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Re: One Nation Under God

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Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:
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What are you nodding about, densedawg? You're no frickin' moderate.
When compared to how Americans poll on many key issues he is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... l-campaign

(Freak out alert: It's Mother Jones but the numbers come from a variety of polling sources including Gallup and PPP, are not new, and have been mentioned for years....so blow me!)
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Re: One Nation Under God

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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: What are you nodding about, densedawg? You're no frickin' moderate.
When compared to how Americans poll on many key issues he is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... l-campaign

(Freak out alert: It's Mother Jones but the numbers come from a variety of polling sources including Gallup and PPP, are not new, and have been mentioned for years....so blow me!)
:lol:

Holy targeting and cherrypicking Batman. :rofl:

Looking at the links in that "article", the fine print was interesting.

"In a poll conducted for MoveOn.org"...or " for The Center of American Progress"...or "a poll conducted by Hart Research Associates"...or "the American Sustainable Business Council".

Far left-wing mouth breathers polling far left-wing knuckle draggers. :rofl:

I would love to see the internals and demographic breakdown of these...ahem..."polls", but of course, that information isn't available. Shocking... :coffee:

Another klamfail. :ohno:
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Re: One Nation Under God

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
When compared to how Americans poll on many key issues he is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... l-campaign

(Freak out alert: It's Mother Jones but the numbers come from a variety of polling sources including Gallup and PPP, are not new, and have been mentioned for years....so blow me!)
:lol:

Holy targeting and cherrypicking Batman. :rofl:

Looking at the links in that "article", the fine print was interesting.

"In a poll conducted for MoveOn.org"...or " for The Center of American Progress"...or "a poll conducted by Hart Research Associates"...or "the American Sustainable Business Council".

Far left-wing mouth breathers polling far left-wing knuckle draggers. :rofl:

I would love to see the internals and demographic breakdown of these...ahem..."polls", but of course, that information isn't available. Shocking... :coffee:

Another klamfail. :ohno:
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Polls :lol: :lol:
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Re: One Nation Under God

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John can be entertaining sometimes. Masterful troll.
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Re: One Nation Under God

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
When compared to how Americans poll on many key issues he is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... l-campaign

(Freak out alert: It's Mother Jones but the numbers come from a variety of polling sources including Gallup and PPP, are not new, and have been mentioned for years....so blow me!)
:lol:

Holy targeting and cherrypicking Batman. :rofl:

Looking at the links in that "article", the fine print was interesting.

"In a poll conducted for MoveOn.org"...or " for The Center of American Progress"...or "a poll conducted by Hart Research Associates"...or "the American Sustainable Business Council".

Far left-wing mouth breathers polling far left-wing knuckle draggers. :rofl:

I would love to see the internals and demographic breakdown of these...ahem..."polls", but of course, that information isn't available. Shocking... :coffee:

Another klamfail. :ohno:
Freak out is successful! :lol: Like I said there were a few biased ones but also some legit, and if you clicked on a couple of the links, the poll breakdowns ARE available.

Regardless, do you think a majority of Americans:

Are opposed to raising taxes on Wall Street and the wealthy?

Believe we should maintain or increase our military spending and engagement?

Cut SS and Medicare?

Support for-profit health insurance?

Support the War on Drugs?

Are opposed to gay marriage?

Are opposed to campaign finance reform?

Are opposed to some form of government provided higher education?

Believe we need less regulation of healthcare, food safety, finance?

I can add to the list if you'd like, but face it...Americans are far more progressive than you think or how they even vote.

Me and Uncle Houndy...TOTALLY representing the middle!


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Re: One Nation Under God

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Re: One Nation Under God

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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:
:lol:

Holy targeting and cherrypicking Batman. :rofl:

Looking at the links in that "article", the fine print was interesting.

"In a poll conducted for MoveOn.org"...or " for The Center of American Progress"...or "a poll conducted by Hart Research Associates"...or "the American Sustainable Business Council".

Far left-wing mouth breathers polling far left-wing knuckle draggers. :rofl:

I would love to see the internals and demographic breakdown of these...ahem..."polls", but of course, that information isn't available. Shocking... :coffee:

Another klamfail. :ohno:
Freak out is successful! :lol: Like I said there were a few biased ones but also some legit, and if you clicked on a couple of the links, the poll breakdowns ARE available.

Regardless, do you think a majority of Americans:

Are opposed to raising taxes on Wall Street and the wealthy?

Believe we should maintain or increase our military spending and engagement?

Cut SS and Medicare?

Support for-profit health insurance?

Support the War on Drugs?

Are opposed to gay marriage?

Are opposed to campaign finance reform?

Are opposed to some form of government provided higher education?

Believe we need less regulation of healthcare, food safety, finance?

I can add to the list if you'd like, but face it...Americans are far more progressive than you think or how they even vote.

Me and Uncle Houndy...TOTALLY representing the middle!


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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:
:lol:

Holy targeting and cherrypicking Batman. :rofl:

Looking at the links in that "article", the fine print was interesting.

"In a poll conducted for MoveOn.org"...or " for The Center of American Progress"...or "a poll conducted by Hart Research Associates"...or "the American Sustainable Business Council".

Far left-wing mouth breathers polling far left-wing knuckle draggers. :rofl:

I would love to see the internals and demographic breakdown of these...ahem..."polls", but of course, that information isn't available. Shocking... :coffee:

Another klamfail. :ohno:
Freak out is successful! :lol: Like I said there were a few biased ones but also some legit, and if you clicked on a couple of the links, the poll breakdowns ARE available.

Regardless, do you think a majority of Americans:

Are opposed to raising taxes on Wall Street and the wealthy?

Believe we should maintain or increase our military spending and engagement?

Cut SS and Medicare?

Support for-profit health insurance?

Support the War on Drugs?

Are opposed to gay marriage?

Are opposed to campaign finance reform?

Are opposed to some form of government provided higher education?

Believe we need less regulation of healthcare, food safety, finance?

I can add to the list if you'd like, but face it...Americans are far more progressive than you think or how they even vote.
You question like a Liberal pollster. :lol:

Just to add a little common sense perspective to some of your loaded questions...

Most Americans are opposed to raising taxes, period.
Most Americans want Medicare and SSI reformed.
Most Americans don't want government run healthcare. Single payer or not.
Most Americans are against free college for all.
Most Americans want less regulation, period.

Face it. When you ask loaded questions to a slanted demographic, you're going to get results that will make the low information people think normal Americans are as bat shit crazy as they are. :rofl:
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Some history from the US Mint (https://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/f ... fun_facts5):
From Treasury Department records it appears that the first suggestion that God be recognized on U.S. coinage can be traced to a letter addressed to the Secretary of Treasury from a minister in 1861. An Act of Congress, approved on April 11, 1864, authorized the coinage of two-cent coins upon which the motto first appeared.

The motto was omitted from the new gold coins issued in 1907, causing a storm of public criticism. As a result, legislation passed in May 1908 made "In God We Trust" mandatory on all coins on which it had previously appeared.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Some history from the US Mint (https://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/f ... fun_facts5):
From Treasury Department records it appears that the first suggestion that God be recognized on U.S. coinage can be traced to a letter addressed to the Secretary of Treasury from a minister in 1861. An Act of Congress, approved on April 11, 1864, authorized the coinage of two-cent coins upon which the motto first appeared.

The motto was omitted from the new gold coins issued in 1907, causing a storm of public criticism. As a result, legislation passed in May 1908 made "In God We Trust" mandatory on all coins on which it had previously appeared.
Yup, predates the Red Scare.

I think it shoul be removed.


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Re: One Nation Under God

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Freak out is successful! :lol: Like I said there were a few biased ones but also some legit, and if you clicked on a couple of the links, the poll breakdowns ARE available.

Regardless, do you think a majority of Americans:

Are opposed to raising taxes on Wall Street and the wealthy?

Believe we should maintain or increase our military spending and engagement?

Cut SS and Medicare?

Support for-profit health insurance?

Support the War on Drugs?

Are opposed to gay marriage?

Are opposed to campaign finance reform?

Are opposed to some form of government provided higher education?

Believe we need less regulation of healthcare, food safety, finance?

I can add to the list if you'd like, but face it...Americans are far more progressive than you think or how they even vote.
You question like a Liberal pollster. :lol:

Just to add a little common sense perspective to some of your loaded questions...

Most Americans are opposed to raising taxes, period.
Most Americans want Medicare and SSI reformed.
Most Americans don't want government run healthcare. Single payer or not.
Most Americans are against free college for all.
Most Americans want less regulation, period.

Face it. When you ask loaded questions to a slanted demographic, you're going to get results that will make the low information people think normal Americans are as bat shit crazy as they are. :rofl:
News flash: nobody likes big government (including me) except when it threatens to take away their own standard of living (including you). :nod:

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kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote:
You question like a Liberal pollster. :lol:

Just to add a little common sense perspective to some of your loaded questions...

Most Americans are opposed to raising taxes, period.
Most Americans want Medicare and SSI reformed.
Most Americans don't want government run healthcare. Single payer or not.
Most Americans are against free college for all.
Most Americans want less regulation, period.

Face it. When you ask loaded questions to a slanted demographic, you're going to get results that will make the low information people think normal Americans are as bat shit crazy as they are. :rofl:
News flash: nobody likes big government (including me) except when it threatens to take away their own standard of living (including you). :nod:

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
News flash: nobody likes big government (including me) except when it threatens to take away their own standard of living (including you). :nod:

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Exactly. I first read your post last night after a few (lots of) drinks. It made more sense then. :lol:
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Exactly. I first read your post last night after a few (lots of) drinks. It made more sense then. :lol:
Let me know if you still need it explained to you. I'm here to help. :thumb:
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This was my favorite variation of that meme:

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Ibanez wrote: And churches should be taxed
Why is that?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: And churches should be taxed
Why is that?
There's no such thing as a free lunch.

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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Why is that?
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
So exactly what part of church finances would be taxed?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: And churches should be taxed
Why is that?
Because we shouldn't treat them differently than any other business. And that's what the churches have become, especially those mega churches.


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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
So exactly what part of church finances would be taxed?
Income.
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: So exactly what part of church finances would be taxed?
Income.
Should we do the same for United Way?
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Re: One Nation Under God

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CAA Flagship wrote:
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Income.
Should we do the same for United Way?
Are you suggesting that churches are strictly charities?
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