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Where was your fake outrage then muthafucker?
If you don't see the connotation between calling a black person an ape and the historical racist imagery involved, I don't know what to tell you. It's imagery specifically made to dehumanize an entire race of people over multiple generations and it's still used today. Roseanne's comment is particularly bad because it directly attributes Valerie Jarrett's existence to an an Ape (and Muslim Brotherhood).

That image above is just comparing Trump with buffoonery.
Equality or fuck off. Quit moving the goalline.

It's bullshit either way and the left bringing race into this is more disgusting than whatever original intent you are trying to sell.

It's not a black or white thing it's an American thing.

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Absolutely true. Blacks are the most racist of all. And their racism is accepted.
No it's not, I won't let it be

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Absolutely true. Blacks are the most racist of all. And their racism is accepted.
That douchebag is the biggest panderer of all. I live i SA and I fucking HATE the Spurs...mostly because of that blowhard.
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BDKJMU wrote: I bet you there's a lot of women who will beg to differ..
BDK is right.

That is the worst insult you can give a woman, John. If you don't believe me, ask your wife.

No double standard there....at all....whatsoever...none...nope. :coffee:
I know it's a big insult to call a woman a cunt. But, to me, if you've been watching what's been going on in our culture, virtually NOTHING rises to the level of calling a Black person an ape or monkey or something like that. There's just no way someone doing that or perceived as doing that is going to keep their job.
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I'd argue that it's not vulgarity - calling a woman what she called her is pretty much as demeaning to women as a gender (or sex? Can't keep all that straight anymore) as racism is to minorities. Keith Olberman using the f-word when talking about Trump is vulgarity, that's mild stuff. Calling her the c-word, well, that's far more that just being vulgar.

It varies with culture. Some cultures are offended by the word "cunt, some cultures are offended by schoolchildren being slaughtered with assault weapons in their classrooms. Its a relativity thing. :coffee:
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Where was your fake outrage then muthafucker?
If you don't see the connotation between calling a black person an ape and the historical racist imagery involved, I don't know what to tell you. It's imagery specifically made to dehumanize an entire race of people over multiple generations and it's still used today. Roseanne's comment is particularly bad because it directly attributes Valerie Jarrett's existence to an an Ape (and Muslim Brotherhood).

That image above is just comparing Trump with buffoonery.
I agree that calling an African American an ape is worse than calling a Caucasian an ape. But just because it's worse does not make comparing Dubya to a chimp or Trump to an orangutan ok. It certainly doesn't make it ok for anyone to call a woman a cvnt. Rather than rationalizing why your side's comments are acceptable and the other side's aren't, why don't we agree that they're all bad?
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UNI88 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
If you don't see the connotation between calling a black person an ape and the historical racist imagery involved, I don't know what to tell you. It's imagery specifically made to dehumanize an entire race of people over multiple generations and it's still used today. Roseanne's comment is particularly bad because it directly attributes Valerie Jarrett's existence to an an Ape (and Muslim Brotherhood).

That image above is just comparing Trump with buffoonery.
I agree that calling an African American an ape is worse than calling a Caucasian an ape. But just because it's worse does not make comparing Dubya to a chimp or Trump to an orangutan ok. It certainly doesn't make it ok for anyone to call a woman a cvnt. Rather than rationalizing why your side's comments are acceptable and the other side's aren't, why don't we agree that they're all bad?
Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. :lol:
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Re: Roseanne Show Cancelled

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AZGrizFan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
I agree that calling an African American an ape is worse than calling a Caucasian an ape. But just because it's worse does not make comparing Dubya to a chimp or Trump to an orangutan ok. It certainly doesn't make it ok for anyone to call a woman a cvnt. Rather than rationalizing why your side's comments are acceptable and the other side's aren't, why don't we agree that they're all bad?
Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. :lol:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
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Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. :lol:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Maybe you can get together with JSO and establish a sliding scale with which we can judge levels of cvntitude in the future

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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. :lol:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Says the kid who’s never been with a woman and called her a cunt and seen the visceral reaction. :rofl:

You don’t get to define which is worse.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
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Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. Image
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Comparing Jarrett to an ape is worse than comparing Dubya to a chimp or Trump to an orangutan but saying it is worse than calling a woman a cvnt is completely subjective. Could your opinion be influenced by your religious background? It sucks to be stereotyped.

They're all reprehensible and the equivalent of arguing that so-and-so started it after a playground fight. We need to stop being children, act like adults and stand up to the bullies on both sides of the aisle. And make no mistake about it, Trump, Roseanne, Bee, Olbermann, etc. are bullies who rely on childish insults.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Says the kid who’s never been with a woman and called her a cunt and seen the visceral reaction. :rofl:

You don’t get to define which is worse.
I have called a woman a cunt during an argument and was very disappointed in the lack of reaction. :(
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One of my favorite Billy Connolly clips - he puts “cunt” in context.

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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Because that’s not the way this game works, bro. :lol:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
See the comment about the Gloria Steinem "one free grope" trope.

That's you, Trippppp

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Re: Roseanne Show Cancelled

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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Says the kid who’s never been with a woman and called her a cunt and seen the visceral reaction. :rofl:

You don’t get to define which is worse.
I don't, but it's fairly clear the public has spoken. And so did the TV execs. No one's saying Bee's comment wasn't bad, but it's not collectively seen as "worse" than Barr's Twitter rant.

Bee was commenting on Ivanka’s mother/son photo as Trump's immigration policies separate families. Barr used a racist trope about a black woman pointing nothing out except being racist.

If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Says the kid who’s never been with a woman and called her a cunt and seen the visceral reaction. :rofl:

You don’t get to define which is worse.
I don't, but it's fairly clear the public has spoken. And so did the TV execs. No one's saying Bee's comment wasn't bad, but it's not collectively seen as "worse" than Barr's Twitter rant.

Bee was commenting on Ivanka’s mother/son photo as Trump's immigration policies separate families. Barr used a racist trope about a black woman pointing nothing out except being racist.

If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
I think it's the sliding scale that is pissing people off. It's ok to calla woman a cunt (I thought liberals didn't want to label women like that) but it's not ok to be racist.

Neither is acceptable. Let's not say, " Oh this is better than that". THAT is bullshit.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Says the kid who’s never been with a woman and called her a cunt and seen the visceral reaction. :rofl:

You don’t get to define which is worse.
Agree

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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I don't, but it's fairly clear the public has spoken. And so did the TV execs. No one's saying Bee's comment wasn't bad, but it's not collectively seen as "worse" than Barr's Twitter rant.

Bee was commenting on Ivanka’s mother/son photo as Trump's immigration policies separate families. Barr used a racist trope about a black woman pointing nothing out except being racist.

If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
I think it's the sliding scale that is pissing people off. It's ok to calla woman a cunt (I thought liberals didn't want to label women like that) but it's not ok to be racist.

Neither is acceptable. Let's not say, " Oh this is better than that". THAT is bullshit.
Blacks are making it ok to be racist, in fact they are making a lot of people that never used to care into people they should be very affraid of. My guess is that it's all the constant crying.

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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I don't, but it's fairly clear the public has spoken. And so did the TV execs. No one's saying Bee's comment wasn't bad, but it's not collectively seen as "worse" than Barr's Twitter rant.

Bee was commenting on Ivanka’s mother/son photo as Trump's immigration policies separate families. Barr used a racist trope about a black woman pointing nothing out except being racist.

If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
I think it's the sliding scale that is pissing people off. It's ok to calla woman a cunt (I thought liberals didn't want to label women like that) but it's not ok to be racist.

Neither is acceptable. Let's not say, " Oh this is better than that". THAT is bullshit.
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UNI88 wrote:
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Or you can read what I wrote in this thread:

One is being a straight up racist for the sake of racism, and the other is throwing an extremely lazy insult while trying to make a grander point about Ivanka's morality.

Neither is ok, but the former is certainly worst than the latter.
Comparing Jarrett to an ape is worse than comparing Dubya to a chimp or Trump to an orangutan but saying it is worse than calling a woman a cvnt is completely subjective. Could your opinion be influenced by your religious background? It sucks to be stereotyped.

They're all reprehensible and the equivalent of arguing that so-and-so started it after a playground fight. We need to stop being children, act like adults and stand up to the bullies on both sides of the aisle. And make no mistake about it, Trump, Roseanne, Bee, Olbermann, etc. are bullies who rely on childish insults.

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If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
Well, to the people that think one way (hard core Republicans), they don't see it as a false equivalency and they are buying it. For people that think the other way (hard core Democrats) they see it as a clear false equivalency and they are not buying it. Welcome to politics today.
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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I don't, but it's fairly clear the public has spoken. And so did the TV execs. No one's saying Bee's comment wasn't bad, but it's not collectively seen as "worse" than Barr's Twitter rant.

Bee was commenting on Ivanka’s mother/son photo as Trump's immigration policies separate families. Barr used a racist trope about a black woman pointing nothing out except being racist.

If anyone wants to sell the false equivalency, it's their call. But most people aren't buying.
I think it's the sliding scale that is pissing people off. It's ok to calla woman a cunt (I thought liberals didn't want to label women like that) but it's not ok to be racist.

Neither is acceptable. Let's not say, " Oh this is better than that". THAT is bullshit.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I think it's the sliding scale that is pissing people off. It's ok to calla woman a cunt (I thought liberals didn't want to label women like that) but it's not ok to be racist.

Neither is acceptable. Let's not say, " Oh this is better than that". THAT is bullshit.
Did you ever notice that men don’t call women assholes, but women call other women assholes? :?
I've never heard a woman call another woman an asshole. Hooker, whore, bitch, and cunt are not that uncommon. But I do appreciate a good gender slur appropriation as in "Ivy League frat boys? What a bunch of stupid cunts."

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Ivytalk wrote: Did you ever notice that men don’t call women assholes, but women call other women assholes? :?
I've never heard a woman call another woman an asshole. Hooker, whore, bitch, and cunt are not that uncommon. But I do appreciate a good gender slur appropriation as in "Ivy League frat boys? What a bunch of stupid cunts."

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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
I've never heard a woman call another woman an asshole. Hooker, whore, bitch, and cunt are not that uncommon. But I do appreciate a good gender slur appropriation as in "Ivy League frat boys? What a bunch of stupid cunts."

:mrgreen:
Our daughter went to a women’s college, and they do. :nod:
It's actually horrifying what women call each other
and they sincerely mean it with all their heart !!!

Whereas every time I call kalm an asshole I only mean it a little bit

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I'm making a pinching gesture to show the insignificance with which I mean kalm is an asshole
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