And Trump didn’t even enter office until almost a month into the 1st qtr 2017, so that chart only shows his 1st 4 full quarters. So really 3 of his 1st 4 full quarters are higher than 9 of the previous 10..AZGrizFan wrote:And three of Trumps 5 quarters are higher than 8 of the 9 previous quarters heading into his presidency.JohnStOnge wrote:
The question isn't whether or not the current recovery is slow. It's whether the estimates indicate anything changed with Trump taking office. Here is a graph of annual real GDP growth from https://www.statista.com/statistics/188 ... ince-1990/:
There's no indication there that things changed when Trump took office. Yes, 2017 was higher than 2016. But it was well within the range of variation since the "great recession." The growth rate for 2017 was 4th among the 8 years following the big dip in 2009.
You can also look at it quarterly. Here's a graph of that from https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm:
I don't think that shows any big "upswing" from the pattern. In fact, I think the first five quarters indicated on the graph were on balance better than the last five quarters that are the quarters since Trump took office.
There just isn't any indication of the con Trump and his people are trying to establish. There is no support for believing that things were awful then all of a sudden they improved dramatically and things are "great again" now that Trump is in office.
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Of course. I disagree with almost everything he says.kalm wrote:You disagree with JSO’s point?Ivytalk wrote:Watching JSO attempt to joust with Flaggy and AZ about economics is like watching a slow-mo replay of Pickett's Charge.
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So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years?Ivytalk wrote:Of course. I disagree with almost everything he says.kalm wrote:
You disagree with JSO’s point?
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Go back and read Flaggy’s post.kalm wrote:So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years?Ivytalk wrote: Of course. I disagree with almost everything he says.
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CAA Flagship wrote:Ivytalk wrote:Watching JSO attempt to joust with Flaggy and AZ about economics is like watching a slow-mo replay of Pickett's Charge.
And Klam.
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JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.Ivytalk wrote:Go back and read Flaggy’s post.kalm wrote:
So we can't blame Carter for Reagan's first two years?
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'.
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Fair enough.kalm wrote:JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.Ivytalk wrote: Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'.
But UNI88 isn’t my favorite moderate on this board.
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Ha! In your face Ganny!Ivytalk wrote:Fair enough.kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
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Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.kalm wrote:Ha! In your face Ganny!Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.
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Moderate?!?!Ivytalk wrote:Fair enough.kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'.
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And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill.89Hen wrote:Moderate?!?!Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.
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Kalm down, bub.kalm wrote:Ha! In your face Ganny!Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.
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I believe he won Mr. Curmudgeon. Give him the respect he is due.Ivytalk wrote:And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill.89Hen wrote: Moderate?!?!![]()
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Smart ass implies intelligence......Ibanez wrote:I believe he won Mr. Curmudgeon. Give him the respect he is due.Ivytalk wrote:
And ... there’s 89. Mr. Buzzkill.
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I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it.Ivytalk wrote:Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.kalm wrote:
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You are no longer Raul.Ibanez wrote:kalm wrote:
Smart ass implies intelligence......
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And heck.GannonFan wrote:I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it.Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.
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Hell of an O lineman..Ivytalk wrote:Andy Heck.GannonFan wrote:
I get it, I understand it irks people when I'm habitually correct. Darn it.
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Hooooooold on there Babalouie. I didn't say anything about Trump deserving more credit. I'm saying that he has done the things that were needed to be done, but we won't see the results for a while down the road. Of course, we will never be able to compare alternative routes, but I don't see too many economists saying he is doing the wrong things. The only economists complaining are talking about the deficit. Fuck them. Where were they the last 6 years?kalm wrote:JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.Ivytalk wrote: Go back and read Flaggy’s post.
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'.
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I'm devastated! Ivy you told me that I was the one ...Ivytalk wrote:Fair enough.kalm wrote:
JSO suggested that Trump is sustaining momentum. Flaggy thinks Trump deserves more credit.
UNI88 (your favorite moderate) has cautioned in the past against attributing economic conditions too soon.
I agree and I'd say 'we shall see'.
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I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...Ivytalk wrote:Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.kalm wrote:
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Fear not, 88! You’re a solid center-striper!UNI88 wrote:I'm devastated! Ivy you told me that I was the one ...Ivytalk wrote: Fair enough.
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UNI88 wrote:I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.
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With a little more grey at the temples...UNI88 wrote:I picture Ganny looking like Kent from Real Genius ...Ivytalk wrote: Ganny makes sense for awhile, until he goes off on his Mr. Know-it-all, all-but-dissertation-community-college-history-perfesser persona.
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