Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Political discussions
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

houndawg wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Maybe she didn't. Maybe she was just messing with his head.
She did a good job.
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
93henfan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 56358
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Location: Slower Delaware

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by 93henfan »

JohnStOnge wrote:
houndawg wrote:
..she's so smart why did she think she was pregnant? :coffee:
Maybe she didn't. Maybe she was just messing with his head.
That’s what I was thinking. If you’re trying to ruin a career, why not lie to see if you can capture the money text? At least she didn’t try to blackmail him once she got it.
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by CID1990 »

JohnStOnge wrote:
houndawg wrote:
She did a good job.
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
knock me over with a goddamn feather JSO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7344
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by Pwns »

JohnStOnge wrote:
houndawg wrote:
She did a good job.
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
A lot of people seem to think psychologists can perform mind tricks on them and somehow see through to their insecurities or personalty flaws based on how they tie their shoes, but it's just not true. It's just not a well-developed science and it has serious problems replicability.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 36305
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by BDKJMU »

JohnStOnge wrote:
houndawg wrote:
..she's so smart why did she think she was pregnant? :coffee:
Maybe she didn't. Maybe she was just messing with his head.
Bingo..
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by CID1990 »

If she was smarter she'd be a man.

/thread


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25090
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by houndawg »

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
knock me over with a goddamn feather JSO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
:rofl:

Psychiatrists, otoh, would love to chat with his ass..
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25090
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by houndawg »

Pwns wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
A lot of people seem to think psychologists can perform mind tricks on them and somehow see through to their insecurities or personalty flaws based on how they tie their shoes, but it's just not true. It's just not a well-developed science and it has serious problems replicability.
It's not a science at all.
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25090
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by houndawg »

93henfan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Maybe she didn't. Maybe she was just messing with his head.
That’s what I was thinking. If you’re trying to ruin a career, why not lie to see if you can capture the money text? At least she didn’t try to blackmail him once she got it.
The dumb fvck should have seen it coming given what he probably thinks of women. :coffee:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25090
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by houndawg »

CID1990 wrote:If she was smarter she'd be a man.

/thread


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
She still has her career. And the book... :coffee:
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

Pwns wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Never have an affair with a psychologist. I sure as heck wouldn't. I mean even when I was single. I would not want a relationship with a psychologist.
A lot of people seem to think psychologists can perform mind tricks on them and somehow see through to their insecurities or personalty flaws based on how they tie their shoes, but it's just not true. It's just not a well-developed science and it has serious problems replicability.
I would call it a soft science. But if someone is a psychologist they are going to be trained to systematically analyze and anticipate behavior.

If there was nothing to it businesses would not waste their money on advertising.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
AZGrizFan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59959
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
Location: Just to the right of center

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by AZGrizFan »

JohnStOnge wrote:
Pwns wrote:
A lot of people seem to think psychologists can perform mind tricks on them and somehow see through to their insecurities or personalty flaws based on how they tie their shoes, but it's just not true. It's just not a well-developed science and it has serious problems replicability.
I would call it a soft science. But if someone is a psychologist they are going to be trained to systematically analyze and anticipate behavior.

If there was nothing to it businesses would not waste their money on advertising.
50% of our marketing budget is wasted. Now if I could only figure out which 50% it is. :coffee:
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
Image
User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7344
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by Pwns »

JohnStOnge wrote:
Pwns wrote:
A lot of people seem to think psychologists can perform mind tricks on them and somehow see through to their insecurities or personalty flaws based on how they tie their shoes, but it's just not true. It's just not a well-developed science and it has serious problems replicability.
I would call it a soft science. But if someone is a psychologist they are going to be trained to systematically analyze and anticipate behavior.

If there was nothing to it businesses would not waste their money on advertising.
That means nothing to me. Many employers spend money on patented "personality tests" that they claim can help weed out bad employees. Those things are less than worthless.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by CID1990 »

Pwns wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I would call it a soft science. But if someone is a psychologist they are going to be trained to systematically analyze and anticipate behavior.

If there was nothing to it businesses would not waste their money on advertising.
That means nothing to me. Many employers spend money on patented "personality tests" that they claim can help weed out bad employees. Those things are less than worthless.
Police departments around the country spend scads of money trying to find that magic bullet. My department relied on the MMPI for years. It's all wasted money.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEB ... p-3-53.pdf
PSYOP are an integral part of military operations and, as such,
are an inherent responsibility of all military commanders. There
are three categories of military PSYOP, strategic, operational,
and tactical, which are used to establish and reinforce foreign
perceptions of US military, political, and economic power and
resolve. Strategic PSYOP are international information activities
conducted by US Government (USG) agencies to influence
foreign attitudes, perceptions, and behavior in favor of US goals
and objectives during peacetime and in times of conflict.
You guys need to let the military know that what they're doing is a waste of money.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by CID1990 »

JohnStOnge wrote:http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEB ... p-3-53.pdf
PSYOP are an integral part of military operations and, as such,
are an inherent responsibility of all military commanders. There
are three categories of military PSYOP, strategic, operational,
and tactical, which are used to establish and reinforce foreign
perceptions of US military, political, and economic power and
resolve. Strategic PSYOP are international information activities
conducted by US Government (USG) agencies to influence
foreign attitudes, perceptions, and behavior in favor of US goals
and objectives during peacetime and in times of conflict.
You guys need to let the military know that what they're doing is a waste of money.
Are you intentionally being a moron?

Non sequitur


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEB ... p-3-53.pdf



You guys need to let the military know that what they're doing is a waste of money.
Are you intentionally being a moron?

Non sequitur


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Whatever. Psychology is a soft science with many imperfections but it is a science. The study of human behavior and human response is a powerful tool. And it is a powerful tool that is frequently utilized.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7344
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by Pwns »

What kind of psychological principles are used in psy-ops? Is it stuff about manipulating people that pretty much any average person understands?

If I wanted an example of where Bernoulli's Equation is used in some practical application, I don't want a waterwheel.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
User avatar
CID1990
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25486
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
I am a fan of: Pie
A.K.A.: CID 1990
Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by CID1990 »

JohnStOnge wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Are you intentionally being a moron?

Non sequitur


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Whatever. Psychology is a soft science with many imperfections but it is a science. The study of human behavior and human response is a powerful tool. And it is a powerful tool that is frequently utilized.
You are talking about what amounts to propaganda and persuasion in the military/strategic sense.

I am talking about using check box surveys to predict peoples' future behavior.

Two different things altogether.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
houndawg
Level5
Level5
Posts: 25090
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
I am a fan of: SIU
A.K.A.: houndawg
Location: Egypt

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by houndawg »

JohnStOnge wrote:http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEB ... p-3-53.pdf
PSYOP are an integral part of military operations and, as such,
are an inherent responsibility of all military commanders. There
are three categories of military PSYOP, strategic, operational,
and tactical, which are used to establish and reinforce foreign
perceptions of US military, political, and economic power and
resolve. Strategic PSYOP are international information activities
conducted by US Government (USG) agencies to influence
foreign attitudes, perceptions, and behavior in favor of US goals
and objectives during peacetime and in times of conflict.
You guys need to let the military know that what they're doing is a waste of money.
Military waste money? Thats crazy talk, son...
You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.


"I really love America. I just don't know how to get there anymore."John Prine
User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7344
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by Pwns »

The science of Psychology is a perfect case study in the limitations of studies (versus experiments), on the limits of peer review, and the pitfalls of not understanding statistical logic (search for "replication crisis in psychology"). In other words, a lot of the stuff about science JSO complains about.

Don't know why he is is defending psychology. :?
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20316
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: Anti-Abortion Congressman urged mistress to explore abortion options

Post by JohnStOnge »

Pwns wrote:The science of Psychology is a perfect case study in the limitations of studies (versus experiments), on the limits of peer review, and the pitfalls of not understanding statistical logic (search for "replication crisis in psychology"). In other words, a lot of the stuff about science JSO complains about.

Don't know why he is is defending psychology. :?
There are different levels of certainty. But that doesn't mean that the inability to conduct controlled experiments rules out offering predictability that's obviously better than random chance. Meteorology is an example. We rely on weather forecasts all the time. They are imperfect. Many times we come away thinking they are "wrong." Controlled experiments are not possible. But they clearly have value.

Like for instance I make decisions about fishing trips based on predictions about when fronts are going to come through and when winds are going to shift to the North. And it clearly works a lot better than just ignoring the weather forecasts and showing up.

Besides, there is some controlled experimentation in psychology. Here is one discussion of that:

https://www.simplypsychology.org/experi ... ethod.html

I think there is actually more opportunity for controlled experimentation in psychology than there is in meteorology or climate science.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
Post Reply