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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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Baldy wrote:
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Playing dumb won't get you out of this, crony capitalism lover...

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Says the guy who apparently gave his medical records to Comcast. :lol:
Let me know if I need to splain it to ya... :thumb:
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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Baldy wrote: Says the guy who apparently gave his medical records to Comcast. :lol:
Let me know if I need to splain it to ya... :thumb:
No need to 'splain anything. We all saw you trip over your dick on that one...it was pretty obvious. :nod:
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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Baldy wrote:
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Let me know if I need to splain it to ya... :thumb:
No need to 'splain anything. We all saw you trip over your dick on that one...it was pretty obvious. :nod:
Taking debate lessons from BDK I see. :notworthy:
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Can I sell my own information? I'd love to skip just one tuition payment.
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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Baldy wrote: No need to 'splain anything. We all saw you trip over your dick on that one...it was pretty obvious. :nod:
Taking debate lessons from BDK I see. :notworthy:
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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andy7171 wrote:Can I sell my own information? I'd love to skip just one tuition payment.
You should look into having sponsors and endorsements pay for the weddings.


I bet that's a thing rich people do. :coffee:
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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Baldy wrote:
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Heads up Baldy ... your wrong
J43 repeals the previous ruling that ISP could NOT sell your data
Now there is NOTHING legally against them selling your data

Read closer
There was a law against it
Now there is not

:nod:

ISP are free to act on their own
Not legally obligated to protect

Senator Markey also issued a statement
“Consumers will have no ability to stop Internet service providers from invading their privacy and selling sensitive information about their health, finances, and children to advertisers, insurers, data brokers or others who can profit off of this personal information, all without their affirmative consent.”

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/ ... medium=rss

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He loves people like you

Don't worry: You weren't using your private personal data anyway
So this joint resolution reversed one of Obama's Midnight Regulations. :coffee:
Actually no... ^
But that's how the Republican Senate is selling it
It was in front of wheeler for 9 months

This is Comcast being a top Lobby investor
and the Senate giving them what they want

It's no more complicated than that
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Taking debate lessons from BDK I see. :notworthy:
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: So this joint resolution reversed one of Obama's Midnight Regulations. :coffee:
Actually no... ^
But that's how the Republican Senate is selling it
It was in front of wheeler for 9 months

This is Comcast being a top Lobby investor
and the Senate giving them what they want

It's no more complicated than that
No? :?

You probably need to read your own link then:
The Federal Trade Commission maintains jurisdiction over most aspects of the Internet. But after the 2016 election during the lame-duck session, another Washington agency called the Federal Communications Commission issued new regulations related specifically to Internet service providers, also known as ISPs. (You’ve probably heard of some of the country’s biggest ISPs, which include Comcast, Verizon, AT&T;, Time Warner, Cox, and CenturyLink.)
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Re: Senate passes Res. J34

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derailed by a lurker
Didn't mean to derail. I care about you and your message and I want it as polished as possible.

I don't care about any of the other ways people can get your information and so forth that are already there. This is horseshit pure and simple. Keep up the fight brother. :thumb:
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Responded with another BDK debate lesson: when out of ammo, use the jack emoji.
:suspicious: I wasn't even involved in this debate..
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Ivytalk wrote: Responded with another BDK debate lesson: when out of ammo, use the jack emoji.
:suspicious: I wasn't even involved in this debate..
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Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Actually no... ^
But that's how the Republican Senate is selling it
It was in front of wheeler for 9 months

This is Comcast being a top Lobby investor
and the Senate giving them what they want

It's no more complicated than that
No? :?

You probably need to read your own link then:
The Federal Trade Commission maintains jurisdiction over most aspects of the Internet. But after the 2016 election during the lame-duck session, another Washington agency called the Federal Communications Commission issued new regulations related specifically to Internet service providers, also known as ISPs. (You’ve probably heard of some of the country’s biggest ISPs, which include Comcast, Verizon, AT&T;, Time Warner, Cox, and CenturyLink.)
:coffee:
You're going to need a lot more than that ^ to show that this was the repeal of sh!t legislation...

I take your coffee emoji and double it

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:suspicious: I wasn't even involved in this debate..
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You know, I think it's bad that ISPs want to do this sort of thing. But, you also know, you have the right not to choose an ISP if they want to do that. If enough people said, "I'm not going for that" you would see ISP providers who would say, "we're not going to do that."

If I am an ISP, I have and SHOULD have the right to say "if you want me to be your ISP this is the deal." And you have the right to say, "No thanks."
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JohnStOnge wrote:You know, I think it's bad that ISPs want to do this sort of thing. But, you also know, you have the right not to choose an ISP if they want to do that. If enough people said, "I'm not going for that" you would see ISP providers who would say, "we're not going to do that."

If I am an ISP, I have and SHOULD have the right to say "if you want me to be your ISP this is the deal." And you have the right to say, "No thanks."

Can the cellular phone company record your calls and then sell them without you knowing..?
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Spicer asked how this benefits the public:

Spicer: "We'll have further updates and when we do sign it, we'll have further updates on why."

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"Manipulate what you see" and "Sell it all".... that's the way it is now, isn't it? All my pop up ads are recent searches, keywords on this site, etc... Maybe there's a way to block it, but I'm lazy and stupid when it comes to internet security, like most people. I'm not saying we should allow more, but this seems like old news.

How about this invasion of privacy? If a lender pulls your credit report because you're applying for a loan (or pre-approval) the credit bureaus can sell the information that you've had your credit pulled by a lender to other lenders. So Wells Fargo knows to call you about a mortgage because you're shopping with your bank or lender. I still can't believe that one is allowed, but I know for a fact it is.
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Looks like it's time to for everyone to start setting up their own VPNs. That won't totally protect you but you can at least make it difficult for your ISP to collect your history. Also, keep in mind that any https site you visit limit what an ISP can see. While they can collect the information like the domain name and when you’re visiting, they can't the individual pages you visit or what information you’re sending(packets).

It's not perfect but if this is going to be law, setting up a VPN is a "solution."
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89Hen wrote:"Manipulate what you see" and "Sell it all".... that's the way it is now, isn't it? All my pop up ads are recent searches, keywords on this site, etc... Maybe there's a way to block it, but I'm lazy and stupid when it comes to internet security, like most people. I'm not saying we should allow more, but this seems like old news.

How about this invasion of privacy? If a lender pulls your credit report because you're applying for a loan (or pre-approval) the credit bureaus can sell the information that you've had your credit pulled by a lender to other lenders. So Wells Fargo knows to call you about a mortgage because you're shopping with your bank or lender. I still can't believe that one is allowed, but I know for a fact it is.
I think your confusing the the wonders of internet marketing with Comcast looking at your browser history and selling what they find? You go to 5 site looking for golf clubs, then when you come here you see ads for Ping or Titelist, that's Google AdSense. It's still data collection but, as I understand, it isn't being sold. It's being used to market products.
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89Hen wrote:"Manipulate what you see" and "Sell it all".... that's the way it is now, isn't it? All my pop up ads are recent searches, keywords on this site, etc... Maybe there's a way to block it, but I'm lazy and stupid when it comes to internet security, like most people. I'm not saying we should allow more, but this seems like old news.

How about this invasion of privacy? If a lender pulls your credit report because you're applying for a loan (or pre-approval) the credit bureaus can sell the information that you've had your credit pulled by a lender to other lenders. So Wells Fargo knows to call you about a mortgage because you're shopping with your bank or lender. I still can't believe that one is allowed, but I know for a fact it is.
You could argue that the credit bureaus giving out information that lenders are pulling your credit information is a consumer friendly thing - you may have only looked at one lender when if you were presented with more options you might find a lender that gives you a better deal. That's a good thing, no? Regardless, you don't need to act on other lenders trying to contact you. I just started a new loan and I politely ignored the e-mails and phone calls from other vendors trying to get my business. It wasn't that hard.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Spicer asked how this benefits the public:

Spicer: "We'll have further updates and when we do sign it, we'll have further updates on why."

:lol: :?
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