please explain (other than Gay weddings) exactly what you're talking about - EXACTLY not vaguely


:coffee:
The democrats controlled both houses from Jan 07'-11'. The republicans have controlled the House for 5 years (since Jan 2011). They have controlled the Senate for a year (since Jan last year).

Yeah, 5 years and 1 year is "damn near a decade" :dunce:
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Chizzang wrote: Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Bastards!

Here I was thinking it was a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House that passed Obamacare without a single GOP vote.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote: Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Bastards!

Here I was thinking it was a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House that passed Obamacare without a single GOP vote.
Don't forget its the GOP fault that Obamacare wasn't what the Democrats wanted.

Wait...
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote: Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Bastards!

Here I was thinking it was a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House that passed Obamacare without a single GOP vote.
Chizz's attention to detail and memory recall is amazing. :lol:

Chizz is able to say he can do almost anything he wants simply because he is a hippie who doesn't remember what he wanted to do in the first place.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Conservatives have held congress for damn near a decade now

Please explain (other than Gay weddings) exactly what you're talking about - EXACTLY not vaguely


:coffee:
The democrats controlled both houses from Jan 07'-11'. The republicans have controlled the House for 5 years (since Jan 2011). They have controlled the Senate for a year (since Jan last year).

Yeah, 5 years and 1 year is "damn near a decade" :dunce:
I was going to call him out on that, but it just seemed too damned easy. SO easy, in fact, I was willing to give chizzy a pass that it was just one to many bowls smoked before posting....
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So all of you guys agree with John...
That America is completely ruined because of Liberal legislation

I see :coffee:

and I live in Liberal Washington State
and do damn near anything without any trouble
and its the most successful state in America for Business

How strange...
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Chizzang wrote:So all of you guys agree with John...
That America is completely ruined because of Liberal legislation

I see :coffee:

and I live in Liberal Washington State
and do damn near anything without any trouble
and its the most successful state in America for Business

How strange...
Was that a queef? :suspicious:
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Chizzang wrote:So all of you guys agree with John...
That America is completely ruined because of Liberal legislation

I see :coffee:

and I live in Liberal Washington State
and do damn near anything without any trouble
and its the most successful state in America for Business

How strange...
Have Republicans ruled that congress for a decade too? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Chizzang wrote:So all of you guys agree with John...
That America is completely ruined because of Liberal legislation

I see :coffee:

and I live in Liberal Washington State
and do damn near anything without any trouble
and its the most successful state in America for Business

How strange...
Please share the facts to back this claim, and please explain how it happened.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:So all of you guys agree with John...
That America is completely ruined because of Liberal legislation

I see :coffee:

and I live in Liberal Washington State
and do damn near anything without any trouble
and its the most successful state in America for Business

How strange...
Please share the facts to back this claim, and please explain how it happened.

:rofl:

Here let me do what Christians do...
Prove what I said isn't true

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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Please share the facts to back this claim, and please explain how it happened.

:rofl:

Here let me do what Christians do...
Prove what I said isn't true

:geek:

Careful how you respond to this
You might defeat yourself in future thread debates
Translation: He pulled the statement out of his ass, like most of his comments, and has ZERO factual information to back it up. But it sure sounded good! :kisswink:
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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Please share the facts to back this claim, and please explain how it happened.

:rofl:

Here let me do what Christians do...
Prove what I said isn't true

:geek:

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

:rofl:

Here let me do what Christians do...
Prove what I said isn't true

:geek:

Careful how you respond to this
You might defeat yourself in future thread debates
Translation: He pulled the statement out of his ass, like most of his comments, and has ZERO factual information to back it up. But it sure sounded good! :kisswink:

Where do you think Washington State Ranks then...?
Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several

But I'm curious - before I post the article - what YOU think
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Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Translation: He pulled the statement out of his ass, like most of his comments, and has ZERO factual information to back it up. But it sure sounded good! :kisswink:

Where do you think Washington State Ranks then...?
Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several

But I'm curious - before I post the article - what YOU think
Yup...definitely a series of queefs.

You should change your skirt.

Washington was...wait for it...NOT in the top 5 in the first link that was provided. :lol:
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Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Translation: He pulled the statement out of his ass, like most of his comments, and has ZERO factual information to back it up. But it sure sounded good! :kisswink:

Where do you think Washington State Ranks then...?
Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several

But I'm curious - before I post the article - what YOU think
Funny, it's not in the top 5 in ANY of the links provided by Flaggy. You know which state IS routinely in the top 5?

Texas. :coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Where do you think Washington State Ranks then...?
Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several

But I'm curious - before I post the article - what YOU think
Funny, it's not in the top 5 in ANY of the links provided by Flaggy. You know which state IS routinely in the top 5?

Texas. :coffee: :coffee:
So where are we at?
We started at "the most successful state" and have backpedaled to "Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several". I think the next step will be a change of the word "every".
This is likely a 10 step process. Be patient. :lol:
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