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Re: Presidential Debate Thread- #1

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Ibanez wrote: You think someone that's worth millions upon millions is bad with money? I see the bankruptcies differently. Often times they are used as a financial tools and don't really mean the individual or company is flat broke. These were businesses not him personally. And it was 4 times that his companies filed Chapter 11. Sometimes its not the person but outside factors. I would imagine the gaming industry isn't an easy one to survive in.


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Wow...
Nobody in the world would argue Donald Trump is "good with money"

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He inherited every penny and has lost more than he's ever made
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"It's not nice." Is Trump being serious right now? :-/
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Wow...
Nobody in the world would argue Donald Trump is "good with money"

:rofl:

He inherited every penny and has lost more than he's ever made
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Nice job Hilldog in Rd 1. Trump needs to do a little more homework for Rd 2.
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Re: Presidential Debate Thread- #1

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93henfan wrote:
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You're better than that... :ohno:
What? I have despised Hillary Clinton for 24 years now. I don't want her back in the White House. How anybody can support her is beyond me. She is a despicable human being. Trump couldn't possibly be as bad.
Don't disagree...and there's a chance that Trump might disrupt the establishment enough to be a positive but neither party deserves the vote of someone politically aware.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Wow...
Nobody in the world would argue Donald Trump is "good with money"

:rofl:

He inherited every penny and has lost more than he's ever made
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Seriously...how do you fuck up a casino?
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93henfan wrote:
What? I have despised Hillary Clinton for 24 years now. I don't want her back in the White House. How anybody can support her is beyond me. She is a despicable human being. Trump couldn't possibly be as bad.
Don't disagree...and there's a chance that Trump might disrupt the establishment enough to be a positive but neither party deserves the vote of someone politically aware.
One of the two people you saw on stage tonight is going to win. I don't want it to be Hillary. She is against a majority of the things I care about. End of story.
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93henfan wrote:Nice job Hilldog in Rd 1. Trump needs to do a little more homework for Rd 2.
Should have hammered her with all the lies on the classified e-mails & Benghazi..
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93henfan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Don't disagree...and there's a chance that Trump might disrupt the establishment enough to be a positive but neither party deserves the vote of someone politically aware.
One of the two people you saw on stage tonight is going to win. I don't want it to be Hillary. She is against a majority of the things I care about. End of story.
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Hard to draw anything from this debate unless you were already in the camp of either candidate - both were as poor as advertised and catered to their own camps. Not a shining moment for either of them, but then again, that's been the case for the past few months.
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kalm wrote:
93henfan wrote:
One of the two people you saw on stage tonight is going to win. I don't want it to be Hillary. She is against a majority of the things I care about. End of story.
Forrest and the trees...
The forest is that Hillary Clinton is against just about everything I care about. You're being obtuse. I'm getting right to the point. Only one person can beat her, so I have to support that person.
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GannonFan wrote:Hard to draw anything from this debate unless you were already in the camp of either candidate - both were as poor as advertised and catered to their own camps. Not a shining moment for either of them, but then again, that's been the case for the past few months.
True, but Hillary came off much sharper and better rehearsed and Trump took her bait and got flustered.

Hence, victory Hillary. She should get a 3-5% bump out of this, but that doesn't mean anything this early.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Link?
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Gotta love partisan media outlets.

Drudge Report, through 16,000 votes, has 92% Trump winning. :rofl:

Now to see what the Clinton News Network says...
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93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Hard to draw anything from this debate unless you were already in the camp of either candidate - both were as poor as advertised and catered to their own camps. Not a shining moment for either of them, but then again, that's been the case for the past few months.
True, but Hillary came off much sharper and better rehearsed and Trump took her bait and got flustered.

Hence, victory Hillary. She should get a 3-5% bump out of this, but that doesn't mean anything this early.
They came off as they have come off through the campaign. She's establishment, he's anti-establishment. It's what they do.
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GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
True, but Hillary came off much sharper and better rehearsed and Trump took her bait and got flustered.

Hence, victory Hillary. She should get a 3-5% bump out of this, but that doesn't mean anything this early.
They came off as they have come off through the campaign. She's establishment, he's anti-establishment. It's what they do.
Exactly. What do the undecideds think? Because if Trump gets a couple good sound bites out of this, do the undecideds know any better?
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GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
True, but Hillary came off much sharper and better rehearsed and Trump took her bait and got flustered.

Hence, victory Hillary. She should get a 3-5% bump out of this, but that doesn't mean anything this early.
They came off as they have come off through the campaign. She's establishment, he's anti-establishment. It's what they do.
Right, but debates are designed so that somebody has their hand raised by the ref at the end and that person was Hillary. That's why I think she gets a small bump.
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CNN is stalking Trump after the debate. He's gotten at least another 15 minutes of debate in unopposed AFTER the debate. :lol:

Hillary nowhere to be found. Probably getting an IV and an enema.
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93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
They came off as they have come off through the campaign. She's establishment, he's anti-establishment. It's what they do.
Right, but debates are designed so that somebody has their hand raised by the ref at the end and that person was Hillary. That's why I think she gets a small bump.
I don't think that happens anymore. People listen to what they already want to listen to. If you're already in one of these camps then you're certainly going to believe that camp won. Trump people are going to love what Trump did, Hillary people are going to love what she did. Doesn't change that it was a mess all over the place.
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GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Right, but debates are designed so that somebody has their hand raised by the ref at the end and that person was Hillary. That's why I think she gets a small bump.
I don't think that happens anymore. People listen to what they already want to listen to. If you're already in one of these camps then you're certainly going to believe that camp won. Trump people are going to love what Trump did, Hillary people are going to love what she did. Doesn't change that it was a mess all over the place.
Totally agree, but there are still some undecideds (as well as Stein and Johnson cute moral standers) out there and some, even if it's only a couple of percent, will certainly gravitate toward Clinton after these 90 minutes. Trump gained nobody. That's all I'm saying.
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93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I don't think that happens anymore. People listen to what they already want to listen to. If you're already in one of these camps then you're certainly going to believe that camp won. Trump people are going to love what Trump did, Hillary people are going to love what she did. Doesn't change that it was a mess all over the place.
Totally agree, but there are still some undecideds (as well as Stein and Johnson cute moral standers) out there and some, even if it's only a couple of percent, will certainly gravitate toward Clinton after these 90 minutes. Trump gained nobody. That's all I'm saying.
Quite possibly, but the debate being over just means the spin is in full speed. Who knows where that goes.
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93henfan wrote:CNN is stalking Trump after the debate. He's gotten at least another 15 minutes of debate in unopposed AFTER the debate. Image

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Trump is up 52 - 48 in the Time online poll. 165K voted as of my casting.
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93henfan wrote:
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Forrest and the trees...
The forest is that Hillary Clinton is against just about everything I care about. You're being obtuse. I'm getting right to the point. Only one person can beat her, so I have to support that person.
I'm guessing she's "for" about 80% of what you care about just like Trump. The one glaring exception I'm guessing would be gun rights. But keep on thinking your vote for either party matters.... :lol:
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SeattleGriz wrote:Trump is up 52 - 48 in the Time online poll. 165K voted as of my casting.
CNN is about to post up a supposedly scientific poll in a few.

I'll wager it goes 59-41 Clinton +/- 5%.
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