Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
It probably IS nothing in the real context. But it's very easy when you're going through thousands of e mails to find a few bits of language that create bad impressions. It's like the two e mails Judicial Watch put out. Two e mails and, really, the flurry over each is pretty much a bunch of ado about nothing. But there is much ado.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
http://www.wptz.com/politics/trump-fine ... s/41162230Donald Trump said in an interview Thursday that he would support trying US citizens suspected of terrorism in military tribunals -- a controversial proposal that would likely be challenged as unconstitutional.
The Republican presidential nominee told the Miami Herald that he doesn't "at all" like the idea of trying terrorist suspects in the civilian court system, even though US citizens are constitutionally entitled to due process. He added that he would be "fine" with trying US citizens in military tribunals at Guantánamo Bay, the US naval base that is also home to a military prison housing captured terror suspects.
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Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
unless its proof of her personally selling nukes to ISIS it wont matterJohnStOnge wrote:Unfortunately, Julian Assange says he has an October surprise.CID1990 wrote:Trumps only up by 3 points in SC
you can go ahead and tell the monogrammer to put HRC on the White House napkins and towels
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
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Re: RE: Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
The only bad publicity is no publicity.Ivytalk wrote:Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
Now he can play the "mainstream media is corrupt" card. Which is a widely held belief on both sides of the aisle.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
I read that they are just now getting costs in battleground states.Ivytalk wrote:Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
I like the strategy. Too early now.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
It's certainly unconventional, but have you noticed, you don't see a lot of Hillary in the news either, unless she's talking about Trump? It doesn't seem like it's working now (because it isn't) but if he keeps taking all the air from the room who knows how this will play out later in the election cycle. Nobody, me included, gave him a chance to last more than a month once he announced he was running, but, buffoonery and all, he's still here more than a year later.Ivytalk wrote:Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
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Re: RE: Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Everyone rails on Trump about not being able to substantiate his policy positions, but you would be hard pressed to accurate define Hillary's at this point either. Usually one side will take a firm stand on an issue that will inevitably piss off a sizable contingent of voters (Hillary in West Virginia) and then the other will move quickly to embrace the opposite. But with Trump its a total crapshoot.GannonFan wrote:It's certainly unconventional, but have you noticed, you don't see a lot of Hillary in the news either, unless she's talking about Trump? It doesn't seem like it's working now (because it isn't) but if he keeps taking all the air from the room who knows how this will play out later in the election cycle. Nobody, me included, gave him a chance to last more than a month once he announced he was running, but, buffoonery and all, he's still here more than a year later.Ivytalk wrote:Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.SDHornet wrote:And you think that is going to carry over for the common folk? And that hilldog would be the one to look out for the common folk?houndawg wrote:
No logic fail at all my young brown brother - what you've paraphrased is a fair description of the free ride Wall Street and the savage bankers had on our dime.![]()
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
You keep talking like your not going to pull the lever for hilldog...that entertains me.houndawg wrote:I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.SDHornet wrote:
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Bernie was never a threat, the DNC was very clear it would never come to that.houndawg wrote:I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.SDHornet wrote:
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
He used the free media from his controversial comments last summer and fall to great effect......GannonFan wrote:It's certainly unconventional, but have you noticed, you don't see a lot of Hillary in the news either, unless she's talking about Trump? It doesn't seem like it's working now (because it isn't) but if he keeps taking all the air from the room who knows how this will play out later in the election cycle. Nobody, me included, gave him a chance to last more than a month once he announced he was running, but, buffoonery and all, he's still here more than a year later.Ivytalk wrote:Haven't seen a single Trump TV ad yet. He's still relying on the "free media" that has turned on him with a vengeance.
... But, he was playing to the Republican base to win the Republican primary.
Now, he is trying to win swing voters in swing states.... and, though he needs to moderate and start seeming preaidential.... He can't help stepping on his dick. He gave a serious speech last week on the economy... And... has completely killed anything positive from it immediately afterward.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
GannonFan wrote:Bernie was never a threat, the DNC was very clear it would never come to that.houndawg wrote:
I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
I don't know who this guy on CNN is who is questioning the Arkansas Attorney General but I am loving it. She keeps trying to change the subject when he asks her questions and he keeps saying stuff along the lines of saying that's not what he's asking about. Keeps asking her to answer the question instead of trying to change the subject. This is great.
This guy ought to be on all the time. He really does create a situation where the person being interviewed is called on it when they try to change the subject instead of answering the fricking question.
This guy ought to be on all the time. He really does create a situation where the person being interviewed is called on it when they try to change the subject instead of answering the fricking question.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
You do realize, right, that she attempted to craft a universal health care program and ended up settling for getting the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) right? And you do realize that she got out of Yale Law School and, instead of going for being in a highly profitable law firm, opted to work for the Children's Defense Fund, right?houndawg wrote: I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.
Look, I do not agree with Clinton's world view. But to fail to recognize her Liberal inclinations is kind of ridiculous given her history. She has always been all in on having pseudo socialist programs and redistribution of income.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
What a turd. The RealClearPolitics polling average has him down 9.2 percentage points in Pennsylvania and he's demagoguing about how if he loses that State it means somebody cheated.
This guy is beyond the pale. You people who support him need to repent.
This guy is beyond the pale. You people who support him need to repent.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Repent? What is this shyt? You mean Hildabeast has cornered the evangelical vote?JohnStOnge wrote:What a turd. The RealClearPolitics polling average has him down 9.2 percentage points in Pennsylvania and he's demagoguing about how if he loses that State it means somebody cheated.
This guy is beyond the pale. You people who support him need to repent.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Yes. And she's on the record for being pro democracy and world peace as America is currently sending more military aid to Saudi Arabia to bomb the fucking peace into those Yemenis!JohnStOnge wrote:You do realize, right, that she attempted to craft a universal health care program and ended up settling for getting the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) right? And you do realize that she got out of Yale Law School and, instead of going for being in a highly profitable law firm, opted to work for the Children's Defense Fund, right?houndawg wrote: I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.
Look, I do not agree with Clinton's world view. But to fail to recognize her Liberal inclinations is kind of ridiculous given her history. She has always been all in on having pseudo socialist programs and redistribution of income.
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Re: RE: Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Thou shalt now speak blasphemy towards the Throne of Clinton. Repent now!! REPENT!!!Ivytalk wrote:Repent? What is this shyt? You mean Hildabeast has cornered the evangelical vote?JohnStOnge wrote:What a turd. The RealClearPolitics polling average has him down 9.2 percentage points in Pennsylvania and he's demagoguing about how if he loses that State it means somebody cheated.
This guy is beyond the pale. You people who support him need to repent.
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Re: RE: Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
The O'Reilly factor moved to the Commie News Network?JohnStOnge wrote:I don't know who this guy on CNN is who is questioning the Arkansas Attorney General but I am loving it. She keeps trying to change the subject when he asks her questions and he keeps saying stuff along the lines of saying that's not what he's asking about. Keeps asking her to answer the question instead of trying to change the subject. This is great.
This guy ought to be on all the time. He really does create a situation where the person being interviewed is called on it when they try to change the subject instead of answering the fricking question.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
This.Skjellyfetti wrote:He used the free media from his controversial comments last summer and fall to great effect......GannonFan wrote:
It's certainly unconventional, but have you noticed, you don't see a lot of Hillary in the news either, unless she's talking about Trump? It doesn't seem like it's working now (because it isn't) but if he keeps taking all the air from the room who knows how this will play out later in the election cycle. Nobody, me included, gave him a chance to last more than a month once he announced he was running, but, buffoonery and all, he's still here more than a year later.
... But, he was playing to the Republican base to win the Republican primary.
Now, he is trying to win swing voters in swing states.... and, though he needs to moderate and start seeming preaidential.... He can't help stepping on his dick. He gave a serious speech last week on the economy... And... has completely killed anything positive from it immediately afterward.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
I am seeing the media start to question whether Trump is even really under IRS audit. That's interesting. I didn't think about it until I started seeing this stuff but the guy does lie just about every time he opens his mouth. What's apparently happening is that he's been asked to produce an IRS letter or something saying he's under audit and he hasn't done it. He's produce letters from his attorney that do not use the term "audit."
Here is an example:
http://www.newsweek.com/where-trump-irs ... ter-488904
He could very easily just produce a letter from the IRS. But he either can not or will not do it. I think the media should start pounding on this. I think they should repeatedly ask him to produce an IRS correspondence saying he's under audit. Shouldn't be difficult for him to do if he's telling the truth.
Either way I think the real truth is he knows if he releases his tax returns it's going to cause issues for him. This crap of saying he can't do it because he's under audit is just that: crap. Nixon did it when he was under audit and running for President.
Here is an example:
http://www.newsweek.com/where-trump-irs ... ter-488904
He could very easily just produce a letter from the IRS. But he either can not or will not do it. I think the media should start pounding on this. I think they should repeatedly ask him to produce an IRS correspondence saying he's under audit. Shouldn't be difficult for him to do if he's telling the truth.
Either way I think the real truth is he knows if he releases his tax returns it's going to cause issues for him. This crap of saying he can't do it because he's under audit is just that: crap. Nixon did it when he was under audit and running for President.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Depends on how many times I pull the lever...SDHornet wrote:You keep talking like your not going to pull the lever for hilldog...that entertains me.houndawg wrote:
I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
That was before she was worth $100,000,000.JohnStOnge wrote:You do realize, right, that she attempted to craft a universal health care program and ended up settling for getting the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) right? And you do realize that she got out of Yale Law School and, instead of going for being in a highly profitable law firm, opted to work for the Children's Defense Fund, right?houndawg wrote: I think you may be having a reading comprehension problem, SD- I think no such thing about Hillary, I've been clear that imo she is a corporatist republican with a veneer of lefty rhetoric, a war monger, and in the pocket of Wall Street and the military industrial complex. Thats why I was in for Bernie long before you young tunnel-vision conservatives had a clue that he was a threat to her.
Look, I do not agree with Clinton's world view. But to fail to recognize her Liberal inclinations is kind of ridiculous given her history. She has always been all in on having pseudo socialist programs and redistribution of income.
Its all window dressing, John.
I'm surprised at you.
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Re: RE: Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton
Illinois Democratshoundawg wrote:Depends on how many times I pull the lever...SDHornet wrote: You keep talking like your not going to pull the lever for hilldog...that entertains me.
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