2016 Republican Primary

[93henfan]

"I love winning with women."

That's why I love this guy.

[Ibanez]

Over/under on how many of the Original 17 become members of a potential Trump administration?

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At least Christie.


Someone on Hannity said he should put Cruz in the Supreme Court.



Oh, and I can't WAIT to hear Glenn Beck bitch and moan tomorrow over Cruz leaving. The talking heads are going to be great.

[DSUrocks07]

Over/under on how many of the Original 17 become members of a potential Trump administration?

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At least Christie.


Someone on Hannity said he should put Cruz in the Supreme Court.



Oh, and I can't WAIT to hear Glenn Beck bitch and moan tomorrow over Cruz leaving. The talking heads are going to be great.

Gingrich on Hannity just threw out Rubio and Scott Walker as potential VP candidates

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[DSUrocks07]

Bobby Jindal agrees with me, Trump taking a page out of Cruz's playbook and putting out there a list of who he would nominate to the SCOTUS, who he would have on his staf and a part of his cabinet prior to the election would go a long way to aiding him in the general.

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[Ibanez]

At least Christie.


Someone on Hannity said he should put Cruz in the Supreme Court.



Oh, and I can't WAIT to hear Glenn Beck bitch and moan tomorrow over Cruz leaving. The talking heads are going to be great.

Gingrich on Hannity just threw out Rubio and Scott Walker as potential VP candidates

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That's funny sInce Sean suggested Newt for VP today.

[DSUrocks07]

Gingrich on Hannity just threw out Rubio and Scott Walker as potential VP candidates

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That's funny sInce Sean suggested Newt for VP today.

could you imagine Newt has his Chief of Staff?

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[BDKJMU]

Another thing: I was one who railed against stereotyping of Republican voters. They were portrayed as being irrational, etc. I always argued against that. Now I am forced to admit that those who were saying those things were right. We have had a great experiment. A candidate who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and just demagogues and engages in ad hominem attacks came forth. Surely nobody with a living brain cell would vote for him.

But lots of Republican primary voters did vote for him. There is no defending Republican voters now.

John, glad to see you finally realizing this. I think what's worse is that so many people voted for someone other than the best candidate, Kasich.


My wife just told me, regarding Trump, "A good screw to clear our heads."

Kasich- a pro amnesty, establishment, professional politician. 27 of the last 36 years in politics, 18 in DC. Of the 8 years he was out, 7 were with Lehman Brothers 2001-2008 until they went belly up. No thanks. No more establishment, lifetime, professional politicians..

[YoUDeeMan]

Bernie is done after this. Keep fighting!

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

Face it...you like Sander's policies more than Hillary's. Sander's speech tonight was spot on. He leaves Hilary in the dust for the Liberal vote. Sanders speaks the truth.

Yet you, and other dimwitted clowns, mostly racist minorities, continue to support Hillary...against your own best interest.

And you might want to check whether you still have a package...your estrogen levels are rising.

[HI54UNI]

And if you're putting social issues ahead of the US economy, you're not very sharp.

Well it is the millennials that are polling that way.

[HI54UNI]

I vote that for the next four years, any post that JSO makes regarding Hillary and the Democrats in a negative light automatically get the HI5 treatment ala spanos

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Holy shit! If I had to keep up with him whining about hilldog I wouldn't do anything but post pics for 4 years.

In the meantime,

[YoUDeeMan]

"Russia is a threat again"

Hello, Cold War.

And Cruz is a rational candidate?

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Are you saying Cruz is irrational because he said Russia is a threat again? I mean, I don't know if you're saying Cruz said that and therefore he's irrational but if that's what you're saying I don't get it because it's pretty obvious that Russia is a threat again.

Russia is a threat to do WHAT?

JFC, you are really dumb. Do people in Louisiana worry about a commie invasion? Are you back in the 60 and 70s?

Russia is simply defending her traditional sphere of influence...and defending themselves against US intervention and expansion into their neighborhood. We've installed, or tried to install, wealthy crooks, as bad as anything Russia propped up, into countries across the globe.

Hell, we've helped supply far more arms and money to ISIS and those whack job Muslins than any other nation on the planet (don't mention Saudi Arabia...because we fund their sheikhs and military).

And you are actually worried about Russia. John, that is comical and bordering on lunacy.

[YoUDeeMan]

I 'd at "phenomenal running mate"

What for five days?

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Said the same thing to Lil' Cluck.

And, when Carly was speaking, I said to Lil' Cluck, "That sounds like a concession speech."

When Cruz began that weird blathering, I said, "Yup, he's bowing out."

Mrs. Cluck said, "No way."

Cluck U for the win!!!

[DSUrocks07]

Are you saying Cruz is irrational because he said Russia is a threat again? I mean, I don't know if you're saying Cruz said that and therefore he's irrational but if that's what you're saying I don't get it because it's pretty obvious that Russia is a threat again.

Russia is a threat to do WHAT?

JFC, you are really dumb. Do people in Louisiana worry about a commie invasion? Are you back in the 60 and 70s?

Russia is simply defending her traditional sphere of influence...and defending themselves against US intervention and expansion into their neighborhood. We've installed, or tried to install, wealthy crooks, as bad as anything Russia propped up, into countries across the globe.

Hell, we've helped supply far more arms and money to ISIS and those whack job Muslins than any other nation on the planet (don't mention Saudi Arabia...because we fund their sheikhs and military).

And you are actually worried about Russia. John, that is comical and bordering on lunacy.

ZOMG! THE SOVIET UNION IS COMING BACK!!!! PUTIN IS GONNA INVADE EUROPE AND ASIA AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND THREATEN OUR FREEDUMBS!!! #MURICA

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[DSUrocks07]

I 'd at "phenomenal running mate"

What for five days?

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Said the same thing to Lil' Cluck.

And, when Carly was speaking, I said to Lil' Cluck, "That sounds like a concession speech."

When Cruz began that weird blathering, I said, "Yup, he's bowing out."

Mrs. Cluck said, "No way."

Cluck U for the win!!!

Am I the only one who finds it funny that a disgraced former, (fired) CEO of a large technology company who laid off thousands of American workers is now supposedly a spokesperson for the conservative movement.
And that JSO thinks that she was an excellent choice for Cruz as his "running mate" (but in this short time wouldn't that be a jogging mate).

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[YoUDeeMan]

In a way, this lack of knowing how to debate showed in the primaries vs. Trump. I still don't understand how he was a debate champion in college.

What happened during the debates illustrates why I almost never watch those "debates." They're not debates. At least they're not debates in the sense of actually arguing about substance. What happened during those "debates" is that Trump hurled insults. He had nothing real. Nothing of substance. He just did stuff like tell Jeb Bush "if you get any lower in the polls you'll be off the stage."

And Republican primary voters responded positively to that kind of vacant approach. That is not a real positive indication with respect to Republican primary voters.

If you're talking about actual debate on substance Donald Trump is no match for Ted Cruz. No match for just about anybody else in the initial Republican field for that matter. But we weren't talking about debate on substance.

You still don't get it. Neither do most establishment people.

We, the people, are SICK of being lied to by people who pretend to care.

Idiots say that Trump doesn't look Presidential...that he doesn't give good policy speeches.

WTF are you, and others, talking about?

Run back in time and see how many of the previous, "Presidential" folks actually did anything that they, in those ridiculously prepared speeches, promised to do.

Sound bites...to appease the public. Then they go behind their closed doors and make deals to enrich themselves while forgetting their campaign promises.

Hillary is flopping around more than any candidate has in a long time. That comedian touched on it in his correspondence roast. Yet she continues to say she's ALWAYS stood for ___fill in the blank__.

And idiots like Lemiscate eat it up...even when they know she is lying.

Trump is a breath of fresh air. So is Bernie.

I wish both of them would win...but Bernie was too much of a pussy, and Dems voters were (oh, the irony) too conservative and entrenched with the establishment. Oh, and the so called progressive Blacks, chicks, and other miorities were too narrow minded, racist, and bigoted to support a White Man.

[YoUDeeMan]

So who did we decide for Trump's VP pick?

Are there any Hispanic Muslim transvestites married to an amputee black lives matter executive who supports a $15 minimum wage in the Republican Party?

[YoUDeeMan]

You actually think any of them are substantive?

It's like thinking someone with Cruz's social convictions is emotionally mature.

I mean, good grief!

Most of what Trump has done has been done by other politicians. The thing is that he raises the bar with those things. You've got to be a complete idiot to think any president is going to build the border wall Trump talks about, and even dumber to think any president is going to be able to make Mexico pay for it.

We don't need Mexico to pay for it (although that would be fantastic), and I think we can hurt Mexico enough to essentially have them pay for it). However, canceling one F35 should do the trick.

[YoUDeeMan]

Let me go back to a Bill Clinton mantra:

It's the economy stupid.

Trump is going to use a Clintonism to beat a Clinton.

Trade is going to be Trump's bread and butter issue. American working people are ANGRY about the results of Clinton's signature NAFTA and other trade policies that sent their jobs to Mexico and China.

Hillary has NO answer for that. Hell, she's now doing damage control in W VA with her past remarks about coal.

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID

I'm not voting for Trump if I want a robust economy unless he comes out with some plausible plans for how he'll improve things rather than just saying what people want to hear regardless of whether it contradicts something he has already said.

Steven Chapman has a nice opinion piece in the Chicago Tribune pointing out a few of Trump's contradictions ...

The stark, simple fact is that his budget proposals would do just the opposite — with a vengeance. It is impossible to simultaneously reduce revenue, increase spending, widen the budget deficit and pay down the debt. Any Wharton School graduate knows as much.

But Trump also knows what a lot of Americans want to hear, on foreign affairs as well as domestic ones. What they don't want to hear is that making sensible government policies means choosing among painful trade-offs.

These voters want everything they now get in the way of federal benefits while paying less in taxes. They want the United States to dominate the world and get its way without fail, but they shun any personal sacrifices to achieve those ambitious goals.

Trump is not one to disabuse them of these pleasant assumptions. If they insist on believing they can have it all, he'll promise to give it to them.

If he ends up in the White House, they'll be terribly disappointed to learn it was too good to be true. Until then, they'll enjoy the fantasy.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... t=blogroll

As POTUS, Trump can't spend the US to the top and then declare bankruptcy to avoid the creditors.

Fixing the economy is really simple.

Stop spending billions protecting other countries. Invest that money in our education and our infrastructure. Stop giving government contracts to anyone that makes our shit out of our country.

We spend a ginormous amount of money on things that give us little return. The money isn't recirculated to help our people out. We have a lot of military people, about 150,000 of them (and that doesn't count the peeps on ships that spend money when docked in other countries), helping to prop up other countries' economies. Bring them home and have them spend the money here. Foreign aid? Spend it here.

Every little thing adds up. I laugh at people that say, well, our aid is only 1% of the budget. Really? Our economy is slugging along at a limp...think 1% of our budget, circulated around, would help out? Give me $35 billion and I think I can make a lot of Americans happier. Of course, that doesn't include the defense budget...and certainly not the black budget for our foreign escapades, an example of which was when we dumped tens of millions to a bunch of goat herding drug lords in Afghanistan, only to have them turn around and attack our forces anyway. Think some struggling Americans could have used that money?

The waste and corruption in our government is unbelievable...and a lot of it goes to the 1% who don't bother to put it back into the economy.

We do not have a spending problem. There is plenty of money and potential work to go around. We have a prioritization problem.

[UNI88]

I'm not voting for Trump if I want a robust economy unless he comes out with some plausible plans for how he'll improve things rather than just saying what people want to hear regardless of whether it contradicts something he has already said.

Steven Chapman has a nice opinion piece in the Chicago Tribune pointing out a few of Trump's contradictions ...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... t=blogroll

As POTUS, Trump can't spend the US to the top and then declare bankruptcy to avoid the creditors.

Fixing the economy is really simple.

Stop spending billions protecting other countries. Invest that money in our education and our infrastructure. Stop giving government contracts to anyone that makes our **** out of our country.

We spend a ginormous amount of money on things that give us little return. The money isn't recirculated to help our people out. We have a lot of military people, about 150,000 of them (and that doesn't count the peeps on ships that spend money when docked in other countries), helping to prop up other countries' economies. Bring them home and have them spend the money here. Foreign aid? Spend it here.

Every little thing adds up. I laugh at people that say, well, our aid is only 1% of the budget. Really? Our economy is slugging along at a limp...think 1% of our budget, circulated around, would help out? Give me $35 billion and I think I can make a lot of Americans happier. Of course, that doesn't include the defense budget...and certainly not the black budget for our foreign escapades, an example of which was when we dumped tens of millions to a bunch of goat herding drug lords in Afghanistan, only to have them turn around and attack our forces anyway. Think some struggling Americans could have used that money?

The waste and corruption in our government is unbelievable...and a lot of it goes to the 1% who don't bother to put it back into the economy.

We do not have a spending problem. There is plenty of money and potential work to go around. We have a prioritization problem.

That is much more of a Rand Paul approach than a Trump approach.

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[YoUDeeMan]

Said the same thing to Lil' Cluck.

And, when Carly was speaking, I said to Lil' Cluck, "That sounds like a concession speech."

When Cruz began that weird blathering, I said, "Yup, he's bowing out."

Mrs. Cluck said, "No way."

Cluck U for the win!!!

Am I the only one who finds it funny that a disgraced former, (fired) CEO of a large technology company who laid off thousands of American workers is now supposedly a spokesperson for the conservative movement.
And that JSO thinks that she was an excellent choice for Cruz as his "running mate" (but in this short time wouldn't that be a jogging mate).

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She is almost as annoying as Cruz.

[∞∞∞]

I genuinely appreciate Sanders' campaign; he forced Clinton to actually debate issues instead of simply rolling through the talking points. He also allowed the Clinton campaign to hone in their skills for the GE. And while I don't think he'll be her VP (although she should really consider it), I think he's going to be key in uniting the Democratic Party and bringing his supporters to her campaign. Sanders, whether he knows it or not, might go down as one of the most important primary opponents in election history. He's completely energized the Democratic base and whether Trump supporters want to admit it or not, they now face a unified force that is MUCH tougher than anything they've faved so far.

Face it...you like Sander's policies more than Hillary's. Sander's speech tonight was spot on. He leaves Hilary in the dust for the Liberal vote. Sanders speaks the truth.

Yet you, and other dimwitted clowns, mostly racist minorities, continue to support Hillary...against your own best interest.

And you might want to check whether you still have a package...your estrogen levels are rising.

That's the best way to convince voters not to vote for a candidate...telling them they're stupid, racist, and voting against their best self interest. But it's fine...you have your vote and I have mine.

[BDKJMU]

Are you saying Cruz is irrational because he said Russia is a threat again? I mean, I don't know if you're saying Cruz said that and therefore he's irrational but if that's what you're saying I don't get it because it's pretty obvious that Russia is a threat again.

Russia is a threat to do WHAT?

JFC, you are really dumb. Do people in Louisiana worry about a commie invasion? Are you back in the 60 and 70s?

Russia is simply defending her traditional sphere of influence...and defending themselves against US intervention and expansion into their neighborhood. We've installed, or tried to install, wealthy crooks, as bad as anything Russia propped up, into countries across the globe.

Hell, we've helped supply far more arms and money to ISIS and those whack job Muslins than any other nation on the planet (don't mention Saudi Arabia...because we fund their sheikhs and military).

And you are actually worried about Russia. John, that is comical and bordering on lunacy.

Invade NATO countries Latvia or Lithuania, which according to Article 5 of NATO an attack on one is an attack on all. Don't think Russia would though only because Latvia & Lithuania are NATO members..

4 days ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/30 ... ussia.html

[JohnStOnge]

Trump is a breath of fresh air.

Trump is a foul stench. But that kind of comment reflects the underlying problem. Trump's behavior has been absolutely atrocious. Any decent parent who saw his or her son behaving like Trump does would take corrective action. You don't want your kid growing up to behave like that. Yet people call it "refreshing" and think it's cool that he "says what he thinks" and is "not politically correct." First of all, it's not clear that he says what he really thinks. He appears to say whatever he thinks he has to say in the moment to gain advantage and might say exactly the opposite tomorrow if he perceives doing so as being to his advantage then. And if he is saying what he really thinks that's even worse. And being "politically incorrect" is something like Jimmy the Greek saying he thought slave breeding was a factor in black athleticism. Something that runs afoul of the egalitarian orthodoxy but is an honest, reasoned opinion offered with no malice. Trump is just an asshole.

Then there's the part about him being the most dishonest Presidential candidate of the modern era; making false statements at a frequency that dwarfs the "efforts" in that regard by any of the other candidates. And the whole time he's calling other people as well as the media "dishonest" and "liar" when he's the most dishonest and lying thing out there.

[93henfan]

[93henfan]

Trump is a breath of fresh air.

Trump is a foul stench. But that kind of comment reflects the underlying problem. Trump's behavior has been absolutely atrocious. Any decent parent who saw his or her son behaving like Trump does would take corrective action. You don't want your kid growing up to behave like that. Yet people call it "refreshing" and think it's cool that he "says what he thinks" and is "not politically correct." First of all, it's not clear that he says what he really thinks. And if he is saying what he really thinks that's even worse. And being "politically incorrect" is something like Jimmy the Greek saying he thought slave breeding was a factor in black athleticism. Something that runs afoul of the egalitarian orthodoxy but is an honest, reasoned opinion offered with no malice. Trump is just an asshole.