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Re: Today's Economic Lesson

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Like welfare?
People want to be on welfare?
You think that every recipient would forego welfare for a job?
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kalm wrote:
People want to be on welfare?
You think that every recipient would forego welfare for a job?
That's been proven patently false on multiple occasions.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:
People want to be on welfare?
You think that every recipient would forego welfare for a job?
No, not every. I'm sure there are some outliers like Ganny's family. But I think most welfare recipients aspire to climbing out of the cellar.

I know that disputed a popular conk meme so I understand the consternation in these replies.

Do you think every corporate welfare case would forego government assistance? I'm sure there are loads of businesses who say "thanks, but no thanks" while adjusting their bootstraps...

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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: You think that every recipient would forego welfare for a job?
No, not every. I'm sure there are some outliers like Ganny's family. But I think most welfare recipients aspire to climbing out of the cellar.

I know that disputed a popular conk meme so I understand the consternation in these replies.

Do you think every corporate welfare case would forego government assistance? I'm sure there loads of businesses who say "thanks, but no thanks" while adjusting their bootstraps...

:coffee:
Comparing businesses to welfare recipients? :?
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
People want to be on welfare?
If you call it "guaranteed basic income"

This ^

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kalm wrote:But I think most welfare recipients aspire to climbing out of the cellar.
And most Catholics live by the word of JC.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
If you call it "guaranteed basic income"

This ^

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Zuck inherited the "guaranteed basic income" cheerleader mantle from Milton Friedman?
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kalm wrote:
He's on the Mt Rushmore of full of **** Texas politicians and that's crowed list!

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

This ^

:lol:
It's going to be a major platform item in the 2020 campaign

Zuckerberg is its cheerleader
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It's going to be a major platform item in the 2020 campaign

Zuckerberg is its cheerleader
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque
And how's that $15 minimum wage thing working out?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It's going to be a major platform item in the 2020 campaign

Zuckerberg is its cheerleader
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque

If you let the Repukes have it, they would pay people $2 per hour :coffee:
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mrklean wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque

If you let the Repukes have it, they would pay people $2 per hour :coffee:
Do you really think people would work for $2 per hour?
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mrklean wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque

If you let the Repukes have it, they would pay people $2 per hour :coffee:
You've said you ran a business, at least I think you did...

If its true, that statement is one of the dumbest you have ever made...and that's going pretty far...

Any Republican/conservative (there is sometimes a big difference) operating a business and wanting to succeed will pay what ever the prevailing wage is in their area to succeed...minimum wages aside,..

$15 an hour nationally is a total economic joke...in NYC, or ATL, it may not be enough...but get out into other parts of the country, and its way too much...

A good business operator will pay more than minimum wage if its necessary to attract better employees than their nearest competitor...

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Col Hogan wrote:
mrklean wrote:

If you let the Repukes have it, they would pay people $2 per hour :coffee:
You've said you ran a business, at least I think you did...

If its true, that statement is one of the dumbest you have ever made...and that's going pretty far...

Any Republican/conservative (there is sometimes a big difference) operating a business and wanting to succeed will pay what ever the prevailing wage is in their area to succeed...minimum wages aside,..

$15 an hour nationally is a total economic joke...in NYC, or ATL, it may not be enough...but get out into other parts of the country, and its way too much...

A good business operator will pay more than minimum wage if its necessary to attract better employees than their nearest competitor...

:coffee:

Yes I do operate a business. However, I'm the only employee. People should earn a living wage. You would not work for $2/HR. But its ok for someone else to make that. So Typical :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mrklean wrote:

If you let the Repukes have it, they would pay people $2 per hour :coffee:
Do you really think people would work for $2 per hour?
There are some people in ATL. who make $6 per HR. That is a freaking joke :thumbdown:
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mrklean wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
You've said you ran a business, at least I think you did...

If its true, that statement is one of the dumbest you have ever made...and that's going pretty far...

Any Republican/conservative (there is sometimes a big difference) operating a business and wanting to succeed will pay what ever the prevailing wage is in their area to succeed...minimum wages aside,..

$15 an hour nationally is a total economic joke...in NYC, or ATL, it may not be enough...but get out into other parts of the country, and its way too much...

A good business operator will pay more than minimum wage if its necessary to attract better employees than their nearest competitor...

:coffee:

Yes I do operate a business. However, I'm the only employee.
Translation: I don't have any real experience as an employer.
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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Do you really think people would work for $2 per hour?
There are some people in ATL. who make $6 per HR. That is a freaking joke :thumbdown:
Don't you wonder why?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque
And how's that $15 minimum wage thing working out?
Fine for me
Washington State has the #1 economy in the United States...
Everything is BOOMING

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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Do you really think people would work for $2 per hour?
There are some people in ATL. who make $6 per HR. That is a freaking joke :thumbdown:

I'm sure those are educated, trained people...
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It's going to be a major platform item in the 2020 campaign

Zuckerberg is its cheerleader
Hey at least in Seattle you technically have to have a job to get $15 an hour...
But this... This is hilarious

If you think Republican heads exploded over $15 minimum wage (and they did)
Wait till you see the implosion happen over this !!!

:lol:

And there's no coming back from this cliff
once the poor and unemployable and capitalism haters catch wind of this
the momentum will be tsunami-esque
YEP yep YEP

That's why I trotted it out.

Before we get to 2020 it is going to be viewed as a "right" and anyone opposed to it is going to be in favor of letting children starve and die


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Zuck inherited the "guaranteed basic income" cheerleader mantle from Milton Friedman?
You mean a long-dead guy who won't be running for President?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here
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mrklean wrote:

People should earn a living wage. You would not work for $2/HR. But its ok for someone else to make that. So Typical :coffee:
I don't think anyone would argue that people shouldn't do work to earn a living wage. The question that comes up, however, is what work is worth a living wage? If someone advertises work for $2/hr, that's only too low if there aren't any takers for that $2/hr job. You set the price at the level of 1) what you can afford and 2) the skill of employee you need for the job and 3) what the market will bear. But it's up to the job seeker to find the job(s) that they can work that fits their lives and pays them what they need to have a living wage. If that $2/hr job involves little skill and little creativity, then it could be priced correctly. And likely, it's not the job that someone looking for a living wage should consider. If that's all that you can do as a worker, well, it's time to get some better skills.
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CID1990 wrote: You mean a long-dead guy who won't be running for President?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here
That it's not just some liberal kum-ba-yah.
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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Do you really think people would work for $2 per hour?
There are some people in ATL. who make $6 per HR. That is a freaking joke :thumbdown:
What jobs are paying $6/hr?

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