As the Republican Congress has learned... it's easy to criticize (I don't think Obamacare is perfect. Obama doesn't think Obamacare is perfect)... more difficult to come up with a better solution.
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Ok, does she go into detail about which parts she thinks are bad how to best remedy it?
As the Republican Congress has learned... it's easy to criticize (I don't think Obamacare is perfect. Obama doesn't think Obamacare is perfect)... more difficult to come up with a better solution.
As the Republican Congress has learned... it's easy to criticize (I don't think Obamacare is perfect. Obama doesn't think Obamacare is perfect)... more difficult to come up with a better solution.
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Re: Right-wing Pundit Tomi Lahren admits she benefits from Obamacare during debate at Policon
Yeah, of course the ones that she benefits from aren't bad.89Hen wrote:I will go back to my original post on this thread..... And..?Skjellyfetti wrote:
Clearly she sees the option to stay on her parent's plan as a good option for her and chose to do that. Thanks Obamacare!
Cripes you guys are desperate.Lahren said. “To say there are things from Obamacare that are not positive, that’s not true.”
She said most Republicans and Trump supporters “don’t believe that every single tenet of Obamacare is bad.
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She's also pro choice.Skjellyfetti wrote:She should definitely take advantage of the best option available to her. Her best option available to her is provided by Obamacare regulations.Baldy wrote:
Kinda like it isn't mandated that you take tax deductions or tax credits on your 1040. You're crazy if you don't take advantage of both systems.
Clearly she sees the option to stay on her parent's plan as a good option for her and chose to do that. Thanks Obamacare!
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I love the caveats and roundabout defenses of this abortion of a law
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I'd argue Obamacare is looking more brilliant every day. Not brilliant policy of course, but brilliant politics.
It's basically a ticking time bomb and either it's going to blow up in Republican's faces as they try to defuse it or the clock runs down and we end up with a donk president and congress that will give us a significantly more liberal health care system, if not single payer (which in turn will never be repealed).
The idea that health care costs are out of control and that something needs to be done should be a bipartisan issue but it's not and the GOP is content to either pay a very high political cost for a repeal or wait and let donks down the road say "seeee, I told you back in 2009 we needed a public option".
It's basically a ticking time bomb and either it's going to blow up in Republican's faces as they try to defuse it or the clock runs down and we end up with a donk president and congress that will give us a significantly more liberal health care system, if not single payer (which in turn will never be repealed).
The idea that health care costs are out of control and that something needs to be done should be a bipartisan issue but it's not and the GOP is content to either pay a very high political cost for a repeal or wait and let donks down the road say "seeee, I told you back in 2009 we needed a public option".
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No matter how you slice it Tomi having to admit she is on her parents' insurance due to the ACA makes her look bad in a debate like that.
Having said that I believe in living in the world as it is. It shouldn't stop you from arguing that it should be different. Like, for instance, I intend to collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but at the same time if I had my way both of those programs would be phased out.
I would rather have not paid Social Security and Medicare taxes over my lifetime and been given the opportunity to plan for my own future while keeping that money. And I think that it's just fundamentally wrong to force people to participate in programs like that.
But with the system being what it is I am sure as heck going to take the money and the benefits. And I don't see that as being hypocritical.
Having said that I believe in living in the world as it is. It shouldn't stop you from arguing that it should be different. Like, for instance, I intend to collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but at the same time if I had my way both of those programs would be phased out.
I would rather have not paid Social Security and Medicare taxes over my lifetime and been given the opportunity to plan for my own future while keeping that money. And I think that it's just fundamentally wrong to force people to participate in programs like that.
But with the system being what it is I am sure as heck going to take the money and the benefits. And I don't see that as being hypocritical.
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Re: Right-wing Pundit Tomi Lahren admits she benefits from Obamacare during debate at Policon
Do you mind rephrasing the second paragraph of this post? Because it makes no sense.JohnStOnge wrote:No matter how you slice it Tomi having to admit she is on her parents' insurance due to the ACA makes her look bad in a debate like that.
Having said that I believe in living in the world as it is. It shouldn't stop you from arguing that it should be different. Like, for instance, I intend to collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but that the same time if I had my wife both of those programs would be phased out.
I would rather have not paid Social Security and Medicare taxes over my lifetime and been given the opportunity to plan for my own future while keeping that money. And I think that it's just fundamentally wrong to force people to participate in programs like that.
But with the system being what it is I am sure as heck going to take the money and the benefits. And I don't see that as being hypocritical.
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How could it be hypocritical? It's YOUR money!JohnStOnge wrote:No matter how you slice it Tomi having to admit she is on her parents' insurance due to the ACA makes her look bad in a debate like that.
Having said that I believe in living in the world as it is. It shouldn't stop you from arguing that it should be different. Like, for instance, I intend to collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but at the same time if I had my way both of those programs would be phased out.
I would rather have not paid Social Security and Medicare taxes over my lifetime and been given the opportunity to plan for my own future while keeping that money. And I think that it's just fundamentally wrong to force people to participate in programs like that.
But with the system being what it is I am sure as heck going to take the money and the benefits. And I don't see that as being hypocritical.
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Re: Right-wing Pundit Tomi Lahren admits she benefits from Obamacare during debate at Policon
This and Pwns' post above it are spot on.JohnStOnge wrote:No matter how you slice it Tomi having to admit she is on her parents' insurance due to the ACA makes her look bad in a debate like that.
Having said that I believe in living in the world as it is. It shouldn't stop you from arguing that it should be different. Like, for instance, I intend to collect Social Security and benefit from Medicare but at the same time if I had my way both of those programs would be phased out.
I would rather have not paid Social Security and Medicare taxes over my lifetime and been given the opportunity to plan for my own future while keeping that money. And I think that it's just fundamentally wrong to force people to participate in programs like that.
But with the system being what it is I am sure as heck going to take the money and the benefits. And I don't see that as being hypocritical.
Other than for those uninsurable with pre-existing conditions, has the ACA done anything to reduce costs overall?
Washington State prohibited denial for pre-existing conditions over 20 years ago.
And yes there's a bit of hypocrisy here but why not take advantage? Even if young adults can stay on their parents plan longer, their share of premiums are still going into the system, no?
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Re: Right-wing Pundit Tomi Lahren admits she benefits from Obamacare during debate at Policon
I don't see how Tomi saying she's under her parents insurance is a bad thing for her, she's not 26 so why not?
That doesn't preclude her from criticizing the plan. I'm on an employer plan, not Obamacare & I pay over $21K per year for healthcare. Yet, all I hear from the Beltway is focus on individual plans (which are the minority versus employer plans) and nothing basically on coast containment. Meanwhile, the rest of the country gets dicked with substantial increases every year. And the Democrats wonder why they've basically lost every election minus the Presidency since 2010...
That doesn't preclude her from criticizing the plan. I'm on an employer plan, not Obamacare & I pay over $21K per year for healthcare. Yet, all I hear from the Beltway is focus on individual plans (which are the minority versus employer plans) and nothing basically on coast containment. Meanwhile, the rest of the country gets dicked with substantial increases every year. And the Democrats wonder why they've basically lost every election minus the Presidency since 2010...
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Skjellyfetti wrote:She should definitely take advantage of the best option available to her. Her best option available to her is provided by Obamacare regulations.Baldy wrote:
Kinda like it isn't mandated that you take tax deductions or tax credits on your 1040. You're crazy if you don't take advantage of both systems.
Clearly she sees the option to stay on her parent's plan as a good option for her and chose to do that. Thanks Obamacare!
It's really her only option.
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You guys have lost this one. Move on.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah, of course the ones that she benefits from aren't bad.89Hen wrote: I will go back to my original post on this thread..... And..?
Cripes you guys are desperate.

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89Hen wrote:You guys have lost this one. Move on.Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, of course the ones that she benefits from aren't bad.
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Even kalm won't side with you. It's over.Grizalltheway wrote:89Hen wrote: You guys have lost this one. Move on.![]()

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There you go bud! Keep repeating it until it's true! 
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bluehenbillk wrote:I don't see how Tomi saying she's under her parents insurance is a bad thing for her, she's not 26 so why not?
That doesn't preclude her from criticizing the plan. I'm on an employer plan, not Obamacare & I pay over $21K per year for healthcare. Yet, all I hear from the Beltway is focus on individual plans (which are the minority versus employer plans) and nothing basically on coast containment. Meanwhile, the rest of the country gets dicked with substantial increases every year. And the Democrats wonder why they've basically lost every election minus the Presidency since 2010...
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Grizalltheway wrote:There you go bud! Keep repeating it until it's true!
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Just like repeating someone is from Fargo and they are not.dbackjon wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:There you go bud! Keep repeating it until it's true!
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If weetag and Jon are the only ones still chirping, I know I'm in the right.dbackjon wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:There you go bud! Keep repeating it until it's true!
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We're the only ones masochistic enough to keep engaging your smarmy ass.89Hen wrote:If weetag and Jon are the only ones still chirping, I know I'm in the right.dbackjon wrote:
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Meh. It's all a clever ruse to make myself sound more centrist.89Hen wrote:Even kalm won't side with you. It's over.Grizalltheway wrote:![]()
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*Rooskalm wrote:Meh. It's all a clever ruse to make myself sound more centrist.89Hen wrote: Even kalm won't side with you. It's over.
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*not clever at allCAA Flagship wrote:*Rooskalm wrote:
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Gil, isn't Mapleton a suburb of the Fargo Moorhead Metropolitan area? So while it may not literally be Fargo it is a part of Greater Fargo. Kind of like how Bloomington, Roseville, Maple Grove, etc. are part of the Twin Cities.Gil Dobie wrote:Just like repeating someone is from Fargo and they are not.dbackjon wrote: I think 89 actually works for Faux
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The metro area includes all of Cass and Clay counties. Mapleton is a distinct town that was founded in 1875. Is Van Meter, IA considered Des Moines? It's in the Des Moines Metro area, but I don't look at it as Des Moines. It's Bob Fellers hometown and a distinct town.UNI88 wrote:Gil, isn't Mapleton a suburb of the Fargo Moorhead Metropolitan area? So while it may not literally be Fargo it is a part of Greater Fargo. Kind of like how Bloomington, Roseville, Maple Grove, etc. are part of the Twin Cities.Gil Dobie wrote:
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